oil testing/opinions

hidesintrees
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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 11:32am
so i ran out of oil yesterday went to the bike shop and couldnt find the Castrol actevo 10 40 that usually use... so i got the genuine honda stuff for the crf.. now ive heard factory oils are inconsistent and are boughten from whomever sells the most for the cheapest?
QUESTION TO DEBATE:
who swears by what oils and why for the high revving 250f's
i know castrol motorcycle oils are good but are there companys that are great?
im sure this has been asked before...oh well, post up.
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flarider
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5 pages, minimum
Slow ~ Pro
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You know, I really like Torco Oils.

One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three hours into the long event, I wanted to change the oil...I mean it's a 100, and it was working hard. Anyone that has done the six hour knows it works mind, body, and bike.

When I dropped the oil, it spilled on my hand, and it didn't even burn...so if after three hours of screaming a little 100, it was still cool in the cases. I use when I have to pay for oil.

Otherwise I am given Maxima, and it seems to work really well.

(IMO)
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Shell Rotella T - $8 a gallon!
4/3/2008 10:31am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2008 10:32am
SIMX wrote:
Shell Rotella T - $8 a gallon!
x2 if not exxon superflow does well also...

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twizzler
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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
You know, I really like Torco Oils. One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three...
You know, I really like Torco Oils.

One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three hours into the long event, I wanted to change the oil...I mean it's a 100, and it was working hard. Anyone that has done the six hour knows it works mind, body, and bike.

When I dropped the oil, it spilled on my hand, and it didn't even burn...so if after three hours of screaming a little 100, it was still cool in the cases. I use when I have to pay for oil.

Otherwise I am given Maxima, and it seems to work really well.

(IMO)
Please, tell us again how you don't have to pay for stuff---jeezus!
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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
You know, I really like Torco Oils. One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three...
You know, I really like Torco Oils.

One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three hours into the long event, I wanted to change the oil...I mean it's a 100, and it was working hard. Anyone that has done the six hour knows it works mind, body, and bike.

When I dropped the oil, it spilled on my hand, and it didn't even burn...so if after three hours of screaming a little 100, it was still cool in the cases. I use when I have to pay for oil.

Otherwise I am given Maxima, and it seems to work really well.

(IMO)
twizzler wrote:
Please, tell us again how you don't have to pay for stuff---jeezus!

My rider gets everything free!
I'm the poor SOB paying for it all!!!!!!
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4/3/2008 10:35am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2008 10:50am
Any of the motor oils certified for diesel engines, Shell Rotella T and similar have far greater wear requirements than oils formulated for gas autos or motorcycles. You'll save a ton on oil too. 1 gallon of Rottella at Wal mart ,$9.00.

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Motorcycle usage
Though marketed as an engine oil for diesel trucks, Rotella oil has found popularity with motorcyclists as well. The properties of heavy duty engine oils tend to map to the same requirements of motorcycle oils, particularly those whose engine and transmission share the same oil. (This is called a "shared sump" design, which is unlike automobiles which maintain separate oil reservoirs - one for the engine and one for the transmission). The chemical additives found in heavy duty engine oils work well with motorcycles. In addition, the lack of "friction modifiers" in truck oils such as Rotella means they do not interfere with proper wet clutch operations.

Though not yet officially announced by Shell, posts in various motorcycle-related forums cite e-mail confirmation from Shell that Rotella 15W-40 CJ-4 has been tested and shown to meet the JASO-MA friction test. This particular certification is important for motorcycles because of the clutch design which is bathed in the engine oil. This is known as a "wet clutch." Oils that have excessive "friction modifiers" tend to make wet clutches slip. Indication that Rotella T Triple Protection passes the JASO-MA friction test offers one more reason to seriously consider Rotella T for motorcycle use.

Motorcycle specific oils tend to cost between $8 and $10 per quart. Shell Rotella T 15W-40 costs about $10 per gallon (or about $2.50/quart). The price economy of Shell Rotella T allows a motorcycle owner to change oil more frequently, thus matching the "extended change interval" value of motorcycle specific synthetics."





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I run Mobile 1 5w30 but I change my oil after every 2 ride, even if that totals 2hours. I got a schedule, yo.
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4/3/2008 11:01am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:31pm
Slow ~ Pro wrote:
You know, I really like Torco Oils. One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three...
You know, I really like Torco Oils.

One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three hours into the long event, I wanted to change the oil...I mean it's a 100, and it was working hard. Anyone that has done the six hour knows it works mind, body, and bike.

When I dropped the oil, it spilled on my hand, and it didn't even burn...so if after three hours of screaming a little 100, it was still cool in the cases. I use when I have to pay for oil.

Otherwise I am given Maxima, and it seems to work really well.

