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how/why was the fireman shot? In the videos, he was at the upper left of the bleachers behind Trump. As in (a total guess) 30 yards away. that is one hell of a miss. Anyone else find it curious?
Sure. However, the connections of Lee Harvey Oswalt (even if you subscribe to the multiple shooter theory I would highly doubt Oswalt was purely a patsy) to the "establishment" were way more obfuscated than literally putting the guy in a commercial for a company with such a nefarious and questionable reputation. Additionally, the motivations for the JFK assassination, at least in my understanding, were also a lot less obvious than they would be in this shooting, as Oswalt was framed as a commie enemy to America.
Then you also have the current political climate, we were a lot more stable as a society when JFK was shot. I mean I wasn't there, but I don't believe the American public started questioning the circumstance of that situation in the immediate aftermath. If you're assassinating Trump in a play for power, you at least have to create a situation where you at least stand to benefit, and I still haven't seen anything that would benefit the "establishment" in this case, the Democratic party.
You also have to consider we now view the JFK assassination with 60 years of scrutiny and political context added in. I
But also, in agreeance with my last post, I think the responsibility of the JFK assassination was on the "machine" of big government as opposed to one political faction or the other. And if I'm honest if this guy didn't act alone in the attempted assassination of Trump, then it's far more likely to be corporate interest or the "machine" of big government than the DNC.
His second volley was what, 4-5 rounds?
He wasn't very good with one at a time, so I'm sure he would be all over the place with a rapid volley.
(Just a guess of course)
I mean the guy put out 8 rounds aiming for a giant mass of bodies and only hit Trump, that guy and one other person (I think).
As lucky as Trump was not to get hit(more seriously), I think that shot was also lucky to be as on target as he was.
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i read that the firemen took the bullet to the forehead. that's one hell of an accurate shot. dunno - something just smells weird about the fireman getting a direct shot 30+yards away from the target.
I mean it's a good shot IF that's what he's aiming for. If you're just popping rounds in a general direction it's lucky/unlucky depending on which end of the gun you're on.
I do not buy into the conspiracy theory. Yes, this was a calamity of errors.
For the past 8 years you have had people saying Trump is a threat to democracy. Trump is Hitler. Trump wants to take your rights away.
And that’s the tame stuff being said.
Is it any wonder you have a lone wolf looking to take out “the biggest threat to democracy”.
Suprised it hasn’t happened sooner.
Every president, former president, or those running for president, deserve protection.
We cannot dictate security through the lenses of politics.
I do not like Joe Biden. But he’s a United States president. We cannot allow a US president, current or former, to be shot and killed.
He’s my president. He’s our sitting United States President. I would be upset and frankly ashamed if he were to be assassinated.
We need to do better.
Trump deserves protection. The highest we as a nation can provide.
It’s absolutely shameful that people were attempting to remove his security detail through some law or rule.
He’s a former United States President.
Killing a current President, a former President, or a citizen running for president…. Is a TOTAL breakdown in our society.
The fact ANYONE would cheer the attempted killing of a former US President is embarrassing.
An asteroid can’t come soon enough…
What does Blackrock do?
I guess exist was a poor word for me to use.
The strongest supporters of the second amendment seem not to want to give up the slightest bit of their freedom to arm themselves, because they know every restriction is a step towards the next one.
As mentioned in the example earlier, there are influential groups of people who support Donald Trump who want to restrict the freedoms of women and of LGBT individuals. Every law passed or right taken away is a step towards a world where I’m less valid as a human being.
I didn't waste my time reading it....stopped reading their posts a while back.
I said earlier in this thread that people are being played. Seen this very same type of thing on another high traffic heavily conservative leaning message board.
The end game is get people clipped/banned. Tread at your own risk.
According to the SS DEI director there are more pressing issues that their attention must be focused on, rather than protecting past/present Presidents.
Secret Service equity director says DEI agenda is a 'mission imperative,' the 'ultimate goal' | Fox News
Yep, I'm sure you know this but others may not, as you shoot successive rounds out of a semi automatic rifle it's natural tendency is to climb upwards and to the left. That is where the recoil and ejection of the bullet casing pulls it due to physics.
From some guy called Nephi/Revenge of the Afghan that I’m listening to on a podcast:
He says there is audio forensic evidence that there was a SECOND SHOOTER 25% further away from the kid on the roof. 25% further is the additional distance to the water tower.
Folks, we are being told A story. They are not telling us THE story…
Regarding your last paragraph, there are groups on the right who feel the exact same way, only with the left/liberals/Democrats being the group that takes away rights. It's not just the 2nd amendment.
