Past Loretta Lynn’s Champion in jail - Good riddance.

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4/18/2010 12:19am
A friend of mine who works at a prison says sex crimes are incurable. Studies have shown over and over that the offender will commit crimes whenever they have the chance regardless of punishment. If they get out of prison it is usually a matter of months before they are doing it again.

The only way to deal with them is to permanently eliminate them from society after the first offense.

4/18/2010 4:09am
That is very tough to hear, and I've never even met you You should know you're an incredible father though, for sticking behind your son like...
That is very tough to hear, and I've never even met you Sad You should know you're an incredible father though, for sticking behind your son like you have. Keep doing what you're doing, you know what's best. Its pretty tough to hear the other side to all this. All you see on this news are the perpetrator, but you rarely hear about the consequences of their actions. Also, I encourage you to become a victim's rights advocate or therapist, for real! The ones who have lived it, are often the best at helping those who are living it at the moment.
I'm the Mother! And thank you so very much for that. Yep, I think my path in life is becoming much clearer through all of this.
4/18/2010 4:21am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:12pm
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My wife was a victim of a man close to the family that fondled her when she was 9. At the time it was like a...
My wife was a victim of a man close to the family that fondled her when she was 9. At the time it was like a dirty secret "it won't happen again" This guy was a close friend of her grandmothers, she swept it under the rug. Her cousins thought she making it up so she kept it quiet. My FIL would most likely have beat him to death so he was kept out of it. So in the middle 60's this kind of thing was a misdemeanor. She had a few issues that she was finally able to over come, mostly I think from not feeling protected after it happened but she has it all behind her and used it as a lesson in protecting our kids coming up.
My former brother in law is a 2x registered sex offender that has my sister and nephew totally f'ed in the head due to his controlling and manipulating for 20 years. I also got the creeps because he seemed to be especially interested in 1 of my 3 sons for a while. I can't begin to describe the mental damage he has done. Warning to people in Houston to Galveston area, that where we think he is. He ran like the coward he is when a top notch divorce lawyer gutted him in court. He should be on the RSO site for the state of Texas.
I went to jury duty a couple weeks ago and my reaction when the charges were read and the scumbag appeared were very physical. I had a full on fight or flight reaction. I asked to be excused because I new I would be prejudiced. I should have stayed on and made sure that he was convicted.
The gist of this rant is how badly I feel for all victims of these scum and why. It has been scarily close to home.
I know lots of people think California if F'ed up but there is a strong 1 strike movement for violent sex offenders. I hope we can vote on it in November.
I wish all victims my sincere hope they find the peace in their lives that was taken from them.
Yes, those dirty little secrets need to be revealed. No, it is not a comfortable subject to talk about, it's downright disturbing but the stigma seems to be more often than not, on the VICTIM. I know my son was hammered on the stand about drinking what was provided for him. He was 13 years old! Make it all the "victims" fault. Such a sack of sh&^!
I'am glad that your wife survived. I have a few rug sweepers in my family, too. I understand. The physical can and will heal, it's the mental torture that lasts and lasts. I'm so sorry for every sexually abused victim out there. From the bottom of my heart, I wish I could make it better. I plan on changing some laws, I don't know how but I know what I want changed.
4/18/2010 8:38am
Mack says,( I hear) that he has 30 some motocross friends that will stand up for him in court. I'll let you know when I stop laughing. Maybe he is attempting to pay them to speak for him like he did with me. Oh yes, I have the transcripts of how he was planning on paying me off to drop the charges. I'm not making accusations, I have PROOF. Like I said, you guys just don't know the half of it. But our case is over and I can talk about anything I want. And I have a lot to say............... I'm just waiting for a certain lady to come cruising through these boards. I'm waiting for you T. come on, lets talk. You've been brainwashed honeybun. Wake up and smell the Big Mac(k).

