Illegal migrant from Venezuela is arrested for murder of UGA nursing student Laken Riley: Was released from CBP custody because of overcrowding

zookrider62! wrote:

Again, I don’t disagree at all, Biden’s border “policy” is a joke

but for the posters saying it wouldn’t happen under trump are wrong

Zycki11 wrote:

Your original point was different. Your first argument was why aren’t you crying about all murders, followed by your updated stance of Trumps policies allowed the...

Your original point was different. Your first argument was why aren’t you crying about all murders, followed by your updated stance of Trumps policies allowed the same. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The topics changed as did my posts   to summarize  yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal...

The topics changed as did my posts

 

to summarize 

yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal immigration is bad, and this helps push the agenda. They don’t post when someone commits a suicide and say “we need mental health reform, our government has blood on its hand”

they didn’t make these posts back in 2018/2019 when the same shit was happening, granted on a smaller scale

They don’t make posts when there’s mass murders, as it very much so goes against their agenda.

 

then the topic changed to trump wouldn’t let this happen. I pivoted with it, showing that yes it can, and did happen.

 

if you want to post about someone being murdered and your outrage over it, by all means, go for it. Just don’t only do it when it fits your agenda

zookrider62! wrote:

youre right, this NEVER would have happened under Trump.

Whoops

https://www.fox13seattle.com/washingtons-most-wanted/captured-murder-su…

 

TeamGreen wrote:

You really don't get it, do you? As usual...a shit show is happening right in front of you face... And...as I SAID YOU  WOULD... You've made...

You really don't get it, do you?

As usual...a shit show is happening right in front of you face...

And...as I SAID YOU  WOULD...

You've made it about The Donald.

You went and dug a deep hole of shit that made the VERY POINT I'd laid out FOUR HOURS AGO.

"Well, well, well...tell him what he;s won, Johnny!"

Well, he gets today's giant dose of..

YOU CAN NOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

Bwaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaa

zookrider62! wrote:

I didn’t draw your leader into this until y’all did, y’all claimed it wouldn’t happen under trump, but as the facts show, it did. try again...

I didn’t draw your leader into this until y’all did, y’all claimed it wouldn’t happen under trump, but as the facts show, it did.

try again, use more capitalized words next time 

 

again, the border needs fixing. But when we have posters saying the current president should be murdered because of this, let’s get a little more civilized, and a little more perspective 

Zycki11 wrote:

Your original point was different. Your first argument was why aren’t you crying about all murders, followed by your updated stance of Trumps policies allowed the...

Your original point was different. Your first argument was why aren’t you crying about all murders, followed by your updated stance of Trumps policies allowed the same. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The topics changed as did my posts   to summarize  yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal...

The topics changed as did my posts

 

to summarize 

yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal immigration is bad, and this helps push the agenda. They don’t post when someone commits a suicide and say “we need mental health reform, our government has blood on its hand”

they didn’t make these posts back in 2018/2019 when the same shit was happening, granted on a smaller scale

They don’t make posts when there’s mass murders, as it very much so goes against their agenda.

 

then the topic changed to trump wouldn’t let this happen. I pivoted with it, showing that yes it can, and did happen.

 

if you want to post about someone being murdered and your outrage over it, by all means, go for it. Just don’t only do it when it fits your agenda

Zycki11 wrote:

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they...

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they said. It is your turn to look in the mirror and understand. 

zookrider62! wrote:

but he is a criminal, he doesn't care if it's illegal to be here, he would still be here, time and time again.

TG130 wrote:

Yeah, but trash like that should not be here with invitations and blessings from our own government.

zookrider62! wrote:

So to be clear, we do think that policies/laws restrict crimes

 

want to make sure we have this straight for the next mass shooting thread

zookrider62! wrote:

now make a post about every other woman murdered while on a jog. Or are we only outraged when it's an illegal doing the murdering?

zookrider62! wrote:

now make a post about every other woman murdered while on a jog. Or are we only outraged when it's an illegal doing the murdering?

Zycki11 wrote:

Look again 

TG130 wrote:

Yeah, but trash like that should not be here with invitations and blessings from our own government.

zookrider62! wrote:

So to be clear, we do think that policies/laws restrict crimes

 

want to make sure we have this straight for the next mass shooting thread

OW38B wrote:

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here...

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here.

And "yall" is not a word that learned people use....it makes you sound like a hick. 

zookrider62! wrote:

So to be clear, we do think that policies/laws restrict crimes

 

want to make sure we have this straight for the next mass shooting thread

OW38B wrote:

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here...

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here.

And "yall" is not a word that learned people use....it makes you sound like a hick. 

zookrider62! wrote:

them's fighting words sir. You can insult me as much as you want, but you leave "y'all" out of it.

OW38B wrote:

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here...

