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What is the main differences in setup from C to B to A to pro?
Can a rider grow into their setup? For example, C class rider valving for B setup since he is constantly chasing speed.
I thimk it has to do with 2 things. Comfort and control.
Comfort is dependent on how strong you are on the bike (not gym strong). The stronger you are the firmer setup you can handle. second part to comfort is feel. Some people like a magic carpet ride that feels floaty and some like to feel connected to the ground. Some like a bike with some pop, some like it planted and stable.
Secomd is control. The faster ypu go the firmer ypu need the bike so it doesnt blow through the travel. Rebound can be matched up to spring rates (and thats also going with feel -poppy vs planted).
If the bikes setup for somebody faster (at the same weight) its gonna ride rough untill your hitting stuff at the speed it was setup for. It may not help you get faster, could just make you feel sketchy. Unless you got some good send in you. Then you can probably level up.
Personally - no way I'd buy used suspension tumed for somebody else.unless it was going directly off for a new revalve for me.
Its a fine balance.
C riders also case jumps and over jumps a lot too.
Im more curious as to what the expesnive parts are inside an Akit, maybe a suspension guru can give us the low down. Besides the cost of coatings(1500ish). when you disassemble a stock KYB/Showa fork, and you take apart a kit fork what is the magical part(s) that makes its cost 3500 for a set of forks. I wanna know what that part is that makes it work so much better.
It's personal preference.
Tuner's suggestions are based on their previous experiences (database) combined with assumptions about your preferences based on the details you've shared with them: riding type, bike, weight, age, and skill level. .
You know those clickers on your forks? The valving is like that except it targets specific parts of the stroke, the clicker change effects all of the stroke.
Aside from valving suggestions, you'll also get spring rate and sag recommendation, fresh suspension fluid, and some pro looking fork tube stickers.
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I'd also like to know specifics, but they keep it pretty tight lipped.
I've ridden factory suspension one time and if I cased a jump it would absorb the impact, then reestablish momentum by pushing me forward. It was incredible. In other areas it was super stable, good traction, better than I thought it could be and gave me a whole new perspective.
I don't think it's any one particular part to make the forks work better, rather it's each individual component is optimized for its function.
I believe that comes down to quality of finishes and the tolerances. It’s incredible how smooth the dampening is on cone valves and 6500s while bleeding them compared to showa and kyb. I’ve bleed kyb cartridges that legitimately felt like something was wrong with them. The stiction was terrible
I always ask for things to be more “performance” oriented, which is typically a combination of stiffer springs and the valving set up to ride higher in the stroke. People also call this “more hold up”. I want it to be set up for someone slightly faster than me, so that when I push the bike, it responds better, not worse.
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