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4/19/2010 11:43am
Mack says,( I hear) that he has 30 some motocross friends that will stand up for him in court. I'll let you know when I stop...
Mack says,( I hear) that he has 30 some motocross friends that will stand up for him in court. I'll let you know when I stop laughing. Maybe he is attempting to pay them to speak for him like he did with me. Oh yes, I have the transcripts of how he was planning on paying me off to drop the charges. I'm not making accusations, I have PROOF. Like I said, you guys just don't know the half of it. But our case is over and I can talk about anything I want. And I have a lot to say............... I'm just waiting for a certain lady to come cruising through these boards. I'm waiting for you T. come on, lets talk. You've been brainwashed honeybun. Wake up and smell the Big Mac(k).
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4/19/2010 12:15pm
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If this happened to one of my kids. The guy would be dead and I would be a hero in prison. You are a calmer person...
If this happened to one of my kids. The guy would be dead and I would be a hero in prison.

You are a calmer person than me pulled it.
I agree 100%
4/19/2010 12:17pm
Mack says,( I hear) that he has 30 some motocross friends that will stand up for him in court. I'll let you know when I stop...
Mack says,( I hear) that he has 30 some motocross friends that will stand up for him in court. I'll let you know when I stop laughing. Maybe he is attempting to pay them to speak for him like he did with me. Oh yes, I have the transcripts of how he was planning on paying me off to drop the charges. I'm not making accusations, I have PROOF. Like I said, you guys just don't know the half of it. But our case is over and I can talk about anything I want. And I have a lot to say............... I'm just waiting for a certain lady to come cruising through these boards. I'm waiting for you T. come on, lets talk. You've been brainwashed honeybun. Wake up and smell the Big Mac(k).
Blake wrote:
"T"????
Yeah, someone made reference to her child on here, thats all I'm saying.
4/19/2010 12:20pm
oshow wrote:
I agree 100%
Well, I have more than one child and I do have a duty as a parent to be around for them.........can't do much as a parent if I'm behind bars, right? But I totally get where you are coming from. I'm thinking a little Shawshank Redemption is in order. Heard he got his a@# beat in jail by three guys. Don't know how true that is but from what I heard he admitted why he was there. Didn't go over too well, apparently.
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4/19/2010 1:08pm
oshow wrote:
I agree 100%
Well, I have more than one child and I do have a duty as a parent to be around for them.........can't do much as a parent...
Well, I have more than one child and I do have a duty as a parent to be around for them.........can't do much as a parent if I'm behind bars, right? But I totally get where you are coming from. I'm thinking a little Shawshank Redemption is in order. Heard he got his a@# beat in jail by three guys. Don't know how true that is but from what I heard he admitted why he was there. Didn't go over too well, apparently.
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Like others here this just makes me so sick. I feel angry and nauseous at the same time. Dirty little secrets. My wife from the time of 9 -16 years old was screamed at every few days by her step-dad for hours at a time. She was repeatedly told she was ugly, fat and that no man would ever love her. . She was screamed at with hatred for so long face to face, that she would have to towel the spit off her face. She was actualy a stunningly pretty swimmer. Her mom thought God would take care of it and never did anything. The step-dad later anounced he was gay. The few times in our 20 years together that I have raised my voice, she goes in a blank daze, no one home.

You have tons of courage! I cannot imagine the pain you and your family have endured. My wife is a total wreck when anyone starts yelling. Though she was not molested and her abuse does not compare to a child who is molested I am very tempted to really damage this man everytime I see him. Molesters should be castrated or left in general population. Thank you for being so open on of all places a mx forum.

4/19/2010 4:51pm
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pulleditoutofahateh Like others here this just makes me so sick. I feel angry and nauseous at the same time. Dirty little secrets. My wife from the...
pulleditoutofahateh

Like others here this just makes me so sick. I feel angry and nauseous at the same time. Dirty little secrets. My wife from the time of 9 -16 years old was screamed at every few days by her step-dad for hours at a time. She was repeatedly told she was ugly, fat and that no man would ever love her. . She was screamed at with hatred for so long face to face, that she would have to towel the spit off her face. She was actualy a stunningly pretty swimmer. Her mom thought God would take care of it and never did anything. The step-dad later anounced he was gay. The few times in our 20 years together that I have raised my voice, she goes in a blank daze, no one home.

