A Criminal Trial Begins Today

ToolMaker wrote:

Did anyone read this? "Prosecutors in New York have revealed what the other crime is that Donald Trump was allegedly trying to conceal when he was...

Did anyone read this?

"Prosecutors in New York have revealed what the other crime is that Donald Trump was allegedly trying to conceal when he was falsifying business records and they claim it was to unlawfully promote his candidacy. The fatal error is that the NY Statute they cite only applies to elections within the State of New York and not Federal Elections!

Trump was running for the federal office of President of the United States and not a State Office and therefore the premise of what the prosecution is trying to prove as the second crime used to get around the statute of limitations issue and to elevate this business records case to a felony must fail!"

ThatOneMXGuy wrote:

David Pecker (unfortunate name) testified under oath on Tuesday that he worked together with Donald Trump and Michael Cohen while he was at the National Enquirer...

David Pecker (unfortunate name) testified under oath on Tuesday that he worked together with Donald Trump and Michael Cohen while he was at the National Enquirer in a “catch and kill” scheme during the 2016 Presidential Election. According to Pecker’s sworn testimony, they would publish negative stories about all of Trump’s opponents, including Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Ben Carson in the primaries, and then Hillary Clinton in the general, and cover up negative stories about Donald Trump throughout the election season.

TeamGreen wrote:

Morning coffee observations… After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise...

Morning coffee observations…

After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise that All Things Orange Guy spell GUILTY no matter what the legal outcomes…well, we’ve gotta ask about him and his cadre…

How many of these dreamed up court cases do some of you need to see the obvious? 

Where’s the recognition of WHO is bringing these suits…& where…& why…? 

Why are they all coming to the courts just in time for the election?

What's it like to take everything the Biden administration says as the gospel during this hyper-partisan attack? (Oh, that’s right…even Fani Willis’s gang having their little Pow-Wows at the WH means nothing to y’all. But, no worries. You’re objective…because, you say so).

When does the reality of your failure to see what a shit show these last 3…goin’ on 4…years have been…when does that kick in? 

No worries, just go tune back to your MSNBCABCCBSNBCCNN coverage and get your latest talking points and act indignant as you tell us we’re all a bunch of Fox News followers. 

Hate. That’s all you’ve got. 

And, y’all are blinded by it 

And, for those that keep running on about “a civil discussion”? Just stop. You don’t want, you’ve never wanted, you don’t know how to have a civil discussion.

You want your Confirmation Bias and you want to rebroadcast or reprint or cut-n-paste the stuff you see and hear and read at your usual big government narrative sources; and, those that don’t agree with your downward spiral are, obviously, not ever going to be civil by your standards.

Here’s what I’ve actually taken notice of and have watched you, the so-called “civil discussion” types drag into your civil arguments…

People’s/other member’s families derogatorily 

Stated that you’re superior to a person with a GED(that one was priceless)

Can’t stop name-calling as you accuse others of…name calling  

Outright denial of anything that happens in these suits that’s a set-back to the narrative 

Argue against or ignore revelations against your position…from your own sources 

Call one guy a liar while the your guy is lying to your face 

Alas, as I’ve said of the lying, name-calling, multiple screen name creating hiders & our outright hypocritical finger pointing OP (he actually accuses others of having “Boner Accounts”) and let’s not forget the history here involving a certain member’s perma-ban/HOW a certain person got abolished from here and by whom…he can’t help himself….so, again…just like when I recall his many melt-downs in his “own world”…that even caused the demise of that little “asylum”…

We don’t have to make this shit up.

We’ve got pages of it right here. 

ThatOneMXGuy wrote:

Other witnesses, including Michael Cohen, will need to corroborate it. Which they seem likely to do so. His testimony lines up with what the prosecution team...

Other witnesses, including Michael Cohen, will need to corroborate it. Which they seem likely to do so. His testimony lines up with what the prosecution team is alleging and disputes everything the defendant has claimed. The Secret Service has begun making plans for how to protect the former President in the event he does serve prison time. Take that for what it’s worth. They have to prepare for everything of course, but I’d imagine they wouldn’t be doing so unless they really felt it had at least a decent possibility of happening.

ThatOneMXGuy wrote:

Other witnesses, including Michael Cohen, will need to corroborate it. Which they seem likely to do so. His testimony lines up with what the prosecution team...