(IMO)
An XR100 can go just about one million miles before needing an oil change. Yet you felt you needed to change it after 3 hours?


Hell, I'd bet most XR100's out there have never even had an oil change.



Anyways, sorry for the interruption.
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4/3/2008 11:02am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2008 11:03am
Because I am fortunate...I have been around forever, I have friends that support me. I am just lucky. that's all, I didn't mean to step on your toes, I was just stating facts. Anyone that has been around as long as I have probably gets the same treatment, it's called respect !

I always change oil as often as possible, that's why my bikes make it to the end of every race !!!
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Texaco URSA is the lowest ash content oil you can purchase
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oil is oil.
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4/3/2008 11:32am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:31pm
flarider wrote:
5 pages, minimum
wow another brilliant post by flarider.



Motorex has always worked for me, so had Maxima. A decent oil will be fine as long as you change it often.
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4/3/2008 11:54am
Slow ~ Pro wrote:
You know, I really like Torco Oils. One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three...
You know, I really like Torco Oils.

One reason is about in 1999 I raced the Six hour GP Iron Man, on a XR100. About three hours into the long event, I wanted to change the oil...I mean it's a 100, and it was working hard. Anyone that has done the six hour knows it works mind, body, and bike.

When I dropped the oil, it spilled on my hand, and it didn't even burn...so if after three hours of screaming a little 100, it was still cool in the cases. I use when I have to pay for oil.

Otherwise I am given Maxima, and it seems to work really well.

(IMO)
SPYGUY wrote:
An XR100 can go just about one million miles before needing an oil change. Yet you felt you needed to change it after 3 hours? Hell...
An XR100 can go just about one million miles before needing an oil change. Yet you felt you needed to change it after 3 hours?


Hell, I'd bet most XR100's out there have never even had an oil change.



Anyways, sorry for the interruption.
Anyone that races knows that a Hot engine loses power.

New / clean oil, keeps a bike running cooler, and creates better power. When you are racing with 6.7 horse power (XR100) it is best to change it.

People that don't change their oil (XR100 or anything) are the ones that complain when their bikes quit. And then wonder why...

Changing oil is cheap insurance
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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
Because I am fortunate...I have been around forever, I have friends that support me. I am just lucky. that's all, I didn't mean to step on...
Because I am fortunate...I have been around forever, I have friends that support me. I am just lucky. that's all, I didn't mean to step on your toes, I was just stating facts. Anyone that has been around as long as I have probably gets the same treatment, it's called respect !

I always change oil as often as possible, that's why my bikes make it to the end of every race !!!
Since we here are mostly angry motodriver's, you should know that we don't take kindly to people boasting about "free stuff". Just keep that sort of thing to yourself.
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4/3/2008 1:52pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2008 1:59pm
thats interesting my dad uses rotella oil in his f350, im serious will that stuff actually work in a crf, cuz it has separate oil baths, and the manual states that it doesnt need chemical additives? i guess im skeptical. id be all about saving that kind of money!
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100% virgin.

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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
Because I am fortunate...I have been around forever, I have friends that support me. I am just lucky. that's all, I didn't mean to step on...
Because I am fortunate...I have been around forever, I have friends that support me. I am just lucky. that's all, I didn't mean to step on your toes, I was just stating facts. Anyone that has been around as long as I have probably gets the same treatment, it's called respect !

I always change oil as often as possible, that's why my bikes make it to the end of every race !!!
twizzler wrote:
Since we here are mostly angry motodriver's, you should know that we don't take kindly to people boasting about "free stuff". Just keep that sort of...
Since we here are mostly angry motodriver's, you should know that we don't take kindly to people boasting about "free stuff". Just keep that sort of thing to yourself.
I'll choose to speak my mind, about who, and what I want...if Motodrivers are that insecure then tough shit !

I have earned my position, in the industry.
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I must have missed it....

What is your position in the industry?
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Maxima is my choice and i never have problems with my motors.
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Vote for Rotella... high I am new...
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Oil is oil. I've run everything from cheapo generic convenience store oil to the $15/qt motorcycle specific stuff. I've never lost a gear, bearing or crank in any of my bikes during the last 37 years. If you don't run low on oil and change it once in a blue moon, you'll be fine regardless of what's on the label. Just remember to stick with a 10w40 or heavier oil because automotive 10w30 oil has friction modifiers in it that will make your clutch slip.
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4/3/2008 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2008 6:48pm
CamP wrote:
oil is oil.
Ditto.
Change it often and most oils will work just fine. I use Rotella and change it every 2-3 rides.
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Yeah, I'd like to know too.
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What the heck has this place turned in to? A ronron/thumpertalk hybrid?

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