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From Autoracing1.com this morning:
NASCAR Could Be Going Motorcycle Racing As Bike Week kicks off Friday in Daytona Beach Florida comes word that NASCAR may announce during the events, which run through March 9, that they are purchasing a motorcycle racing division from the American Motorcyclist Association.
The AMA, which was founded in 1924, announced last September that they were getting out of the racing series promotions business and would seek series promoters for each of its professional and amateur racing series.
The series’ the AMA is looking to shed include the Super bike, Flat Track, Supermoto, Pro ATV Motocross, Motocross, Supercross and the Hillclimb Championship.
The series that NASCAR is interested in is the Flat Track Series. The Flat Track series is basically dirt track oval racing and is the oldest series in the AMA dating back to 1954.
NASCAR Could Be Going Motorcycle Racing As Bike Week kicks off Friday in Daytona Beach Florida comes word that NASCAR may announce during the events, which run through March 9, that they are purchasing a motorcycle racing division from the American Motorcyclist Association.
The AMA, which was founded in 1924, announced last September that they were getting out of the racing series promotions business and would seek series promoters for each of its professional and amateur racing series.
The series’ the AMA is looking to shed include the Super bike, Flat Track, Supermoto, Pro ATV Motocross, Motocross, Supercross and the Hillclimb Championship.
The series that NASCAR is interested in is the Flat Track Series. The Flat Track series is basically dirt track oval racing and is the oldest series in the AMA dating back to 1954.
NASCAR Could Be Going Motorcycle Racing As Bike Week kicks off Friday in Daytona Beach Florida comes word that NASCAR may announce during the events, which run through March 9, that they are purchasing a motorcycle racing division from the American Motorcyclist Association.
The AMA, which was founded in 1924, announced last September that they were getting out of the racing series promotions business and would seek series promoters for each of its professional and amateur racing series.
The series’ the AMA is looking to shed include the Super bike, Flat Track, Supermoto, Pro ATV Motocross, Motocross, Supercross and the Hillclimb Championship.
The series that NASCAR is interested in is the Flat Track Series. The Flat Track series is basically dirt track oval racing and is the oldest series in the AMA dating back to 1954.[/quote:3u3qwsz4]
They are interested in road racing too, and there is a rumor they wanted a contract for all of racing, including MX.
That's why the delay in contract news. Big fussing over road, and it may extend to all series. OEMs wondering why bother if NASCAR runs everything and turns it into a test of rider and not machine.
What if the AMA decision pisses off the OEMs enough to walk?
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The AMA and OEM's have already done that.
Fuck NASCAB. They've ruined enough racing series.[/quote:yglybtgc]
So you're saying that running moonshine and rubbin' racin' on the weekends in shitholes across the south is preferable to the multibillion dollar business that is NASCAR today?
You sir, are an idiot.
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Steel tube frame
Restrictor plate 450 pushrod engine
Dual shocks
Steel tank with rubber fuel cell
Wheel tethers
Riders have to wear those bell-bottomed fire suits like the NASCAR taxi drivers wear.
I don't want to watch a 'business'. I want to see RACING. NASCAB is anything BUT racing. It's a SHOW, and it sucks. Same with the France family's Grand Am series. They ruined the 24 Hours of Daytona - so much that the factories won't even participate in the race's premier class.
You, sir, don't know wtf you're talking about.[/quote:1yq45y2q]
Hmmm I'll keep that in mind. In the meantime genius, let's figure out why NASCAR has been so successful but you think it "sucks".
In your esteemed opinion, it isn't racing? "Pure" racing goes on every weekend through out this country on motocross tracks, crosscountry events, Fairgrounds ect... for autos its dirt tracks, bullrings and small speedways and its great. It's all about passion, a labor of love and only very rarely profitable. It is a hobby done for the love of the sport. Unfortunately guys like you expect that what works on the local level will work on a grand scale.
