What happend to Alessi at M-Ville?

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plowboy 7/19/2010 8:52pm
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Does seem pretty mysterious there Bob. All that talk before the season about "on/off, on/off, on" the Katoom was strange to say the least. Only a few people know the truth and they don't seem to be talkin'. At this point I'm not sure that even if Tony decided to start his own team...that he would trust any motor/suspension builder not to give him 2nd rate stuff. Cryin' shame and waste of talent. It ain't the first and won't be the last sad moto story. Just hope the final chapter hasn't been written. I still like Mike.
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hartebreak 7/19/2010 9:05pm
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Maybe team Alessi is trying to get off the hook on the KTM contract without quitting (officially). Mike is doing worse than people thought but not so horrible where it makes it look like he is washed up. Perhaps Tony is pulling Mikey's strings to make the bike appear to be the issue and hoping that KTM will let Mike go thus having to pay out the remainder of the contract. If Mike just flat out quits, he gets nothing. Right bike/Wrong bike, over training or not, Im not sure what the issue is but Mike just doesnt look like his "win at all costs and never give up" self. He just really seems uninspired. Also he could be seeing Dungey riding basically his old bike saying to himself "I wish I was still there". Im sure by the end of the season or the end of the contract we will hear all about it from KTM and Tony.
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500guy 7/19/2010 9:08pm
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hartebreak wrote:
Maybe team Alessi is trying to get off the hook on the KTM contract without quitting (officially). Mike is doing worse than people thought but not...
Maybe team Alessi is trying to get off the hook on the KTM contract without quitting (officially). Mike is doing worse than people thought but not so horrible where it makes it look like he is washed up. Perhaps Tony is pulling Mikey's strings to make the bike appear to be the issue and hoping that KTM will let Mike go thus having to pay out the remainder of the contract. If Mike just flat out quits, he gets nothing. Right bike/Wrong bike, over training or not, Im not sure what the issue is but Mike just doesnt look like his "win at all costs and never give up" self. He just really seems uninspired. Also he could be seeing Dungey riding basically his old bike saying to himself "I wish I was still there". Im sure by the end of the season or the end of the contract we will hear all about it from KTM and Tony.
I think you are off on the win at all costs and never give up, He is still giving the effort , something is just very wrong.
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MXR 7/19/2010 9:33pm
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The kid is toast if he stays the course .

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Sherwood 7/19/2010 9:54pm
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Sherwood wrote:
Very nice and classy post. On a side note M.A has always been a better big bike rider. Why put him on a smaller bike other...
Very nice and classy post.

On a side note M.A has always been a better big bike rider. Why put him on a smaller bike other than he couldn't find anyone else who wanted to sign him?
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It's mild compared to most of the hateful crap wrapped in piety he spews. But keep fixating, "Sherwood". Because that's always worked out so well for...
It's mild compared to most of the hateful crap wrapped in piety he spews. But keep fixating, "Sherwood". Because that's always worked out so well for you.

On to the bike, I'm inclined to believe that Mike isn't up to par as he's admitted. But I have my doubts about the 350.
I'm a bit confused on what you're implying with you're "fixating" comment considering this is one, if not the only post I have quoted of yours.

You can believe I care and think about you and say things like that but I'm sorry I don't.

Seems the only one with a fixation here is you.
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Crush 7/19/2010 10:18pm
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Big E wrote:
Missing 10 hp???
I doubt that AC is riding a 400... Tye Simmonds is on a 350 here and it'd be a marketing nightmare if it was a 400... Plus why go to all the trouble and say it's a 350 if it is a brand new bike... If it was a 400 just say it was a 400...

Regardless, the bike is winning here and in Europe and Mike won a race already... He's not riding well and it has nothing to do with the engine displacement...
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Sherwood 7/19/2010 10:20pm
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Big E wrote:
Missing 10 hp???
Crush wrote:
I doubt that AC is riding a 400... Tye Simmonds is on a 350 here and it'd be a marketing nightmare if it was a 400...
I doubt that AC is riding a 400... Tye Simmonds is on a 350 here and it'd be a marketing nightmare if it was a 400... Plus why go to all the trouble and say it's a 350 if it is a brand new bike... If it was a 400 just say it was a 400...

Regardless, the bike is winning here and in Europe and Mike won a race already... He's not riding well and it has nothing to do with the engine displacement...
What races has Mike won on it?

Fact is AC has a works bike and they can make it anything they want.
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BobbyM 7/20/2010 7:19am
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Big E wrote:
Missing 10 hp???
Crush wrote:
I doubt that AC is riding a 400... Tye Simmonds is on a 350 here and it'd be a marketing nightmare if it was a 400...
I doubt that AC is riding a 400... Tye Simmonds is on a 350 here and it'd be a marketing nightmare if it was a 400... Plus why go to all the trouble and say it's a 350 if it is a brand new bike... If it was a 400 just say it was a 400...