If he was not allowed in the country, he would not have been in Georgia to commit the murder, that is what is being implied here.

And "yall" is not a word that learned people use....it makes you sound like a hick. 

zookrider62! wrote:

them's fighting words sir. You can insult me as much as you want, but you leave "y'all" out of it.

OW38B wrote:

I know it's a Texas thang.........but I stand by my statement.    FYI - My Grandmother was born and raised in Texas.

I know it's a Texas thang.........but I stand by my statement. 

 

FYI - My Grandmother was born and raised in Texas.

zookrider62! wrote:

The topics changed as did my posts   to summarize  yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal...

The topics changed as did my posts

 

to summarize 

yes, I still think the first few posters are fake outraged. They are posting because illegal immigration is bad, and this helps push the agenda. They don’t post when someone commits a suicide and say “we need mental health reform, our government has blood on its hand”

they didn’t make these posts back in 2018/2019 when the same shit was happening, granted on a smaller scale

They don’t make posts when there’s mass murders, as it very much so goes against their agenda.

 

then the topic changed to trump wouldn’t let this happen. I pivoted with it, showing that yes it can, and did happen.

 

if you want to post about someone being murdered and your outrage over it, by all means, go for it. Just don’t only do it when it fits your agenda

Zycki11 wrote:

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they...

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they said. It is your turn to look in the mirror and understand. 

zookrider62! wrote:

incorrect my friend Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect...

incorrect my friend

Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect. Both Loudlove and myself made the point that it did happen under Trump, and as stated numerous times, at a much lesser level. But this post here is what changed the conversation, if you feel there was another post that lead to this, feel free to call it out.

 

Zycki11 wrote:

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they...

Sorry mate, you kept changing your argument which changed the topic. Spade is a spade and in the past you held people accountable for what they said. It is your turn to look in the mirror and understand. 

zookrider62! wrote:

incorrect my friend Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect...

incorrect my friend

Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect. Both Loudlove and myself made the point that it did happen under Trump, and as stated numerous times, at a much lesser level. But this post here is what changed the conversation, if you feel there was another post that lead to this, feel free to call it out.

 

Honda Man 66 wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not have continued to come to the border knowing  they could not enter the U.S.  Isn’t it a bit ironic that when we have a shooting the first thing the democrats do is call for limitations and gun control for law abiding citizens. But when an illegal alien kills someone the democrats say nothing about securing the border. Total hypocrites. All of you. 

BigRedMachine wrote:

Here we go again, now a 2 year old has been killed by one of these illegal Assholes Salvadoran illegal immigrant arrested in connection to Maryland...

Here we go again, now a 2 year old has been killed by one of these illegal Assholes

Salvadoran illegal immigrant arrested in connection to Maryland murder of 2-year-old boy | Fox News

We have enough problems without having to deal with millions of Illegal Parasites invading America and killing us. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

vet323 wrote:

One big difference is that the right to bear arms without government infringement is actually in the US Constitution.  I don't see a right to immigration. ...

One big difference is that the right to bear arms without government infringement is actually in the US Constitution. 

I don't see a right to immigration. 

I'm not even taking a side here, just making a point. 

 

Honda Man 66 wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not have continued to come to the border knowing  they could not enter the U.S.  Isn’t it a bit ironic that when we have a shooting the first thing the democrats do is call for limitations and gun control for law abiding citizens. But when an illegal alien kills someone the democrats say nothing about securing the border. Total hypocrites. All of you. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

BigRedMachine wrote:

If some illegal criminal breaks into my house, he's going to have a bad day, because I have a Gun, A LOT! of Guns.  Why may...

If some illegal criminal breaks into my house, he's going to have a bad day, because I have a Gun, A LOT! of Guns.  Why may you ask, because I like them, I'm a law abiding American citizen and the 2nd Amendment says I can have them and in a Country with a lot of violent criminals running around with illegal guns, I don't want to fight one of these monsters with a Baseball bat, but would rather take the easy route and just ventilate um for threatening my family and myself with bodily harm.  Anyways! when Liberals decide to take crime seriously and prosecute violent armed criminals to the Fullest! extent of the law, then come talk to me about some sort of Gun control, until then and only when I feel confident that society is safe, I'm keeping my Guns. 

tomm55x wrote:

I think public hanging's for heinous crimes would be a good deterrent. 

George Costanza wrote:

Illegal Alien Crime Getting So Bad In NYC That Democrat Mayor Adams Wants To Modify Sanctuary Status New York City Democrat Mayor Eric Adams said this week...

Illegal Alien Crime Getting So Bad In NYC That Democrat Mayor Adams Wants To Modify Sanctuary Status

New York City Democrat Mayor Eric Adams said this week that illegal alien crime in the city is getting so bad, officials need to look at modifying the city’s sanctuary status so that local law enforcement can cooperate with federal immigration officials to deport violent criminals.