The fact of the matter is the term PROFESSIONAL means you are supposed to be paid for your efforts. To be [i:1yq45y2q]paid [/i:1yq45y2q] you'd better be doing something people will pay you for. That means putting on a show. That means ensuring that there is competition. That means facilities that people will want to come to. That means marketing outside of your inner circle of friends. That means people being involved that are good at this stuff but not in love with the "sport". So this all means, its a business at the professional level. There is no metric, in a commercial sense, that the France family can be considered anything but wildly successful. [b:1yq45y2q]AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL[/b:1yq45y2q] motorcycle racing could learn alot and benefit greatly from the NASCAR business model.
You're a wrestling fan, too, aren't you?[/quote:i7jquser]
You're an idealist, who can't figure out why you fail, aren't you?
It has nothing to do with ideals, and everything to do with recognizing what REAL racing looks like.[/quote:3oaoit19]
So you would rather watch racing that allows certain riders to use parts that are unobtainable to all racers and in turn receive a huge mechanical advantage, such as in MX/SX. Or would you rather watch F-1 which is a sport that is dominated by computer controlled cars.
It has nothing to do with ideals, and everything to do with recognizing what REAL racing looks like.[/quote:35lbj61s]
[quote="WORCSRACER":35lbj61s] "Pure" racing goes on every weekend through out this country on motocross tracks, crosscountry events, Fairgrounds ect... for autos its dirt tracks, bullrings and small speedways and its great. It's all about passion, a labor of love and only very rarely profitable. It is a hobby done for the love of the sport. [/quote:35lbj61s]
Maybe you should spend less time worrying about racing more time on reading comprehension.
Newsflash- AMA SX is currently much closer to a Monster Truck SHOW than it is to a true RACING series.
More HP via less-restrctive plates, larger displacement, lighter weight, etc, etc.[/quote:prwiwqjr]
I thought the Nascar group kept things on a pretty even playing field. Yeah, I could "imagine" all sorts of ways to give a mechanical advantage...but that doesn't prove they're actually doing that!
More HP via less-restrctive plates, larger displacement, lighter weight, etc, etc.[/quote:37p2gnmx]
And that is going to happen secretly with over 40 teams in the garage, a couple dozen inspectors in the garage and hundreds of team members. Your arguments are weak and baseless. Lets just look at your plate theory. To give a competitor a larger plate you would need the officials that issue the plates to be in or the fix, then you would need the tech officials to be in on it, then the motor builders would have to be in on it seeing how they have to recalibrate the fuel settings for the added airflow, after the driver manages to finish 400-600 miles without wrecking or screwing up in the pits you would need to have the post race officials in on it when they do the inspection. And after all that you would have to hope that someone doesn't get fired down the road and get pissed off enough to tell the media.
Yeah, I'm sure that NASCAR would risk the hundreds of millions of dollars they would surely lose just so one driver could win.
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You're right.
It's all just one big coincidence after another.[/quote:1zgh184e]
Did'nt # 8 win at daytona the year after # 3 died there? I really do not follow NASCAR.
You're right.
It's all just one big coincidence after another.[/quote:14p9pf9h]
Did'nt # 8 win at daytona the year after # 3 died there? I really do not follow NASCAR.[/quote:14p9pf9h]And what is surprising about a DEI or RCR car winning a restrictor plate race they only dominated those races for about 3 years prior to that. Keep reachin fellas.
I'd rather watch a racing series that doesn't have a foregone conclusion - like Petty's 200th win. It just HAPPENED to be at Daytona when the President of the US just HAPPENED to be in attendance.
I'd rather watch a racing series that doesn't throw out a caution flag for "debris" anytime the field starts to spread out.
I have a lot of prerequesites for racing if I'm going to spend my time following a series. I've always been selective like that.[/quote:1fa0lgim]
You're in the minority, obviously.
NASCAR does know a thing or two I absolutely agree with. They know that your stars have to be in the show, to have a show. Not retired or busted up. And they know that races that are as competitive on the last lap as they are in the first turn really attracts interest. And they know a thing or two about TV packaging that also attracts John Q Public fans like real-time telemetry, radio communications, etc. And with those fans come sponsorship packages. And with more money and less risk, riders will stay in the game longer. And then everyone can quit bitching about MX never getting anywhere.