You have tons of courage! I cannot imagine the pain you and your family have endured. My wife is a total wreck when anyone starts yelling. Though she was not molested and her abuse does not compare to a child who is molested I am very tempted to really damage this man everytime I see him. Molesters should be castrated or left in general population. Thank you for being so open on of all places a mx forum.

Post traumatic stress is post traumatic stress, ya know? ANY event so heinous, actually effects (or is affects?) a part of the brain. Your wife is lucky to have a guy who has only raised his voice a couple times.......what a compassionate individual you are. Tell her to read the David Peltzer books, if she can stomach them. I applaud survivors everywhere. It's so hard to go on. I'm not courageous, I'm MAD AS HELL and I'm NOT going to take it!!!!!!!! Not one more child will be hurt by this man. I was the one who called the cops and reported where he was the day he was arrested and I sat on the side of the road and MADE sure he was in the back of that car. I won't back down. You hurt my kid. Scratch that, you hurt my KIDS! His kid and mine (a different child then the victim) are best friends. His kid stays with us all the time. And I take care of him the way a parent is SUPPOSED to. The kid is known around here as my fourth kid, lol. It does make life stressful though. Cuz a parent is a parent, no matter what they've done, especially when you can't digest the fact that your father is turning out to be a monster. So much for a child to endure. The shame of their father, so very sad. I pray for Mack everyday. How to forgive?
4/20/2010 7:23am
I have had an update from a reliable source. There is investigations in Michigan, Canada, Ohio, Texas and Arizona. I'am also posting on Matt Crown racing forums as well as a Texas motocross forum. Same screen name. If anyone knows any Arizona forums, let me know. Get the story out there. Thank you.
5/23/2010 4:22am
He did not take a plea and will take it to a trial. Trial is scheduled for July. So sorry that innocent people have to go through this.

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5/23/2010 5:58am
I am sorry this asshole wont admit wrong doing.
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5/23/2010 8:09am
ehr400 wrote:
I am sorry this asshole wont admit wrong doing.
In their twisted minds, they don't believe they've done anything wrong. I worked with a convicted diddler who continued to work his way into families and situations where he could take advantage.

He still maintained his membership in the "Man/Boy Love" organization which is some kind of worldwide group that denies there is anything wrong with what they do.

They do not hide from their beliefs. They simply don't believe there is anything wrong with it. (there is something wrong in the way these people are wired).

Good luck with everything.
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5/23/2010 8:53am
I have had an update from a reliable source. There is investigations in Michigan, Canada, Ohio, Texas and Arizona. I'am also posting on Matt Crown racing...
I have had an update from a reliable source. There is investigations in Michigan, Canada, Ohio, Texas and Arizona. I'am also posting on Matt Crown racing forums as well as a Texas motocross forum. Same screen name. If anyone knows any Arizona forums, let me know. Get the story out there. Thank you.
the Arizona board is gomxracing.com
5/23/2010 6:48pm
I'm so f'ing angry right now I think I might just burst. I'm going to start writing him a letter a day. Just a line or two..........let him never forget who I'am......................

Yeah asshole, that was me at the courthouse. You molest my kid and than can't even fucking remember what I look like? Too busy checkin out my boy you twisted piece of shit.

btw, the kids game was great.......shoulda been there. Still hoping that ponytail your sporting comes in handy in the prison shower. I hate you. I want to see the look of horror on your face when they sentence you to PRISON. Maybe it will be just a wink of the horror you've put my child thru. Again, hate you.

Guess I should start buying stamps and envelopes now.

I hate your freaking guts. I have to forgive you someday. It isn't going to be today.....tomorrow isn't looking promising either. I still pray for mercy on your sick and twisted soul.

Right now, I'm the one needing the mercy.......mercy to stop hating.........omg help this family and all the other families.......please.