Also, the 2nd amendment is an ACTUAL amendment in the Constitution, but it is still attacked mercilessly by liberals. Just the fact it is the 2nd amendment should tell us how important it was to the Founders.
Whereas Roe v Wade was decided on some convoluted weavings within the Constitution.
By supporting the left/liberals/Democrats you are choosing the side which would lead us to socialism/communism or left-wing fascism, and you wouldn't be valued at all in those.
We should be defending the liberties and freedoms that are protected by the Constitution for all of us.
Take gay marriage for example. I am opposed to it from a personal belief/religious standpoint, but I also believe it is a right protected by the Constitution. Therefore I would defend it.
They are an absolutely massive multinational investment group and index provider. People call them a "shadow bank" and think they have a crazy amount of influence on economics due to their size. Their bad reputation is largely due to their "diversified" investments, such as: fossil fuels, weapons, and China. For example they are the only Foreign company allowed to wholly own a mutual fund within China's investment industry. At the same time they have a pretty cozy relationship with the Federal Reserve.
Jesus the more I research the less I know, but basically they are the face of Globalized Capital. However I have to think that people (myself included) are thinking of multiple companies when we're talking about how evil they are. Blackstone is the investment group buying up single family homes. Blackwater was the mercenary company. Blackrock is the global "shadow bank."
https://medium.com/@moneytent/blackrock-the-most-evil-business-in-the-world-fc2e2a9842c0#:~:text=This%20colossal%20financial%20control%20is,%2C%20economies%2C%20and%20global%20events. There is an article kinda laying out the influence they have, but take it with a grain of salt, as who knows what that guy's axe to grind is.
***Again, I believe (naive or not) that this is a swiss cheese situation. I still have a ton of questions though. Like what are the rules of engagement for the Secret Service? At what point did this kid break a law (I understand PA is an open carry state)? Even if open carry is legal, does the Secret Service have the authority to mark kid as a threat and detain? I agree that someone should have to answer for failings, but I also do not know enough about the actual rules and authorities of the secret service within this context to fully identify the failings other than saying "This should not have happened."
People also don’t think about how small of a deflection it would take to miss by 30ft at 150 yards.
This is just pure madness at this point.
We are living under a clown regime.
Roughly 4 degrees.
Pit Row
Video of Trump that is touting him walking into ER.....which shows a millisecond of him (basically a nothing burger). The more important thing to watch in this video is what appears to be the same incompetent female secret service agent going full keystone cop mode. Unbelievable.
https://x.com/EpochTimes/status/1813546763640590484
All I see reading this is a pretty fucking normal person. Actually, all things considered you're pretty impressive to come in hear with a bunch of old codgers talking political shit. That takes grit. Kudos to you!
TM
LOL
Thanks. I got downvotes on my question 🙄 When I Google the name I just see business lingo spaghetti and figured someone here could explain it better.
I believe that had the assassination been successful there would have been much violence in the streets. (Very uncommon for conservatives) and the DOJ could have started going after right leaning people like the J6 protesters.
Suppressing all speech in favor of conservatives. BOOM, endless power for the left.
My daughter is so upset with the republican party due to the states being able to restrict abortion and contraception. We go around and round about this all the time. The constitution is silent on abortion rights therefore it gets punted to the states. I don't see your rights being taken away from gay people. I do see rights NOT being extended to trans people that other people don't have. What rights are you afraid of losing because you have female spouse?
TM
You see the president has a head wound, you see SS agents with guns drawn, and you first instinct is to walk towards the president with your arms outstretched holding a phone for a video? You don't think there might be a SS agent a bit trigger happy and just catching a glimpse, and we have an Ashley Babbit moment? Fer Fucks Sake people!
TM
Not a democrat, but I think their best shot, maybe their only shot, at winning the election is against Trump. If Trump is out of the picture whoever the republicans nominate will win in a landslide against Biden.
I think poor planning and poor communication, and probably a little incompetence, opened the door of opportunity and the kid was able to get off 8 shots despite being marked by law enforcement.
I think this whole incident can be explained by malicious incompetence.
Weaponized nincompoopery.
Human nature.... these folks heard the president was shot in the head over the news and then they see him walking into the ER. Think JFK moment. Clearly, they were overjoyed. I agree...a dangerous situation and people need to use their heads.
I'm more concerned with the absolute horrendous training displayed by the SS female agents. The more I see videos of the initial attack and aftermath, it is shocking. I'm not being sexist...it pissed me off when I saw men in my field promoted/rewarded over women who were a thousand times better then the men. Which in that case was pure cronyism and piss poor management.
I have been sent proof of what was actually going on during the assassination attempt on President Trumps life….
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