Other witnesses, including Michael Cohen, will need to corroborate it. Which they seem likely to do so. His testimony lines up with what the prosecution team is alleging and disputes everything the defendant has claimed. The Secret Service has begun making plans for how to protect the former President in the event he does serve prison time. Take that for what it’s worth. They have to prepare for everything of course, but I’d imagine they wouldn’t be doing so unless they really felt it had at least a decent possibility of happening.

inflammable wrote:

And a congressman has put forth a bill to remove Secret Service protection for any that get convicted of a felony.  But you still believe none...

And a congressman has put forth a bill to remove Secret Service protection for any that get convicted of a felony. 

But you still believe none of this is politically driven. 

Anyone who has Secret Service protection, and gets convicted of a felony, should absolutely still have the Secret Service protection if they EVER had access to or knowledge of classified government info. 

concave ruts wrote:

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all...

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all the classified docs in the bathroom? He’s sold out everything he can - classic failed businessman move. 
 

see how the assertion game works TeamGED? 

concave ruts wrote:

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all...

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all the classified docs in the bathroom? He’s sold out everything he can - classic failed businessman move. 
 

see how the assertion game works TeamGED? 

inflammable wrote:

But I'm sure you believe Biden and his son are clean as a whistle. 

TeamGED - nice try, but typically sophomoric as per your usual posts. 

concave ruts wrote:

why are you deflecting to Biden? Who has the court case here and is potentially going to become a felon? 

TeamGreen wrote:

Morning coffee observations… After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise...

Morning coffee observations…

After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise that All Things Orange Guy spell GUILTY no matter what the legal outcomes…well, we’ve gotta ask about him and his cadre…

How many of these dreamed up court cases do some of you need to see the obvious? 

Where’s the recognition of WHO is bringing these suits…& where…& why…? 

Why are they all coming to the courts just in time for the election?

What's it like to take everything the Biden administration says as the gospel during this hyper-partisan attack? (Oh, that’s right…even Fani Willis’s gang having their little Pow-Wows at the WH means nothing to y’all. But, no worries. You’re objective…because, you say so).

When does the reality of your failure to see what a shit show these last 3…goin’ on 4…years have been…when does that kick in? 

No worries, just go tune back to your MSNBCABCCBSNBCCNN coverage and get your latest talking points and act indignant as you tell us we’re all a bunch of Fox News followers. 

Hate. That’s all you’ve got. 

And, y’all are blinded by it 

And, for those that keep running on about “a civil discussion”? Just stop. You don’t want, you’ve never wanted, you don’t know how to have a civil discussion.

You want your Confirmation Bias and you want to rebroadcast or reprint or cut-n-paste the stuff you see and hear and read at your usual big government narrative sources; and, those that don’t agree with your downward spiral are, obviously, not ever going to be civil by your standards.

Here’s what I’ve actually taken notice of and have watched you, the so-called “civil discussion” types drag into your civil arguments…

People’s/other member’s families derogatorily 

Stated that you’re superior to a person with a GED(that one was priceless)

Can’t stop name-calling as you accuse others of…name calling  

Outright denial of anything that happens in these suits that’s a set-back to the narrative 

Argue against or ignore revelations against your position…from your own sources 

Call one guy a liar while the your guy is lying to your face 

Alas, as I’ve said of the lying, name-calling, multiple screen name creating hiders & our outright hypocritical finger pointing OP (he actually accuses others of having “Boner Accounts”) and let’s not forget the history here involving a certain member’s perma-ban/HOW a certain person got abolished from here and by whom…he can’t help himself….so, again…just like when I recall his many melt-downs in his “own world”…that even caused the demise of that little “asylum”…

We don’t have to make this shit up.

We’ve got pages of it right here. 

concave ruts wrote:

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage...

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage of people agree with your takes outside of this echo chamber (why you keep losing elections). The reality that you are defending a criminal who paid hush money to porn stars, and had his lawyer cover it up. 

Every assertion you make over and over on this forum cannot be backed up with evidence, but a few of us are smart enough to call you out on it. These assertions are typical for MAGA nut like yourself - they are all projections and reveal that you truly have no clue if anything you say is valid as long as its for your team. You are the hyper-partisan hack. 

You parade all over this forum with name-calling and insults, yet when someone matches your energy you cant handle it. . Clearly living so rent free in your head for days now lmao. 

 

TeamGreen wrote:

Morning coffee observations… After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise...