Regardless, the bike is winning here and in Europe and Mike won a race already... He's not riding well and it has nothing to do with the engine displacement...
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What races has Mike won on it?

Fact is AC has a works bike and they can make it anything they want.
bingo...and it is at least a 400.

maybe all this midpack stuff and finishes will be good for mike, wake him up, he has to hate losing all the time, but man mentally he's been through the ringer. not sure if anybody can help him at this point because he's not helping himself. here's to hope and faith for mike alessi though....
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Grendel 7/20/2010 7:50am
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Nobody likes losing, but Mike Alessi especially doesn't like it. Mike gets a real rough deal here but you rarely see those "not trying hard enough/coasting through the season" threads that seem to find Tedesco and Milsaps so often.
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GrapeApe 7/20/2010 7:57am
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So if AC's on a 400, and MA's on a 350, are the rest on 300's?

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BobbyM 7/20/2010 8:23am
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GrapeApe wrote:
So if AC's on a 400, and MA's on a 350, are the rest on 300's? [img]http://www.racerxonline.com/UserFiles/image/Report-USGP-Cox-2010-004.JPG[/img]
So if AC's on a 400, and MA's on a 350, are the rest on 300's?

the dude with the white hat is on at least a 310
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BobbyM 7/20/2010 8:27am
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Grendel wrote:
Nobody likes losing, but Mike Alessi especially doesn't like it. Mike gets a real rough deal here but you rarely see those "not trying hard enough/coasting...
Nobody likes losing, but Mike Alessi especially doesn't like it. Mike gets a real rough deal here but you rarely see those "not trying hard enough/coasting through the season" threads that seem to find Tedesco and Milsaps so often.
no doubt about that...mike doesn't quit, but not having the best around you and for you is worse than quitting sometimes
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Outsider 7/20/2010 8:55am
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What size was Mike's bike at Hangtown?

Looneytoons I tell ya!
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GrapeApe 7/20/2010 9:16am
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Outsider wrote:
What size was Mike's bike at Hangtown?

Looneytoons I tell ya!
Good question. Luckily we have this nice clear shot of the bike without any other 450's around to block the view. Still hard to tell the engine size, though. I'm going to guess 350.

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Outsider 7/20/2010 9:26am
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Outsider wrote:
What size was Mike's bike at Hangtown?

Looneytoons I tell ya!
GrapeApe wrote:
Good question. Luckily we have this nice clear shot of the bike without any other 450's around to block the view. Still hard to tell the...
Good question. Luckily we have this nice clear shot of the bike without any other 450's around to block the view. Still hard to tell the engine size, though. I'm going to guess 350.

Laughing

Photoshop... never happened!
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Could it be spite towards somebodyDry
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MXR 7/20/2010 6:02pm
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TTT for the HYPE .

Did Camp Alessi sue anybody last weekend ?

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Hawkeye 7/20/2010 6:06pm
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mxb2 wrote:
How many HP was RV missing when he waxed the field at Budds MX of NATIONS?
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a...was he on a pile-o-fucking shit? didn't think so
well, I guess he shouldnt have signed with KTM then... Oh wait, thats about the only one he could I guess.. Hes burned all the other bridges...
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If we would have more journos like Matthes that seems to have the balls to ask the hard questions, maybe we would be forced to this nonsense speculating.

Dunno what the hell is going on, BUT damn impressive that the Alessi hasn't yet officially blamed the bike? WTF? I thought they where complaining a lot previously, but now we here jack. Dunno the reason for that, but that's impressive and cudos to Tony and Mike for that.

Still I haven't heard anything from that camp lately, so maybe this is the calm before the storm?
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MXR 7/20/2010 6:20pm
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The bike was probably ok until someone took the shock apart with a leatherman and ported the head with a butterknife .
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Big E 7/20/2010 9:12pm
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Outsider wrote:
What size was Mike's bike at Hangtown?

Looneytoons I tell ya!
KTM could have made Mikes bike a 449cc motor and it would have still been"legal".

Jus sayin
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BobbyM 7/20/2010 9:20pm
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MXR wrote:
The bike was probably ok until someone took the shock apart with a leatherman and ported the head with a butterknife .
steak knife
couchdriver412 7/20/2010 11:39pm
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I'm not sure but an industry insider Tony was the problem, they said he's crazy...

I don't know though.
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MXR 7/20/2010 11:57pm
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I bet #800 makes the top 15 this Sat. at Washougal . Anybody wanna throw down $5 bucks ??
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Even the Cleverbot knows!

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