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No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am...

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am of some random illegal

Gotcha.

 

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Interesting If I’m reading this correctly, your thoughts are, if you can prevent a crime and choose not to, and actually even allow it, you’re guilty also...

Interesting 


If I’m reading this correctly, your thoughts are, if you can prevent a crime and choose not to, and actually even allow it, you’re guilty also? If they could stop just 1 rape, by not allowing illegals into the country, it would be worth it?


care to explain your thoughts on gun control?

LungButter wrote:
Bro, get a grip, you are saying that you are ok with illegals raping women because the number is lower than the rapes committed by legal...

Bro, get a grip, you are saying that you are ok with illegals raping women because the number is lower than the rapes committed by legal citizens.....all so you can keep your allegiance to a political party.

I hope you don't have a wife or a daughter, nobody deserves to be with a man that is ok with them getting raped.

 

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am...

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am of some random illegal

why are you not worried about both?

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LungButter wrote:
Bro, get a grip, you are saying that you are ok with illegals raping women because the number is lower than the rapes committed by legal...

Bro, get a grip, you are saying that you are ok with illegals raping women because the number is lower than the rapes committed by legal citizens.....all so you can keep your allegiance to a political party.

I hope you don't have a wife or a daughter, nobody deserves to be with a man that is ok with them getting raped.

 

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am...

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am of some random illegal

ToolMaker wrote:

why are you not worried about both?

Because it’s a 99/1 ratio

Same reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door at home, but not at my grandparents land with no neighbors.

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No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am...

No buddy, I’m saying I’m more worried about my daughter going to college, or having a boyfriend, or staying at a friends house, than I am of some random illegal

ToolMaker wrote:

why are you not worried about both?

Because it’s a 99/1 ratioSame reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door...

Because it’s a 99/1 ratio

Same reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door at home, but not at my grandparents land with no neighbors.

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

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ToolMaker wrote:
Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in...

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

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How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy, they let you when your famous' and pays off porn actresses to keep quiet after having cheated on his wife who was at home with his newborn son?

 

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ToolMaker wrote:
Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in...

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

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indy_maico wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy, they let you when your famous' and pays off porn actresses to keep quiet after having cheated on his wife who was at home with his newborn son?

 

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10/18/2024 5:23am Edited Date/Time 10/18/2024 5:24am
ToolMaker wrote:

why are you not worried about both?

Because it’s a 99/1 ratioSame reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door...

Because it’s a 99/1 ratio

Same reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door at home, but not at my grandparents land with no neighbors.

ToolMaker wrote:
Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in...

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

Deplorable

Absolutely no where did I say it was okay.


My feeling is that it is disingenuous to call out illegal immigrants, when domestically the threat is much larger.


When you say you teach your daughters about the danger in dark areas, I can flip this on you and say, interesting that you only teach her the dangers of dark areas, when in reality, YOU should be teaching her the dangers of YOUR male family members. You should be teaching her the dangers of staying at a friends house. You should be teaching her the dangers of excessive drinking in college. You should be teaching her the dangers of that first high school crush that doesn’t understand what no means. You taught her to be on the lookout for the minority of the situation and not the majority. 
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See how that works? 

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BMR179 wrote:

One way to reduce rape cases in the US is to not allow illegal immigrants into the US.

indy_maico wrote:

Another way would be to deport trump, brett kavanaugh, and matt gaetz.

I will have to disagree with you on that, as the folks that you mentioned are not eligible for deportation.     

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Zycki11 wrote:

If DJT wants to be a fucking comedian then he should go throw his name in hat at a comedy club. We need a god damned leader. I’ll vote for the egomaniac again but holy fuck. Shut up and talk policy. Sure the insults are funny but so is akillerwombat. 

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Zycki11 wrote:
mvd61 wrote:
If DJT wants to be a fucking comedian then he should go throw his name in hat at a comedy club. We need a god damned...

If DJT wants to be a fucking comedian then he should go throw his name in hat at a comedy club. We need a god damned leader. I’ll vote for the egomaniac again but holy fuck. Shut up and talk policy. Sure the insults are funny but so is akillerwombat. 

That was the point of the Al Smith dinner. It is a comedy roast on politicians. Has happened for years. One person showed up, the other did a “skit via tv”

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Zycki11 wrote:
mvd61 wrote:
If DJT wants to be a fucking comedian then he should go throw his name in hat at a comedy club. We need a god damned...

If DJT wants to be a fucking comedian then he should go throw his name in hat at a comedy club. We need a god damned leader. I’ll vote for the egomaniac again but holy fuck. Shut up and talk policy. Sure the insults are funny but so is akillerwombat. 