And, you know what? You'll watch it, anyway, even with all the crap you don't like about it. Because it will still be the only motocross on TV.
You're in the minority, obviously.
NASCAR does know a thing or two I absolutely agree with. They know that your stars have to be in the show, to have a show. Not retired or busted up. And they know that races that are as competitive on the last lap as they are in the first turn really attracts interest. And they know a thing or two about TV packaging that also attracts John Q Public fans like real-time telemetry, radio communications, etc. And with those fans come sponsorship packages. And with more money and less risk, riders will stay in the game longer. And then everyone can quit bitching about MX never getting anywhere.
And, you know what? You'll watch it, anyway, even with all the crap you don't like about it. Because it will still be the only motocross on TV.[/quote:v8eu7298]
Bonepony, a guy from Texas figured it out. What's your excuse?
I wouldn't watch a NASCAR motocross race if it was the only moto racing series on the planet. I watched a couple of the NASCAR road races, but stopped after it became apparent that a non-NASCAB pilot would never be allowed to win one of them.[/quote:ot1dm9rw]So you're mad because a road racer that is used to racing supped-up go carts couldn't just walk in and beat the big boys from the south.
Bonepony, a guy from Texas figured it out. What's your excuse?
What's my excuse about what?
I don't like watching prepackaged, closely manipulated 'racing' that appeals to the lowest common denominator. There's no excuse involved.[/quote:pl3ei619]
You're a complete moron. Not because you don't like NASCAR, but because now you have to resort to putting down all those that do watch.
Yeah, that's it.[/quote:3tlqlmab]
Please tell us, what exactly has AMA Pro Racing done to provide a better RACING series? Especially in comparison to Nascar..
Yeah, that's it.[/quote:31tlxqj4]
Please tell us, what exactly has AMA Pro Racing done to provide a better RACING series? Especially in comparison to Nascar..[/quote:31tlxqj4]
They haven't done anything other than provide basic rules and regulations.
That's what I like about it.[/quote:31tlxqj4]
So doing almost nothing improves RACING?
It sure as hell doesn't make it worse. [/quote:1ncbmrto]
Why not?
It's not my fault if you're naive nough to believe that NASCAR isn't rigged.
You're a perfect fit for the NASCAB demographic: Angry, confrontational, and not-so-bright.
Enjoy the 'racing'.[/quote:m3cbt68c]I'm not angry or confrontational. Hell it doesn't matter to me one way or another. But I can not stand someone that shows there ignorance by throwing out accusations with absolutely zero proof. Have fun in your tin foil hat.
More HP via less-restrctive plates, larger displacement, lighter weight, etc, etc.[/quote:z1p0ihjd]
And that is going to happen secretly with over 40 teams in the garage, a couple dozen inspectors in the garage and hundreds of team members. Your arguments are weak and baseless. Lets just look at your plate theory. To give a competitor a larger plate you would need the officials that issue the plates to be in or the fix, then you would need the tech officials to be in on it, then the motor builders would have to be in on it seeing how they have to recalibrate the fuel settings for the added airflow, after the driver manages to finish 400-600 miles without wrecking or screwing up in the pits you would need to have the post race officials in on it when they do the inspection. And after all that you would have to hope that someone doesn't get fired down the road and get pissed off enough to tell the media.
Yeah, I'm sure that NASCAR would risk the hundreds of millions of dollars they would surely lose just so one driver could win.[/quote:z1p0ihjd]
You're right.
It's all just one big coincidence after another.[/quote:z1p0ihjd]
Let me guess your favorite movies are JFK and anything by Michael Moore...
It sure as hell doesn't make it worse. [/quote:1g9qjx1b]
Why not?[/quote:1g9qjx1b]
I didn't think you could provide any valid reasons, nice job. Carry on.
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