“We should not be allowing people who are repeatedly committing crimes to remain here and we cannot collaborate with ICE in the process,” Adams said on Monday. “Those who are committing crimes, we need to modify the sanctuary city law. If you commit a felony, a violent act, we should be able to turn you over to ICE and have you deported.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/illegal-alien-crime-getting-so-bad-in-ny…

^^ Biden did that^^

 

zookrider62! wrote:

incorrect my friend Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect...

incorrect my friend

Page 2 is when Honda Man brought up that if Trump was president, this wouldn't have happened, which we have established is incorrect. Both Loudlove and myself made the point that it did happen under Trump, and as stated numerous times, at a much lesser level. But this post here is what changed the conversation, if you feel there was another post that lead to this, feel free to call it out.

 

Honda Man 66 wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not have continued to come to the border knowing  they could not enter the U.S.  Isn’t it a bit ironic that when we have a shooting the first thing the democrats do is call for limitations and gun control for law abiding citizens. But when an illegal alien kills someone the democrats say nothing about securing the border. Total hypocrites. All of you. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

Honda Man 66 wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less. You see, he had the border mostly secured. Illegal immigrants would not have continued to come to the border knowing  they could not enter the U.S.  Isn’t it a bit ironic that when we have a shooting the first thing the democrats do is call for limitations and gun control for law abiding citizens. But when an illegal alien kills someone the democrats say nothing about securing the border. Total hypocrites. All of you. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

Lucas Windham wrote:

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves...

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves. That comes with a trade-off at times. What does letting illegals in get us besides more reasons to fight for our guns? There is at least some logic whether you believe it or not around gun control. Not see any logic in what's going on at the border. Are we supposed to wait for the cops to show up when bad shit happens? Or trust our government to protect us when the are letting killers into the country?  Two separate issues that you are trying to get a gotcha on. 

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

Lucas Windham wrote:

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves...

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves. That comes with a trade-off at times. What does letting illegals in get us besides more reasons to fight for our guns? There is at least some logic whether you believe it or not around gun control. Not see any logic in what's going on at the border. Are we supposed to wait for the cops to show up when bad shit happens? Or trust our government to protect us when the are letting killers into the country?  Two separate issues that you are trying to get a gotcha on. 

zookrider62! wrote:

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law so if you say you...

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law

so if you say you want stricter borders, I can say, it won't do any good because criminals will break the law

 

whether you think your gun protects you, or trusting the government is a good idea or not, or if stricter borders are good or bad, is completely irrelevant. The argument is strictly, do laws detract criminals?

zookrider62! wrote:

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have...

The probability for this to happen under Trump would have been a lot less

agreed! if your first post would have said this, we would have 2 less pages on this thread.

 

Total hypocrites. All of you. 

holy shit chief, I made the exact opposite point on page 2

Guns = republicans = laws dont matter!!!!

immigration = democrats = laws dont matter!!!

 

it's almost like both sides pick and choose when it fits their agenda

big if true.

 

Lucas Windham wrote:

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves...

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves. That comes with a trade-off at times. What does letting illegals in get us besides more reasons to fight for our guns? There is at least some logic whether you believe it or not around gun control. Not see any logic in what's going on at the border. Are we supposed to wait for the cops to show up when bad shit happens? Or trust our government to protect us when the are letting killers into the country?  Two separate issues that you are trying to get a gotcha on. 

zookrider62! wrote:

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law so if you say you...

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law

so if you say you want stricter borders, I can say, it won't do any good because criminals will break the law

 

whether you think your gun protects you, or trusting the government is a good idea or not, or if stricter borders are good or bad, is completely irrelevant. The argument is strictly, do laws detract criminals?

Lucas Windham wrote:

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves...

The problem with the Gun control issue vs the migrant issues is that a lot of us believe it or not want guns to protect ourselves. That comes with a trade-off at times. What does letting illegals in get us besides more reasons to fight for our guns? There is at least some logic whether you believe it or not around gun control. Not see any logic in what's going on at the border. Are we supposed to wait for the cops to show up when bad shit happens? Or trust our government to protect us when the are letting killers into the country?  Two separate issues that you are trying to get a gotcha on. 

zookrider62! wrote:

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law so if you say you...

the issue is, that pro-gun folks say that taking away fire-arms wont do any good because criminals will break the law

so if you say you want stricter borders, I can say, it won't do any good because criminals will break the law

 

whether you think your gun protects you, or trusting the government is a good idea or not, or if stricter borders are good or bad, is completely irrelevant. The argument is strictly, do laws detract criminals?

inflammable wrote:

But the statistics you posted clearly show that stricter borders lead to less crime...