Zycki11 wrote:
That was the point of the Al Smith dinner. It is a comedy roast on politicians. Has happened for years. One person showed up, the other...

That was the point of the Al Smith dinner. It is a comedy roast on politicians. Has happened for years. One person showed up, the other did a “skit via tv”

Regardless what the dinner was for he does this shit all day every day. It’s getting old and over played. I can’t stand Obama but maybe Don could take a page from his book and not be a condescending smart mouthed dickhead every time he has the chance. I can’t be the only right winger that is sick of Don’s mouth. Have some dignity. If he manages to lose this election it will be 100% on him and I hope he goes the fuck away. Last chance Don. Don’t piss this opportunity down your leg. 

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indy_maico wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy, they let you when your famous' and pays off porn actresses to keep quiet after having cheated on his wife who was at home with his newborn son?

 

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for a woman who fucked married men to get promotions?

Or are you trying to teach your daughter that it's ok to fuck her way to the top?

 

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10/18/2024 8:30am Edited Date/Time 10/18/2024 8:31am
indy_maico wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy, they let you when your famous' and pays off porn actresses to keep quiet after having cheated on his wife who was at home with his newborn son?

 

LungButter wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for a woman who fucked married men to get promotions?Or are you trying to teach...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for a woman who fucked married men to get promotions?

Or are you trying to teach your daughter that it's ok to fuck her way to the top?

 

I don't have kids.

But what you have said there is a gross mischaracterization, while what I said is 100% factual.

But you be you!

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indy_maico wrote:

I don't have kids.

But what you have said there is a gross mischaracterization, while what I said is 100% factual.

But you be you!

How is it a gross mischaracterization?

Just because you don't like it and it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's a "gross mischaracterization".

Or do you really not know that she took dick from married men to get where she is?  You'd think as smart as you claim to be about this that you'd know the facts but maybe not.

 

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indy_maico wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for an adjudicated rapist who admitted on tape to 'just grab them by the pussy, they let you when your famous' and pays off porn actresses to keep quiet after having cheated on his wife who was at home with his newborn son?

 

LungButter wrote:
How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for a woman who fucked married men to get promotions?Or are you trying to teach...

How do you explain to your daughter that you are voting for a woman who fucked married men to get promotions?

Or are you trying to teach your daughter that it's ok to fuck her way to the top?

 

As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them a job. 

Hard to blame a woman for taking advantage of a weak willed simp. 

Or do you think she's just some unresistable seductress and you can't imagine yourself being able to resist her charm and guile? 

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LungButter wrote:
How is it a gross mischaracterization?Just because you don't like it and it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's a "gross mischaracterization".Or do you really not...

How is it a gross mischaracterization?

Just because you don't like it and it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's a "gross mischaracterization".

Or do you really not know that she took dick from married men to get where she is?  You'd think as smart as you claim to be about this that you'd know the facts but maybe not.

 

This is why it is a gross mischaracterization. A grown woman being slut-shamed for dating a guy whose wife wouldn't give him a divorce. So what? Your guy is an adjudicated rapist and fraudster. 

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As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them...

As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them a job. 

Hard to blame a woman for taking advantage of a weak willed simp. 

Or do you think she's just some unresistable seductress and you can't imagine yourself being able to resist her charm and guile? 

So I guess what you're saying is that neither of them were qualified to be in office?

Kinda like Sleepy Joe.

You Democrats seem to have a pattern here of electing unqualified people just because you're so emotional.

It's wild.

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As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them...

As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them a job. 

Hard to blame a woman for taking advantage of a weak willed simp. 

Or do you think she's just some unresistable seductress and you can't imagine yourself being able to resist her charm and guile? 

He was 60. She was 29.

She didn't have to be much of a seductress, just willing. 

 

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As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them...

As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them a job. 

Hard to blame a woman for taking advantage of a weak willed simp. 

Or do you think she's just some unresistable seductress and you can't imagine yourself being able to resist her charm and guile? 

vet323 wrote:

He was 60. She was 29.

She didn't have to be much of a seductress, just willing. 

 

Oh so a 31 year age gap means that he can't say no then? 

 

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Because it’s a 99/1 ratioSame reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door...

Because it’s a 99/1 ratio

Same reason I get more nervous driving on the highway than I do of flying. Or, when I lock my car door at home, but not at my grandparents land with no neighbors.

ToolMaker wrote:
Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in...

