MX/SX Photogs...

huck
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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 7:12am
I was wondering...how many pictures do you guys take at a normal SX/MX? Do you actually look at ALL of them after the race?
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3/14/2008 7:30pm
It depends on the race for me. If it is early in the series I take more than at the end. I usually take 700+ per event regardless. I look at every photo and dump the bad ones 5-10% and work from there. It takes 3 hours to shoot and at least that long to review the photos.

MS
3/14/2008 8:49pm
As an example, last weekend I shot about 500 in the pits and practice (only one round of practice), and another 500 during the racing (which was also lower than normal).

I'd guess 1,500 to 2,000 per weekend, and yes, I look at 'em all.
3/14/2008 9:06pm
[quote:ugz1poiy]I'd guess 1,500 to 2,000 per weekend, and yes, I look at 'em all.[/quote:ugz1poiy]

duh....lol
3/14/2008 9:37pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="huck":3mosb6zt]I was wondering...how many pictures do you guys take at a normal SX/MX? Do you actually look at ALL of them after the race?[/quote:3mosb6zt]
I'm surprised this question wasn't put into the dumbgeon. No they just trust the shoots they took without looking at them (thick sarcasm accent.)

The Shop

3/14/2008 9:40pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
Tape the shutter button down and swing it around over your head for 3 hours and see what come from that! Pure photo genius. <img class= " title="Laughing">
3/15/2008 12:08am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
Aw, c'mon...not all of us shoot like that. <img class= " title="Smile">
3/15/2008 5:09am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="Todder":omgln1hi]Tape the shutter button down and swing it around over your head for 3 hours and see what come from that! Pure photo genius. <img class= " title="Laughing">[/quote:omgln1hi]


C'mon now, leave TFS out of this.
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3/15/2008 5:35am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
I shot about 1600 at Unadilla last year, but ALOT of sequences and duplicates. I edit that down to about 200 that Ill actually correct and process.

Im itching to shoot more MX this year, but track access is so important. Having to shoot from the outside fence sucks, dealing with the crowd and not being able to move quickly.

Need to find a mentor to second shoot under for nationals 8)
Rupert X
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3/15/2008 6:28am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
http://www.amamotocross.com/article.php ... TlCPMqGxHx


As the world's TOP-RANKED moto-photographer (independently judged by a panel of my drunken peers,

many who refuse to acknowledge my existence...) I will often shoot upwards of 250 pics on any

given weekend. Usually, 200 or so are just terrible blurs of dirt-bikes, skirts and beer,

occasionally I'll get thirty in focus and they'll just be roost or sections of bike-less track.

Once in a blue-moon, I'll screw up and get the shot of the century - like that pic of

Erin Bates looking sultry, steamy and seducing my D-50 At Redd Buuuuuuuuuudddddd !!!
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3/15/2008 8:28am
I shoot about 600 shots durring the weekend. Then again, I'm shooting the butlerbrothers mx team primarily.
From that I choose 50 or so for the website.
3/15/2008 1:45pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
200 pics of Monster chics
200 more of 30-second hottie's ass.

20 of TV cameraman's ass on podium, because they won't get them off there, not as cute as Monster chic and usually covers more signage.

10 fun picks of LN guys shoving the other photohounds around. "move!" "I did." "Well move more then." If you go to an SX and get bored, watch for these, happens every time.
3/15/2008 2:45pm
It depends on the event.
I do other stuff that most of the other photogs don't do.
If I have some stuff to shoot on fridays it is usually 400 images. If its a mini bike event too then that adds about 250 images.
On saturday and sunday its between 600 and 1000 images each day.
So a normal weekend is 1200 to 1500 images and a high event would be around 2500 to 2750 images.

Yes I have to look at each image and narrow down the ones I send out to 300 or less.
Loads of fun.. Sunday nights are a bitch.
I usually have 4 to 5 galleries to do for clients plus one huge gallery that goes out to several clients. All of them expect to see images by noon on Monday at the latest. Some want them first thing in the morning on Monday. I have also lost several photo sales by as little as 15 minutes. Its that competitive.

