Deegan vs de Wolf

Flatliner wrote:

Southwick isn't lommel...... both sand but pretty different.  I like de wolf,  deegan's initial agression from the drop of the gate is really hard to match...

Southwick isn't lommel...... both sand but pretty different.  I like de wolf,  deegan's initial agression from the drop of the gate is really hard to match.

 

Would be interesting.

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel.    I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because...

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel. 
 

I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because Deegan won yesterday, all of a sudden he’s now the fastest 250 sand rider in the world. De Wolf grew up in the sand. He was showing Anderson & Osborne the fastest way around Lommel in 2018 when they went testing there. 
 

On a hard pack track, who knows? 

Flatliner wrote:

Southwick isn't lommel...... both sand but pretty different.  I like de wolf,  deegan's initial agression from the drop of the gate is really hard to match...

Southwick isn't lommel...... both sand but pretty different.  I like de wolf,  deegan's initial agression from the drop of the gate is really hard to match.

 

Would be interesting.

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel.    I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because...

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel. 
 

I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because Deegan won yesterday, all of a sudden he’s now the fastest 250 sand rider in the world. De Wolf grew up in the sand. He was showing Anderson & Osborne the fastest way around Lommel in 2018 when they went testing there. 
 

On a hard pack track, who knows? 

profeshenal125 wrote:

The Europeans that raced Southwick last yr said it has a lot of hard edges. I would agree that it’s a shallow sand track . De...

The Europeans that raced Southwick last yr said it has a lot of hard edges. I would agree that it’s a shallow sand track . De Wolf is similar to Herlings but he’s more manual the rear end and looks to time and jump ovr kickers and use them to get a boost drive off of them. De Wolf would win by 12 to 50 seconds.  Only sand riders win in sand. Same in our state the super fast southern Wi. And IL. Riders at Aztalan don’t race north of Green Bay. Because the sand riders can’t be beat. Holland is all sand my mom is from there. Plus Dutch people hv a bad temper but not all of them.  That helps to get  aggressive and you need to be aggressive in the sand.  My mom flew out of the house and fired a claw hammer across the yard at my dad leaving . She put it through the back window on the 55 chev. My uncle put his fist through the old farm house wall next to my grandpas head. A Dutch foreman on the hhg rig pu his nephew by his neck with his arm straight out. Erik Eggens or Stribos could handle Deegan easily in the sand. 

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel.    I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because...

That’s very true, Southwick looked flat compared with a GP at Lommel. 
 

I’m not disputing Deegan’s speed. It seems funny that people think that because Deegan won yesterday, all of a sudden he’s now the fastest 250 sand rider in the world. De Wolf grew up in the sand. He was showing Anderson & Osborne the fastest way around Lommel in 2018 when they went testing there. 
 

On a hard pack track, who knows? 

profeshenal125 wrote:

The Europeans that raced Southwick last yr said it has a lot of hard edges. I would agree that it’s a shallow sand track . De...

The Europeans that raced Southwick last yr said it has a lot of hard edges. I would agree that it’s a shallow sand track . De Wolf is similar to Herlings but he’s more manual the rear end and looks to time and jump ovr kickers and use them to get a boost drive off of them. De Wolf would win by 12 to 50 seconds.  Only sand riders win in sand. Same in our state the super fast southern Wi. And IL. Riders at Aztalan don’t race north of Green Bay. Because the sand riders can’t be beat. Holland is all sand my mom is from there. Plus Dutch people hv a bad temper but not all of them.  That helps to get  aggressive and you need to be aggressive in the sand.  My mom flew out of the house and fired a claw hammer across the yard at my dad leaving . She put it through the back window on the 55 chev. My uncle put his fist through the old farm house wall next to my grandpas head. A Dutch foreman on the hhg rig pu his nephew by his neck with his arm straight out. Erik Eggens or Stribos could handle Deegan easily in the sand. 

mxxxeR1 wrote:

Hahaha😁😁😁😁😁😁😁you  have to watch on youtube dutch footbal suppoters and max verstappen fans......from left to right.......dutch a bad temper😁😁😁😁😁✌✌✌

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Europe guys always come to US and it truly is a big learning curve. 

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Europe guys always come to US and it truly is a big learning curve. 

DonM wrote:

This is literally the OP....  "Title says it all, who do y'all think is the best 250 rider in the world right now?".....I certainly don't see...

This is literally the OP....

 "Title says it all, who do y'all think is the best 250 rider in the world right now?".....I certainly don't see anything mentioned about sand....

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

Yeah & I said Deegan wouldn’t have won if De Wolf was racing Southwick. A sand track. The downvotes would suggest that De Wolf wouldn’t have...

Yeah & I said Deegan wouldn’t have won if De Wolf was racing Southwick. A sand track. The downvotes would suggest that De Wolf wouldn’t have beaten Deegan on sand. Then  someone said did I watch Southwick, which implies De Wolf wouldn’t have beaten Deegan in the sand. If people are suggesting the De Wolf couldn’t have beaten Deegan then that implies he is a better sand rider. 

Press516 wrote:

Vialle won back to back MX2 world titles, but now you see posts that he only won because Geerts gave it to him….  That’s like saying...

Vialle won back to back MX2 world titles, but now you see posts that he only won because Geerts gave it to him….  That’s like saying Jett only won because Chase tucked the front too many times…. JFC people.  Then Vialle goes back and beats them at MXoN.  Give Tom the credit he’s earned as a 2 time WC.

Tom said last year that the AMA 250 class is no joke and he thinks stronger than MX2.

But, unless they race a series, we won’t know… I don’t like the results of a 1 off event used to claim who’s best…

 

NVA57 wrote:

People also make Tom out to be some sort of sand god with the whole "Southwick should be his" talk, while he's not.

People also make Tom out to be some sort of sand god with the whole "Southwick should be his" talk, while he's not.

Taddy wrote:

yes, that must be a joke. Dutch are the coolest and nicest people in Europe.