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

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Absolutely no where did I say it was okay.My feeling is that it is disingenuous to call out illegal immigrants, when domestically the threat is much...

Absolutely no where did I say it was okay.


My feeling is that it is disingenuous to call out illegal immigrants, when domestically the threat is much larger.


When you say you teach your daughters about the danger in dark areas, I can flip this on you and say, interesting that you only teach her the dangers of dark areas, when in reality, YOU should be teaching her the dangers of YOUR male family members. You should be teaching her the dangers of staying at a friends house. You should be teaching her the dangers of excessive drinking in college. You should be teaching her the dangers of that first high school crush that doesn’t understand what no means. You taught her to be on the lookout for the minority of the situation and not the majority. 
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See how that works? 

"See how that works?" No, I actually don't. What is it you think you flipped?

Do you understand what you read? I made a point that some environments have a HIGHER level of risk. Did you even read the post? Because if you did, you would have read "there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together"

You do realize the a very high percentage of the girls and women get raped along the way to getting here. You think those people that think it's OK to rape the girls are going to stop just because they got here? And the dumbest part ever is you won't acknowledge a group of people that have a high percentage of rapists in the group. But you want to call out a group of people (boyfriends) that by percentages have a smaller group of rapists.

SMH

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As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them...

As I said when this was previously discussed, it's kinda like a migrant stealing a job. They actually can't do it. Someone has to give them a job. 

Hard to blame a woman for taking advantage of a weak willed simp. 

Or do you think she's just some unresistable seductress and you can't imagine yourself being able to resist her charm and guile? 

LungButter wrote:
So I guess what you're saying is that neither of them were qualified to be in office?Kinda like Sleepy Joe.You Democrats seem to have a pattern...

So I guess what you're saying is that neither of them were qualified to be in office?

Kinda like Sleepy Joe.

You Democrats seem to have a pattern here of electing unqualified people just because you're so emotional.

It's wild.

If I'm honest, you're the one that seems real emotional about it. I also don't understand what I've said implies support for Kamala.  All I've done is question what you guys so desparately want me to believe. If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past, that seems far more emotional than what I'm doing, which is reading any and all information possible and making the decision I think is best.  I've read everything posted in this thread, as well as both candidates written platforms (you need a link?). 

So if you'd like to educate me on how an immigrant can steal a job, or how a woman can take a job with a vagina, I'm willing to be swayed. But it seems to me you've got your panties in a bunch that a politician got a young piece of tang 30 years ago. 

And a final edit: It's also bananas that you and others are willing to find umbrage with Kamala on weird ethical grounds like this, but are also willing to dismiss any allegations against Trump. If you're going to apply scrutiny at least to so consistently. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in...

Interesting. I have a daughter and I worry about her all the time. The risk level of her walking from the store to her car in a dark parking lot vs a well lit parking lot is much different, so we teach them to minimize the risk, because as an attractive young female, there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together. But everyone parents differently. Have you ever seen where a whole community comes together to protest a SINGLE (one) sexual predator getting released from prison into their community. Because there is a high probability they have not changed. And here you think it's just OK to release all these sexual predators and not even keep track of them. By your logic, there's no reason to keep drunks off the road because the odds of actually getting killed by a drunk are minimal as a ratio of all the drivers on the road.

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Absolutely no where did I say it was okay.My feeling is that it is disingenuous to call out illegal immigrants, when domestically the threat is much...

Absolutely no where did I say it was okay.


My feeling is that it is disingenuous to call out illegal immigrants, when domestically the threat is much larger.


When you say you teach your daughters about the danger in dark areas, I can flip this on you and say, interesting that you only teach her the dangers of dark areas, when in reality, YOU should be teaching her the dangers of YOUR male family members. You should be teaching her the dangers of staying at a friends house. You should be teaching her the dangers of excessive drinking in college. You should be teaching her the dangers of that first high school crush that doesn’t understand what no means. You taught her to be on the lookout for the minority of the situation and not the majority. 
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See how that works? 

ToolMaker wrote:
"See how that works?" No, I actually don't. What is it you think you flipped?Do you understand what you read? I made a point that some...

"See how that works?" No, I actually don't. What is it you think you flipped?

Do you understand what you read? I made a point that some environments have a HIGHER level of risk. Did you even read the post? Because if you did, you would have read "there is always risk. We don't ever just ignore it all together"

You do realize the a very high percentage of the girls and women get raped along the way to getting here. You think those people that think it's OK to rape the girls are going to stop just because they got here? And the dumbest part ever is you won't acknowledge a group of people that have a high percentage of rapists in the group. But you want to call out a group of people (boyfriends) that by percentages have a smaller group of rapists.