Morning coffee observations…

After some time observing how and why this thread was created under obvious false pretenses and with the author’s known and standardized premise that All Things Orange Guy spell GUILTY no matter what the legal outcomes…well, we’ve gotta ask about him and his cadre…

How many of these dreamed up court cases do some of you need to see the obvious? 

Where’s the recognition of WHO is bringing these suits…& where…& why…? 

Why are they all coming to the courts just in time for the election?

What's it like to take everything the Biden administration says as the gospel during this hyper-partisan attack? (Oh, that’s right…even Fani Willis’s gang having their little Pow-Wows at the WH means nothing to y’all. But, no worries. You’re objective…because, you say so).

When does the reality of your failure to see what a shit show these last 3…goin’ on 4…years have been…when does that kick in? 

No worries, just go tune back to your MSNBCABCCBSNBCCNN coverage and get your latest talking points and act indignant as you tell us we’re all a bunch of Fox News followers. 

Hate. That’s all you’ve got. 

And, y’all are blinded by it 

And, for those that keep running on about “a civil discussion”? Just stop. You don’t want, you’ve never wanted, you don’t know how to have a civil discussion.

You want your Confirmation Bias and you want to rebroadcast or reprint or cut-n-paste the stuff you see and hear and read at your usual big government narrative sources; and, those that don’t agree with your downward spiral are, obviously, not ever going to be civil by your standards.

Here’s what I’ve actually taken notice of and have watched you, the so-called “civil discussion” types drag into your civil arguments…

People’s/other member’s families derogatorily 

Stated that you’re superior to a person with a GED(that one was priceless)

Can’t stop name-calling as you accuse others of…name calling  

Outright denial of anything that happens in these suits that’s a set-back to the narrative 

Argue against or ignore revelations against your position…from your own sources 

Call one guy a liar while the your guy is lying to your face 

Alas, as I’ve said of the lying, name-calling, multiple screen name creating hiders & our outright hypocritical finger pointing OP (he actually accuses others of having “Boner Accounts”) and let’s not forget the history here involving a certain member’s perma-ban/HOW a certain person got abolished from here and by whom…he can’t help himself….so, again…just like when I recall his many melt-downs in his “own world”…that even caused the demise of that little “asylum”…

We don’t have to make this shit up.

We’ve got pages of it right here. 

concave ruts wrote:

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage...

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage of people agree with your takes outside of this echo chamber (why you keep losing elections). The reality that you are defending a criminal who paid hush money to porn stars, and had his lawyer cover it up. 

Every assertion you make over and over on this forum cannot be backed up with evidence, but a few of us are smart enough to call you out on it. These assertions are typical for MAGA nut like yourself - they are all projections and reveal that you truly have no clue if anything you say is valid as long as its for your team. You are the hyper-partisan hack. 

You parade all over this forum with name-calling and insults, yet when someone matches your energy you cant handle it. . Clearly living so rent free in your head for days now lmao. 

 

TeamGreen wrote:

MAGA-nut Hyper-partisan hack  Ouch. More names. Cool.  Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are...

MAGA-nut

Hyper-partisan hack 

Ouch. More names. Cool. 

Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are for your reality and all things “rent free”. Consider this and open invitation for you to expand my education and/or lack there of.

Then there’s all those big words like “assertion”, “reality” and “energy”. 

Do you remember the last time you told me how I was less intelligent than you as implied by your “reality”; hence, your claims that I’m a GED certificate holder and that makes me intellectually inferior to you…which is obviously proven my your need to match my “energy”…because…I’m so inferior to your higher and more capable “energy”, right?  

Oh, wait a second!, did you say “Energy”?
Isn’t that a quantitative property?

Isn’t that Physics?
(Always remember: Follow The Science!)

Hmmmm…and you’re attempting to “match” my energy…to be equal to mine? 

Damn! Doesn’t that make me quantitatively superior? 

NICE! 

Next: we can go into “assertion”, “reality” or even expand into relativity if you’d like to go there…? I may not be as highly educated as you or Jethro Bodine; but, I do loves me some physics! 

Manny…uneducated; but, I be learning. 

concave ruts wrote:

why are you deflecting to Biden? Who has the court case here and is potentially going to become a felon? 

inflammable wrote:

Yeah, a court case that was created from other cases well past the statue of limitations. Don't you think there will be a lengthy appeals process...

Yeah, a court case that was created from other cases well past the statue of limitations. Don't you think there will be a lengthy appeals process?

Why don't you tell me why it would be such a great idea to remove Secret Service protection from anyone who has it and also had access to and knowledge of classified government info. 