Its a real job and requires a lot of hours of work. Its not as glamorous as some of you think it is.
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3/15/2008 6:38pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="Homey":rj04toku]It depends on the event.
I do other stuff that most of the other photogs don't do.
If I have some stuff to shoot on fridays it is usually 400 images. If its a mini bike event too then that adds about 250 images.
On saturday and sunday its between 600 and 1000 images each day.
So a normal weekend is 1200 to 1500 images and a high event would be around 2500 to 2750 images.

Yes I have to look at each image and narrow down the ones I send out to 300 or less.
Loads of fun.. Sunday nights are a bitch.
I usually have 4 to 5 galleries to do for clients plus one huge gallery that goes out to several clients. All of them expect to see images by noon on Monday at the latest. Some want them first thing in the morning on Monday. I have also lost several photo sales by as little as 15 minutes. Its that competitive.

Its a real job and requires a lot of hours of work. Its not as glamorous as some of you think it is.[/quote:rj04toku]

Cool, thanks. I figured that you guys looked at EVERY photo, I just didn't know how you'd narrow them from 1000+ to a couple hundred that you send out.

I can't imagine doing all this before digital and photoshop!!!!
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3/15/2008 6:42pm
Did any of you shoot WAY back (sarcasm) in the days of c-41 process color film? Digital has made it easier and affordable, eh?
I used to shoot a roll of film and give it to Motomom for $25. Paid for racing...
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3/15/2008 6:53pm
With the 8gig chip I have for the D200, I can take ALOT. Honestly never filled it up yet.
3/16/2008 4:38am
I learned during the days of slide film and black and white (remember [i:2fj0mnvs]that[/i:2fj0mnvs]? Back then it wasn't uncommon to shoot 30-40 rolls a weekend.

I still have boxes of slide sheets of mountain bike and BMX racing, even after throwing away (approximately) 20,000 slides a while back. I don't miss the film days.
3/16/2008 5:39am
I missed the drawn-out debates on why digital will never replace film.

I miss editors telling me digital can't print, but other pubs were printing digi that looked better than anything in their mag!

Digi-to-print went through three phases, when Hoppen switched, when Buckley switched, and when Cudby switched. Those three switching made editors realize that they were the holdup and not the cameras or digi pics.

Those were frustrating days. It was like you had a podium bike and rider, but you couldn't race because your rider's name is Mars, and someone starts a rumor that he's a Martian and that's not in the rules. It got about that stupid with some of those editors/art people.
3/16/2008 7:13am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
I've actually been going old school as of late and resting my digi cam. I've been shooting with an old school Minolta camera in black and white for a college photo class. I'll have to throw up some moto pics with that thing when I get a chance. I'll blow you all away. <img class= " title="Laughing">
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3/16/2008 7:23am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="FlakJak104":2cshpk1p]I've actually been going old school as of late and resting my digi cam. I've been shooting with an old school Minolta camera in black and white for a college photo class. I'll have to throw up some moto pics with that thing when I get a chance. I'll blow you all away. <img class= " title="Laughing">[/quote:2cshpk1p]

Lucky you, last semester at school I wasn't able to use any moto worthy photo equipment. Stuck on 4"x5" view cameras (film and betterlight scanning back) pretty much the whole time. Really makes you appriciate technology of todays cameras when it takes 30 minutes to set up the camera and the exposure time (with the scanning back) is 10+minutes. It was a great relief to know this semester I can use whatever format I want..of course, little format digital.
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3/16/2008 10:29am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
When I went to photo school we learned on 4x5's, medium format 120s (Bronica, Hasselblad) and of course 35mm. We spent endless hours rolling film on spools shaking, agitating B & W, E-6 (Ektachrome slides), and c-41 color film, plus manual printing and enlarging.

It really made us appreciate and understand this new thing called a one-hour lab and computer processing. <img class= " title="Wink">

Then came digital and it all changed. I'd say for the better. Who wants to walk around with 20 bricks of film in their back pack? I can't imagine the cost of getting all that film processed. :shock: Plus photogs today can check out their shots immediately.
3/16/2008 10:33am
Around 1000 pics in a GP weekend and yes I check all of them.
3/16/2008 1:27pm
I would say easily 400-500 per moto.. Less at the local events..
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3/16/2008 1:33pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="guyb":3hbuv61n]I learned during the days of slide film and black and white (remember [i:3hbuv61n]that[/i:3hbuv61n]? Back then it wasn't uncommon to shoot 30-40 rolls a weekend.