SMH

Alright bud, we’re not going to agree on this and that’s okay


Sincerely, everything I’ve read from you points to you being a good parent, keep doing what you’re doing man

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If I'm honest, you're the one that seems real emotional about it. I also don't understand what I've said implies support for Kamala.  All I've done...

If I'm honest, you're the one that seems real emotional about it. I also don't understand what I've said implies support for Kamala.  All I've done is question what you guys so desparately want me to believe. If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past, that seems far more emotional than what I'm doing, which is reading any and all information possible and making the decision I think is best.  I've read everything posted in this thread, as well as both candidates written platforms (you need a link?). 

So if you'd like to educate me on how an immigrant can steal a job, or how a woman can take a job with a vagina, I'm willing to be swayed. But it seems to me you've got your panties in a bunch that a politician got a young piece of tang 30 years ago. 

And a final edit: It's also bananas that you and others are willing to find umbrage with Kamala on weird ethical grounds like this, but are also willing to dismiss any allegations against Trump. If you're going to apply scrutiny at least to so consistently. 

"If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past,"

Then why do your Liberal Brothers in Arms constantly bring up Trump cheating on his Wife but conveniently ignore that Kamala slutted her way to the top?

You should also tell your LIberal Brothers in Arms to practice what you preach in your last line.

You act like Trump is some scum bag but are basically celebrating Kamala being a slut.

It's fucking wild.

If you've lived in America the last 4 years and also done your "research" and you STILL think voting for her is going to make America a better place....well as they say you can't' fix....

Anyway, I gotta work.  Catch ya'll on the other side when Trump wins and the Liberals start burning cities....I'm sure a bunch of you are just waiting to defend that shit like you did during the Summer of Love.

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So I guess what you're saying is that neither of them were qualified to be in office?Kinda like Sleepy Joe.You Democrats seem to have a pattern...

So I guess what you're saying is that neither of them were qualified to be in office?

Kinda like Sleepy Joe.

You Democrats seem to have a pattern here of electing unqualified people just because you're so emotional.

It's wild.

Democrats elect unqualified people?

Who in the world was/is more unqualified than D. J. tRump????

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10/18/2024 10:05am
indy_maico wrote:

Democrats elect unqualified people?

Who in the world was/is more unqualified than D. J. tRump????

Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Tampon Tim. 

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10/18/2024 10:15am
indy_maico wrote:

Democrats elect unqualified people?

Who in the world was/is more unqualified than D. J. tRump????

Tell me, what policies or actions did Trump take while in office that makes you think he's unqualified?

Don't be emotional, present facts.

Then please present some facts of things that have happened the last 4 years that make you think Biden or Kamala are qualified.... I won't hold my breath because I'm pretty sure the only thing you can come up with is "I hate Trump cause I'm a little bitch and he hurt my feelings so I'm voting for Kamala."

It's honestly sad as fuck how many of you just blindly follow the cult like good little sheep.

Have a good day bro, might wanna go buy some groceries before the price goes up even more thanks to your boy Sleepy Joe.

 

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10/18/2024 10:23am
If I'm honest, you're the one that seems real emotional about it. I also don't understand what I've said implies support for Kamala.  All I've done...

If I'm honest, you're the one that seems real emotional about it. I also don't understand what I've said implies support for Kamala.  All I've done is question what you guys so desparately want me to believe. If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past, that seems far more emotional than what I'm doing, which is reading any and all information possible and making the decision I think is best.  I've read everything posted in this thread, as well as both candidates written platforms (you need a link?). 

So if you'd like to educate me on how an immigrant can steal a job, or how a woman can take a job with a vagina, I'm willing to be swayed. But it seems to me you've got your panties in a bunch that a politician got a young piece of tang 30 years ago. 

And a final edit: It's also bananas that you and others are willing to find umbrage with Kamala on weird ethical grounds like this, but are also willing to dismiss any allegations against Trump. If you're going to apply scrutiny at least to so consistently. 

LungButter wrote:
"If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past,"Then why do your Liberal Brothers in Arms constantly bring...

"If you're not going to vote for someone because of who they slept with in the past,"

Then why do your Liberal Brothers in Arms constantly bring up Trump cheating on his Wife but conveniently ignore that Kamala slutted her way to the top?

You should also tell your LIberal Brothers in Arms to practice what you preach in your last line.

You act like Trump is some scum bag but are basically celebrating Kamala being a slut.