5/23/2010 6:49pm
Seems like nothing shocks or surprises me any more in this world http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/video?id=7326381 TUSCOLA COUNTY (WJRT) -- (03/11/10)--A Motorcross enthusiast is in a Tuscola County Jail...
Seems like nothing shocks or surprises me any more in this world

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/video?id=7326381

TUSCOLA COUNTY (WJRT) -- (03/11/10)--A Motorcross enthusiast is in a Tuscola County Jail on a parole violation. But there's more to the story.

Police are collecting evidence in a criminal sexual conduct investigation that spreads across the country and even into Canada.

They even found one potential victim in the same jail cell with the man whose accused of the crimes.

David Mack, 49, was first charged with criminal sexual conduct, but pleaded guilty to child abuse.

Investigators are now talking to three other victims, two of which have ties to the Motorcross world.

"We understand he interacted with a number of teenage boys in Motorcross," said Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark Reene.

Mack pleaded guilty to child abuse in 2008.

"(It) involved a 13-year-old victim," Reene said. "He had actually provided intoxicating beverages to the victim, and committed acts of molestation hereafter."

Reene says Mack spent a year in jail but violated his parole last month when he failed to get sex offender treatment. When Mack was put in his jail cell, Reene says something unusual happened.

"One of the strangest things that we've experienced," he said. "While he is being lodged in the cell, somebody that is already there identifies him as a person that molested him previously."

A corrections officer was called in and the two men were separated. Two more alleged victims are talking to police in Lapeer and Canada, claiming Mack molested them.

At least two of the victims met Mack through Motorcross activity.

"He worked with the motorcycles, showing the boys how to ride, acting as a mechanic, that sort of thing," Reene said.

A family member of the first boy Mack was convicted of molesting worries about other victims.

"Kids there, they can't defend themselves," the family member said. "They need someone to defend them, and I'm going to try to do that as best I can."

Reene is asking anyone with information that might be helpful in this investigation to give the Michigan State Police in Lapeer a phone call.


(Copyright ©2010 WJRT-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)
Sex offenders, as in chronic peds should have it tatted on their forehead in RED.
5/23/2010 7:00pm
Wanna hear a good one? Seems upon release, was issued a state food card. Not supporting kids but has a food card. Anyone as outraged as I'am? Of course not, you aren't me. I'm pissed enough for everyone.


Someone please explain the justice here? Anyone? Where is OUR justice? And just how long is this going to legally be drug out so he can avoid prison? Adjournments, postponements, illnesses............been there, done that. WHEN is it OUR turn?



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5/23/2010 7:07pm
Who is this guy? Did he just race at one time or did he work in the industry also?
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5/23/2010 7:07pm
Aren't we "motorcyclists"?

Once his sorry ass comes to roost an an institution "somewhere", we should attempt to connect with some of our motorcycling brethern within the walls and encourage them to have a little "chat" with this asshole?

That is not outside the realm of possibility.
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5/23/2010 7:37pm
Casemark wrote:
Who is this guy? Did he just race at one time or did he work in the industry also?
He's raced for years
Won a LL's title once or twice in Vet classes
5/24/2010 4:37am
Is racing a motocross bike good stress relief cuz I may just take up roaring over dirt.......just for the hell of it. You guys will help me by putting training wheels on the back, right?! Seriously, some of you that support my family...... I owe a great debit of gratitude to. Sure would like to see some races. The screaming of the bikes will go along well with the screaming of injustice going on inside my brain.
5/24/2010 4:46am
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Aren't we "motorcyclists"? Once his sorry ass comes to roost an an institution "somewhere", we should attempt to connect with some of our motorcycling brethern within...
Aren't we "motorcyclists"?

Once his sorry ass comes to roost an an institution "somewhere", we should attempt to connect with some of our motorcycling brethern within the walls and encourage them to have a little "chat" with this asshole?

That is not outside the realm of possibility.
That knowledge alone has kept me on the straight and narrow path my entire life. How someone would make the CHOICE to put themselves in that kind of torture (prison/s.o) is mind-boggling.