I still have boxes of slide sheets of mountain bike and BMX racing, even after throwing away (approximately) 20,000 slides a while back. I don't miss the film days.[/quote:3hbuv61n]

You really should get an archive of the older BMX stuff you did. I'd pay to get that one up and running. There's a good demand for a lot of the more obscure BMX pics and history.

If you have any of them on hd...please share! <img class= " title="Laughing">
3/16/2008 2:34pm
Actually, an old BMX editorial cohort of mine tagged me with an e-mail last week talking about doing a book on old school BMX and freestyle. Guess I need to dig and see what's left in the archives.
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3/16/2008 2:43pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="volcati":12qkl6wr][quote="guyb":12qkl6wr]I learned during the days of slide film and black and white (remember [i:12qkl6wr]that[/i:12qkl6wr]? Back then it wasn't uncommon to shoot 30-40 rolls a weekend.

I still have boxes of slide sheets of mountain bike and BMX racing, even after throwing away (approximately) 20,000 slides a while back. I don't miss the film days.[/quote:12qkl6wr]

You really should get an archive of the older BMX stuff you did. I'd pay to get that one up and running. There's a good demand for a lot of the more obscure BMX pics and history.

If you have any of them on hd...please share! <img class= " title="Laughing">[/quote:12qkl6wr]
+1
That would rock!
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3/16/2008 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="guyb":1w43eg38]Actually, an old BMX editorial cohort of mine tagged me with an e-mail last week talking about doing a book on old school BMX and freestyle. Guess I need to dig and see what's left in the archives.[/quote:1w43eg38]


That would be very cool if you consider it and it's done right. I could see a very cool hard cover coffee-table book of photo's and history--like RacerX put out on MX several years back. And if you got a foreword from Spike all the better! Of course I don't know if it would sell...but make it right with some gimmick and make the first 500 or 1000 collector items ($$Book) to pay for everything. Then go paper and it's all dessert and pride.

Obviously if you need any help with research, history, or looking up old riders...I'd be happy to do some grunt work for free on something like that! haha
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3/16/2008 6:43pm
About 250-300. But normally I don't shoot the race. If I could get on the floor I would, but I just can't seem to stand in front of people during the race. I wouldn't want someone doing that to me, so I don't do it.
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3/17/2008 2:19am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
I must be the only one who still misses E-6

Digital is definitely faster, more cost effective and outresolves E-6 Drum scans in matters of detail but for the tactile feel of a slide held up to a loupe - Slides win the relationship aspect between photographer and their product.

Looking at a screen is nice, but the way you felt when you saw a splash of color on a light table and you pick up the slide and hold the loupe to it was so much fun - my back used to ache and my feet would swell up from standing over my old light table for hours and hours. Often times i wouldnt even eat because i was so enthralled in looking at the slides - Velvia had so much pop when you nailed an exposure and saw the magnified slide through your loupe.

Back then 99 - 2004 i would shoot 30-40 rolls on a national weekend ( i still have all of them in my office - 10's of thousands of slides ) for SX i would shoot 20-30 rolls - I think the average cost of film and the processing was about 500 bucks per weekend ( not including expenses to get to an event / gas / hotel / food etc )

I remember the trick was seeing how fast you could change a roll of film without missing some shots - i would look at my counter and make sure i would miss a few riders if i knew Ricky or James or any of the top 10 guys were coming and i was at the last 3 or 4 shots on my roll - there was so much going on, you had to really be on your game.

Then there was that whole "knowing how to get a correct exposure without the ability to chimp" thing. metering was a slightly different ballgame back then, compared to how it is now. even though the same principle applies.

Nowadays i shoot about 600-800 images - probly closer to an 800 image average. look at em all - twice - at least lol

Thanks for the trip down memory lane <img class= " title="Wink">
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3/17/2008 6:19am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
Do you guys shot in "raw" format?

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