Your's was the initial deflection - an attempt at a smart-ass comment that was only a dumb-ass comment. 

concave ruts huh? Guess it was your mom that inspired your username?

concave ruts wrote:

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the...

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the DA etc etc 

I’ll do the thinking for you on your second point.  The implication with removing secret service protections is that he would literally be in prison. Hope this helps. 
 

Your username doesn’t make much sense given that you keep getting burned

concave ruts wrote:

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all...

Don’t worry - he’s already sold all his secrets to the saudis through his little son in law Jared Kushner. Remember the $2b deal? Or all the classified docs in the bathroom? He’s sold out everything he can - classic failed businessman move. 
 

see how the assertion game works TeamGED? 

inflammable wrote:

But I'm sure you believe Biden and his son are clean as a whistle. 

TeamGED - nice try, but typically sophomoric as per your usual posts. 

concave ruts wrote:

why are you deflecting to Biden? Who has the court case here and is potentially going to become a felon? 

concave ruts wrote:

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage...

I'm happy for you that you have your little echo chamber safe space here to protect you from reality.  The reality that a very small percentage of people agree with your takes outside of this echo chamber (why you keep losing elections). The reality that you are defending a criminal who paid hush money to porn stars, and had his lawyer cover it up. 

Every assertion you make over and over on this forum cannot be backed up with evidence, but a few of us are smart enough to call you out on it. These assertions are typical for MAGA nut like yourself - they are all projections and reveal that you truly have no clue if anything you say is valid as long as its for your team. You are the hyper-partisan hack. 

You parade all over this forum with name-calling and insults, yet when someone matches your energy you cant handle it. . Clearly living so rent free in your head for days now lmao. 

 

TeamGreen wrote:

MAGA-nut Hyper-partisan hack  Ouch. More names. Cool.  Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are...

MAGA-nut

Hyper-partisan hack 

Ouch. More names. Cool. 

Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are for your reality and all things “rent free”. Consider this and open invitation for you to expand my education and/or lack there of.

Then there’s all those big words like “assertion”, “reality” and “energy”. 

Do you remember the last time you told me how I was less intelligent than you as implied by your “reality”; hence, your claims that I’m a GED certificate holder and that makes me intellectually inferior to you…which is obviously proven my your need to match my “energy”…because…I’m so inferior to your higher and more capable “energy”, right?  

Oh, wait a second!, did you say “Energy”?
Isn’t that a quantitative property?

Isn’t that Physics?
(Always remember: Follow The Science!)

Hmmmm…and you’re attempting to “match” my energy…to be equal to mine? 

Damn! Doesn’t that make me quantitatively superior? 

NICE! 

Next: we can go into “assertion”, “reality” or even expand into relativity if you’d like to go there…? I may not be as highly educated as you or Jethro Bodine; but, I do loves me some physics! 

Manny…uneducated; but, I be learning. 

concave ruts wrote:

Yikes man. Clearly the ramblings of a sane person... You can’t make this shit up! 

inflammable wrote:

But I'm sure you believe Biden and his son are clean as a whistle. 

TeamGED - nice try, but typically sophomoric as per your usual posts. 

concave ruts wrote:

why are you deflecting to Biden? Who has the court case here and is potentially going to become a felon? 

TeamGreen wrote:

It’s called a comparison. One President compared to another; hence, setting a precedent…but, he didn’t want to confuse you with the obvious difficulty in the closeness...

It’s called a comparison. One President compared to another; hence, setting a precedent…but, he didn’t want to confuse you with the obvious difficulty in the closeness of the spelling and enunciation of those 2 big words. 

And, we can all tell how you like them there big words! 

Comparison: As in your continuous angry mainstream news reported drivel about The Donald compared to what’s actually going on and who’s actually in the White House and supposedly running the county…

Then there’s one of your favorite other big words…

Deflection…

Yup! “Deflection”… and this is mentioned without “deflection”…as in your obsession to deflect via the need to try to tell others that you’re the smart guy in the room…so…versus you and your team constantly telling us how civil you are & how stupid we all are…well…you can just go read your own posts and get the point…oh, wait! 

No, actually, you obviously can’t.

We don’t have to make this shit up. You just keep doing it right in front of us. Even with your…

New screen-names…but, we know who you are by your same old angry name calling & same old angry fails.

So, please, keep trying to “match our energy”.