It's fucking wild.

If you've lived in America the last 4 years and also done your "research" and you STILL think voting for her is going to make America a better place....well as they say you can't' fix....

Anyway, I gotta work.  Catch ya'll on the other side when Trump wins and the Liberals start burning cities....I'm sure a bunch of you are just waiting to defend that shit like you did during the Summer of Love.

Again you're so sure I'm a liberal, when all I've done is question what you're expecting me to believe. I find myself (only speaking for myself) unable/unwilling to examine ethics in this election because I think it's futile. But if I am, and I'm trying to be as objective as possible, and sticking only to the ethics of relationships, then I find Kamala's affair to be less egregious than Trump's conduct, even if it was beneficial to her. And even if you think Trump's legal trouble is political persecution, I think being able to find things that are legally actionable is troublesome, especially as I don't believe that only the democrats would be willing to abuse the justice system. Ultimately though, if you guys are unwilling to take ethics (especially related to personal relationships) into consideration, don't expect me to either. 

And you're right, the last four years have been pretty shitty.  I've been pretty vocal on these boards that I've hated our local Democratic mayor (paying 42K/yr/per hotel room to house homeless), and I plan voting conservatively in local elections. Federally is different though. It seems like conventional wisdom until 2016 was that if a President got two terms, the first term was them getting their feet underneath them and putting into motion their vision for our country. It was the second term, and following first term of following president where we as a nation would see the fruits of their policies.  

Now we're expected to believe that Trump turned everything around and fixed all our problems in four years, and then Biden fucked it all up in four years. I feel this cycle of tumultuous, oppositional one-term presidencies is going to fuck over all Americans in the long term, and that most of our political issues are actually capitalism and economics being presented as ethical issues. I think both the abortion ban and loosening of immigration serve to solve the same problem of our below replacement (since 1971) birth rate. The way we've built our capitalistic system, we need to continually produce consumers. Banning abortion and allowing in a massive new class of poverty-stricken immigrants allows for that. Even looking at the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio, the catalyst for that population was a staffing company bussing in Haitians to fill positions at a manufacturing facility, which started chain migration leading to the large population there. 

As long as there are bodies and dollars to sacrifice to the altar of capitalism, the machine will continue while we collectively argue about which head should go atop the totem pole.

 

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10/18/2024 10:35am Edited Date/Time 10/18/2024 11:48am
indy_maico wrote:

Democrats elect unqualified people?

Who in the world was/is more unqualified than D. J. tRump????

LungButter wrote:
Tell me, what policies or actions did Trump take while in office that makes you think he's unqualified?Don't be emotional, present facts.Then please present some facts...

Tell me, what policies or actions did Trump take while in office that makes you think he's unqualified?

Don't be emotional, present facts.

Then please present some facts of things that have happened the last 4 years that make you think Biden or Kamala are qualified.... I won't hold my breath because I'm pretty sure the only thing you can come up with is "I hate Trump cause I'm a little bitch and he hurt my feelings so I'm voting for Kamala."

It's honestly sad as fuck how many of you just blindly follow the cult like good little sheep.

Have a good day bro, might wanna go buy some groceries before the price goes up even more thanks to your boy Sleepy Joe.

 

In 2016 Trump campaigned on lowering Pharma prices, declined or was unable to negotiate any breaks in pharma pricing during his presidency and is currently campaigning on "Telling pharma companies we will only pay the cheapest prices that they offer other countries. 

For Biden let's talk about oil. Sure, oil prices are higher than in Donald Trump's presidency. But Trump had the lowest oil demand numbers in modern history due to COVID. Since Biden took office, Russia invaded Ukraine, OPEC attempted to squeeze, and the Keystone pipeline got shut down. All of which should have been disaster for US consumers. 

Instead, US oil production reached all-time highs, the oil industry added jobs at a crazy rate, and export and profitability reached all time highs, all while the green-energy sector grew at twice the rate of the US economy at large.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2024/03/12/eia-confirms-historic-us-oil-production-record/

https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/press_room/7305.htm

I'm for moving the US toward energy independence. 

Edited to add: Yes, the US became the world's largest oil producer under Trump. However production ramp up began in 2009 under Obama. Also, supporters of the Keystone pipeline thought that if scrapped it would lead to larger numbers if importation from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and Nigeria, all of those countries are currently exporting less oil to the US than during Trump's presidency, and in the case of Venezuela, they have exported less oil in the entirety of Biden's presidency than 3/4 years under Trump. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/201844/us-petroleum-imports-by-country-since-1985/

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