If BMW made a motocross bike, would you buy it?

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9/9/2024 3:55pm
This reminds me of the Aprilia experiment 🥴 

This reminds me of the Aprilia experiment 🥴

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AMetts wrote:
The dirtbike Aprilia didnt work out but the Supermoto versions are still ripping around guys spend big money keeping them running, the power to weight and...

The dirtbike Aprilia didnt work out but the Supermoto versions are still ripping around guys spend big money keeping them running, the power to weight and handling is still insane compared to any other supermoto platform. 

I see them pop up for sale every now and again.  Been tempted a few times.

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9/9/2024 4:06pm Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 4:10pm
linker48x wrote:
BMW motocrosser?  Didn’t BMW design its enduro bike to have a countershaft concentric with the swingarm pivot?  Anybody who knows about bikes, especially dirt bikes, could...

BMW motocrosser?  Didn’t BMW design its enduro bike to have a countershaft concentric with the swingarm pivot?  Anybody who knows about bikes, especially dirt bikes, could see that wouldn’t work. That takes away all anti squat, and with it the ability to stiffen up the rear suspension by gassing it, such as when landing from jumps.   

I’ve never owned a BMW but they certainly do seem to have their own way of doing things. As a buddy of mine used to say, they come up with complicated engineering solutions to problems that never existed to start with. 

So I’d wait to see if what they came up with was any good, meaning not “creative”.

Yes it did. I had a chance to ride a pre production model. The suspension’ was set up horribly. They had it stink bug effect, so I didn’t get the proper chance to ride a balanced bike. Bike was a bit wide having the sprocket like that on the pivot bolt. Reminds me of the Cannondale, you could split the cases in the frame. Not sure if either are better or not.

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9/10/2024 7:11am

I think the Triumph is a great showcase of not having to reinvent the wheel when it comes to make an MX bike. These companies can all emulate an already successful platform and avoid some of the initial engineering woes. I don't think BMW would come back after how badly the 450 failed though. 

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9/10/2024 7:24am

I felt like the BMW off-road program was more of a pet project for someone rather than a true corporate attempt to enter the off-road market. It seemed strange that Bavarian Motor Works outsourced the motor works to Taiwan. They could do much better if so motivated.

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9/10/2024 10:50am
linker48x wrote:
BMW motocrosser?  Didn’t BMW design its enduro bike to have a countershaft concentric with the swingarm pivot?  Anybody who knows about bikes, especially dirt bikes, could...

BMW motocrosser?  Didn’t BMW design its enduro bike to have a countershaft concentric with the swingarm pivot?  Anybody who knows about bikes, especially dirt bikes, could see that wouldn’t work. That takes away all anti squat, and with it the ability to stiffen up the rear suspension by gassing it, such as when landing from jumps.   

I’ve never owned a BMW but they certainly do seem to have their own way of doing things. As a buddy of mine used to say, they come up with complicated engineering solutions to problems that never existed to start with. 

So I’d wait to see if what they came up with was any good, meaning not “creative”.

“I’ve never owned a BMW but they certainly do seem to have their own way of doing things. As a buddy of mine used to say, they come up with complicated engineering solutions to problems that never existed to start with.”


So very true. To change the battery in my wife’s car: It requires a plain screwdriver, pliers, 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, and a 13mm socket with an extension. 16 bolts, 4 fasteners, 1 wire fastener, 9 components removed/replaced, in addition to two battery connections. Just to replace battery….


The BMW Procedure to replace the $50 emergency battery by the shark fin costs $2600 at the dealer. Basically have to disassemble the interior. 

You think any of the wiper blades on the racks at WalMart or your local parts store work on a BMW? That would be a negative. They have their own unique attachment. 

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9/10/2024 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 9/10/2024 12:08pm

What a POS that bike was.  I worked at a BMW,MINI, Motorad dealer when these bikes came out.  At the time I rode a 2007 YZ250F, then later a 2010 YZ450F.  The bike was garbage from the beginning.  It handled weird, had poor suspension, vibrated a ton, and had the worst seat of any dirt bike I've ever ridden.  BMW could not give those bikes away, they had a warehouse full of them.  At some point they shipped us 10 of them to go put some miles on.  BMW USA just wanted to be able to sell them used at auction.  It was almost not worth putting miles on them for free because of how crappy they rode.  I remember working a demo day, I led the groups on my YZ250F instead of the BMW because it wasn't any fun to ride.   I can't remember how many we sold, it wasn't many.  The ones that did sell had huge incentives on them. 

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