At this point, you’d do well to just try to discover some intellectual “potential energy” when it comes to these exchanges (btw, that’s more of that science stuff). 

I’m jus’ sayin’…(for posterity) 

TeamGreen wrote:

MAGA-nut Hyper-partisan hack  Ouch. More names. Cool.  Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are...

MAGA-nut

Hyper-partisan hack 

Ouch. More names. Cool. 

Again, no worries. I’ll jus’ sit back and let you show us all what a great representative you are for your reality and all things “rent free”. Consider this and open invitation for you to expand my education and/or lack there of.

Then there’s all those big words like “assertion”, “reality” and “energy”. 

Do you remember the last time you told me how I was less intelligent than you as implied by your “reality”; hence, your claims that I’m a GED certificate holder and that makes me intellectually inferior to you…which is obviously proven my your need to match my “energy”…because…I’m so inferior to your higher and more capable “energy”, right?  

Oh, wait a second!, did you say “Energy”?
Isn’t that a quantitative property?

Isn’t that Physics?
(Always remember: Follow The Science!)

Hmmmm…and you’re attempting to “match” my energy…to be equal to mine? 

Damn! Doesn’t that make me quantitatively superior? 

NICE! 

Next: we can go into “assertion”, “reality” or even expand into relativity if you’d like to go there…? I may not be as highly educated as you or Jethro Bodine; but, I do loves me some physics! 

Manny…uneducated; but, I be learning. 

concave ruts wrote:

Yikes man. Clearly the ramblings of a sane person... You can’t make this shit up! 

TeamGreen wrote:

Damn, talk about DEFLECTION. Wow. But, let’s go with Rambling. Sure…that’s it.  I’ve got Vital running in the background while my engineer & SolidWorks are sorting...

Damn, talk about DEFLECTION. Wow.

But, let’s go with Rambling. Sure…that’s it. 

I’ve got Vital running in the background while my engineer & SolidWorks are sorting something out for me…

But, I’m “rambling”. Got it. 

Damn, you really are The Smart Guy. 

Btw, Texan, that’s your original screen name(s)?

zookrider62! wrote:

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt...

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt him at all, agree/disagree?

zookrider62! wrote:

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt...

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt him at all, agree/disagree?

concave ruts wrote:

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the...

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the DA etc etc 

I’ll do the thinking for you on your second point.  The implication with removing secret service protections is that he would literally be in prison. Hope this helps. 
 

Your username doesn’t make much sense given that you keep getting burned

concave ruts wrote:

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the...

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the DA etc etc 

I’ll do the thinking for you on your second point.  The implication with removing secret service protections is that he would literally be in prison. Hope this helps. 
 

Your username doesn’t make much sense given that you keep getting burned

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

"Your username doesn’t make much sense given that you keep getting burned".

You know what inflammable means, right?

concave ruts wrote:

why are you deflecting to Biden? Who has the court case here and is potentially going to become a felon? 

inflammable wrote:

Yeah, a court case that was created from other cases well past the statue of limitations. Don't you think there will be a lengthy appeals process...

Yeah, a court case that was created from other cases well past the statue of limitations. Don't you think there will be a lengthy appeals process?

Why don't you tell me why it would be such a great idea to remove Secret Service protection from anyone who has it and also had access to and knowledge of classified government info. 

Your's was the initial deflection - an attempt at a smart-ass comment that was only a dumb-ass comment. 

concave ruts huh? Guess it was your mom that inspired your username?

concave ruts wrote:

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the...

The court will decide what is past the statute of limitations given the felonious nature of the charges, Trump leaving the state, Covid, delays from the DA etc etc 

I’ll do the thinking for you on your second point.  The implication with removing secret service protections is that he would literally be in prison. Hope this helps. 
 

Your username doesn’t make much sense given that you keep getting burned

zookrider62! wrote:

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt...

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt him at all, agree/disagree?

zookrider62! wrote:

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt...

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt him at all, agree/disagree?

OW38B wrote:

Only if true, I would never admit to something I did not do.

Bang trim, don't bang trim.......either way does not matter to me.

zookrider62! wrote:

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt...

slightly more on topic. If Trump came out and said, yeah I slept with a porn star, I tend to believe it would not have hurt him at all, agree/disagree?

OW38B wrote:

Only if true, I would never admit to something I did not do.

Bang trim, don't bang trim.......either way does not matter to me.

concave ruts wrote:

so why did he pay the money then? that is established fact. His lawyer literally went to jail for it.