Shawshank Redemption was enough to scare me into being good and following the law, morally and ethically.

I don't want to think about the "act" of him being attacked that way as much as I want to think about the anxiety "knowing" that is a possibility, how THAT is effecting him.

It won't ever be to the degree, in my opinion of the hell my victim has suffered. And me......the hell I continue to suffer on a daily basis. Making sure justice, legal justice is served. You may get me down, but I will NOT give up. If I die trying, I'll go down fighting. Just make sure my headstone reads "I TRIED"

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5/24/2010 5:06am
So, pulled it, Mack is out on bail while the system slowly turns it's wheels? What state is he being prosecuted in? I'd be going nuts knowing that my kid's molester was out tooling around...
5/24/2010 6:55am
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So, pulled it, Mack is out on bail while the system slowly turns it's wheels? What state is he being prosecuted in? I'd be going nuts...
So, pulled it, Mack is out on bail while the system slowly turns it's wheels? What state is he being prosecuted in? I'd be going nuts knowing that my kid's molester was out tooling around...
Michigan.....as the rats leave the sinking ship..........


He is in jail on two prob. violations on our case. It has been adjourned now, three times since he was re-arrested in February. To be clear, 9 days after being released from jail and then broke it again, allegedly 11 days after being released from jail. Everything is alleged until proven. He is a proven and registered sexual offender in our case, plead to child abuse with 5 years prob and a list a mile long of restrictions.

Now there is a new charge in the same county as well as charges in a neighboring county.


He hasn't even answered to the prob viol. on our case that is three years old.....so the state in essence has to find out if he DID violate prob. organize a trial, if he gets sentenced to prison, transport him back and forth to answer to any old or new charges. Are you seeing the bullshit here? The taxpayers are footing the bill for a registered sex offender and nobody is pissed off.

But people look funny at me because I have food card because I'am disabled. Where the fuck is humanity and justice?



I have a new saying. "What doesn't kill me, makes me crazier"
5/24/2010 6:57am
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In their twisted minds, they don't believe they've done anything wrong. I worked with a convicted diddler who continued to work his way into families and...
In their twisted minds, they don't believe they've done anything wrong. I worked with a convicted diddler who continued to work his way into families and situations where he could take advantage.

He still maintained his membership in the "Man/Boy Love" organization which is some kind of worldwide group that denies there is anything wrong with what they do.

They do not hide from their beliefs. They simply don't believe there is anything wrong with it. (there is something wrong in the way these people are wired).

Good luck with everything.
Thank you
6/24/2010 3:50pm
It's official. The son of a bitch wouldn't take a plea. New kids trial as well as my kids probation violation goes to a jury trial is July 13th and my kid has to fng testify as does the other one. I take it back, I HATE this man. I can't wait for the door of the prison to slam shut behind him. I'am literally living for the day.

Taking his chances with a jury..........wonder how that'll work out for him............

6/24/2010 4:06pm
This fucker needs to go to jail.... There's no way a jury would vote in his favor...
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6/24/2010 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2010 4:13pm
It's official. The son of a bitch wouldn't take a plea. New kids trial as well as my kids probation violation goes to a jury trial...
It's official. The son of a bitch wouldn't take a plea. New kids trial as well as my kids probation violation goes to a jury trial is July 13th and my kid has to fng testify as does the other one. I take it back, I HATE this man. I can't wait for the door of the prison to slam shut behind him. I'am literally living for the day.

Taking his chances with a jury..........wonder how that'll work out for him............

When they come back with a guilty verdict hopefully the time he gets will 10x's the time they offered him in a plea.
Honestly man, I do not think that the state should even try to make deals/bargain with pedo's...
Prosecute them,tri them and fry them!!!
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6/24/2010 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 6/27/2010 8:40am
Dave Mack is a disgusting pedo.



i'm from MI and remember him at the tracks. he used to mentor **victims name edited out** who dropped off the map after winning a few LL titles.



I knew *edited*, and after years he admited to funny business with that fuck. Shit, that's been 16-17 years ago.....

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