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Just getting a handle on it.... appears as though 130 some odd B riders have been bumped to A class. I spoke to Leanne Baggett, Blake's mom, who had the rules printed out. The entire Xtreme Team Green B team of Sjoberg and Wilson, Travis Baker, Bruce Rutherford are names that come to mind. In Rutherford's situation he rode four classses at a Loretta qualifier at Comp Edge last year and averaged 18 points. The AMA rule says 15 or more point average and your bumped. Rutherford got hurt after that and did not ride the Regional. That was the only AMA race he attended all year! Also from what I here the amateur team managers are very unhappy about it and are trying to change the rule..... should be interesting with Qualifires starting today. For those of you that want to read up on the rules go to the AMA website and look at the rules.... page 45 breaks down how the points are awarded. There is also a results section where you can search by rider name and or event. The rider search shows the average points..... It's gonna be a mess!
Here's a thought, it's about freaking time the AMA started moving up and out. In your example, the Rutherford kid averaged 18 points and move up is 15, what's the problem? This sounds like a bunch of Moto parents more concerned about sponsorship ramifications than cleaning up the classes.
Lake Whitney is gonna be crazy, I was told of a few B's to be moved when they get there
(do not ask me names, not only can I not remember, but was asked to not name any names anyway)
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Anyhow, at Whitney (which was a qualifier) several riders were bumped. Tevin Tapia was one. He rode incredible and definitely was a force to be reckoned with. He was so excited at the close of racing and so were his mom and dad. He didn't know he was an A rider when he arrived - but actually showed he was definitely that caliber of rider on the track. Everyone was impressed. He referred to his move as the next step to his professional career - it's obvious he's going in the right diretion.
We'll see what happens - but if you're planning on qualifying for Loretta's and you're at least 16 years old - it might be a good idea to do the math first.
I only wish now that they would separate the A from the Pro classes ...
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Happens every race... And those "B" riders are the first one to drop down when ever and where ever they can, i.e. Mammoth MX. It's pathetic.
Nice to see that a list has been formed, now I wish i had it in friggin January and not March!
130 riders, WOW, thats a SMALL list.
Nice to see that a list has been formed, now I wish i had it in friggin January and not March!
130 riders, WOW, thats a SMALL list.[/quote:re9rcc99]
You haven't heard? Four strokes are too expensive so everyone's moving to NASCAR.
IMO there should not be any " team " or " sponsored " guys in the B class. Make it a reward for making it to the A class.
IMO there should not be any " team " or " sponsored " guys in the B class. Make it a reward for making it to the A class.[/quote:188fnby9][/quote:188fnby9]
Are you kidding we have C riders that show up in 250K rigs!
Oh and by the way, I had heard that they were "thinking " on NOT advancing ANY b-a riders this season.................and you know I bitched like hell to FOLLOW THE RULES>.
This National List or advancement is so dam needed and good for AMA to do the hard call. We, have done this here for 25 years and riders whined and bitched, but it will make a much stronger AMA and a LEVEL or a much more level playing field for the racers to compete in. NOW that it has a criteria level all the way to PRO, it is a very good thing this happened. THe system for 2008 is revamped and will keep the Cozad issues to a minimum, and the points are changed so to make more fair.
For those complaining three of us asked for this rule and implementation in the year 2000. It took this long to get to this point and I commend AMA for finally getting this done. good things take time, this first list may have some problems but it is needed and necessary.
Sandbaggers of the world, huddle up in a corner, because it's about time to be moved..............
as if the AMA didn't have enough problems, now they are trying to piss off Jesus by moving up the chosen one?
Pit Row
Sorry but this is one of the most misquoted NON RULE there was, you will not find in the AMA rule book this rule anywhere and it was never in there EVER.
LOL, it goes by submitting a request to return in class, and now you have to go in front of a panel who decides ONE TIME, after that you can't appeal and appeal and appeal......it's one shot.
yes and that is why Ryan took alot of time and then the committee last fall change the point structure so that won't happen as much. There still is a good appeal process now in place. One time shot to appeal, and an appeal board with knowledge of the sport. This may take a year, and some may not like it, but "factory" backed "pro" B riders will have to now ride the class they belong....... and if they ALL get moved it won't matter much they will race each other in a higher class level.
Don - we have been aware of the Advancement System with the AMA for awhile. If we are aware of it, I'm sure others had to be also. We've been told for years to "read the rule book". Simple enough. I just think most have also been aware, they just didn't think it would be enforced. Yep, Justin has a few more years left in the B class, by age ... he's only 14. However, if he was doing exceptionally well in the class and not being challenged - well, it would be time to move. Fortunately, he is being extremely challenged at the moment and loving every minute of it ... kinda keeps it fun I think.
Ya know - easy isn't always better. When you feel like you've accomplished something you didn't think you could do, you actually feel pretty darn good at what you've done. It's just a life thing!
wt....?
I thought the whole point was to go as fast as you can, and try to advance to the highest level you can?[/quote:53y1ueqg]
Scott - quit living in the past.
Only Top Intermediate or Pro's should be getting any support at all.
When I started racing, everyones goal was to make it to Pro, NOT win races at the local amateur level. Things are now all out of wack.
http://www.amadirectlink.com/amrace/adv ... /index.asp
I thought the whole point was to go as fast as you can, and try to advance to the highest level you can?[/quote:28jemeh8]
Scott - quit living in the past.
Only Top Intermediate or Pro's should be getting any support at all.
When I started racing, everyones goal was to make it to Pro, NOT win races at the local amateur level. Things are now all out of wack.[/quote:28jemeh8]
Most of these "sandbaggers" aren't in it to win at the local level and could give shit less about even going to a local race.
I was in B class for not even a full 2 years and got crap from people for not moving up. I went to LL in B class my second year and got 6th so I didn't technically have to move up. I moved up to A for my next race after LL and the district gave me crap about that for not having enough points...
Wardy, in your opinion, is the system starting to work as it should?
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