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Some of you are completely disregarding the overall picture of where WSX stands and are only looking at the Australian event.
WSX would be on to something if they could replicate this race in UK, Germany, Spain, Brazil, UAE, Japan. But they clearly can't manage to do it.
Then add the other weirdness (cancelled rounds, lashing out on normal journalistic work, straight up lying about the minimum acceptable standards for an event etc.) and the result is that people and even riders/teams are fed up with it.
True. And no one is denying any of this…
It’s year 2, let’s revisit this thread in year 5 if it’s around that long. For me, the championship feels like it’s in a better spot in some ways and a worse spot in others when compared to last year.
I choose to be positive because literally the only way to get any decent racers to Australia is a gamble by the promoters and seeing the MASSIVE talent increase from Aus to WSX rounds shows that the WSX rider pool is world class (outside of the tip of the American spear) and provides exciting racing.
The level of the non paid to play riders at Paris SX was far lower overall than WSX Melbourne. This is THE second highest level standard of Supercross riders in the world, second by a long way but second nevertheless.
I was very positive from day one and the first piloting season. But this years shitshow has been too much. The fact that they got angry at Lewis for doing his job at Abu Dhabi was the nail in the coffin for me.
I'm just disappointed that they haven't been able to do thing better when the potential is there.
That’s crap mate, hope he is healing ok!
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I wonder how much, if any, the WSX boys connected with the Bercy or Geneva and German/French championship promoters to see if they could incorporate their races into an “Instant” world championship.
The Aussie round was better done, no doubt. One wonders how much that had to do with being at home and not dealing with the fly away logistics etc.
Did the Paris supercross have a bigger arena than other WSX event or why did it look better? ( I think it did! ).
Aussie round was also Ok, but all the other WSX events looked very Arenacross and like a amateur show so I didn't care to watch, except for some quick youbtube recap.
I think size of track/simililarity to US supercross tracks is key to keep up some sort of standard.
Paris is almost half the capacity
30,000 max seating in paris
56,000 max seating in Melbourne.
Anaheim is 45,000 with no roof. Paris and Melbourne have a roof.
Joey did say "bring on the chaos" in the presser, I guess Vince watched......
A little emotional about everything aren't you....
Exactly, i guess no other mx sx forums for him to post. Calling americans whiney. Ironic.
The Stadium in Paris was sold out! The Promoter doesn't need a FIM Status! In my Opinion the WSX is a dead Horse!
SX Global has been trying to convince Larivière Organisation that Paris needs WSX for two years.
Up till now, the Paris team is obviously still wondering what Bailey & friends would bring to the table.
55000 fans (on two days) got to see Roczen, the Lawrence Bros, Webb, Shimoda, Vialle...
They're obviously doing fine on their own.
Melbourne WSX on FS2 right now
"It was freaking awesome"
Australia really is in another solar system.
Classic Vital.
a guy goes to an event with his son as earlier stated, and has a great time, yet someone has to chip in and basically say that he shouldn’t have had such a good time, core fans know it’s not a good enough event blah blah blah.
Read the post again. That is what being a fan is all about. Enthusiastic about the action and the riders, giving kudos to some of top talent that came out.
Aaryn never made any claims about it being better than an AMA SX. He just loved his night sharing his passion with his son.
Some people need to relax, and just take things as they are.
I do understand why some people don’t rate the event and/or championship, but I don’t understand why some people need to go full Internet Karen and keep complaining about it.
There are plenty of events around the world that I don’t particularly care for, but I just don’t watch or pay attention. I have never felt the need to jump online and tell people that they shouldn’t be enjoying it, point out everything wrong with it etc.
I find it odd that some people seemingly both want the sport to grow, yet also appear to wish a venture which is attempting to grow the sport into new markets to fail.
people calling Bailey a “snake oil salesman” have no doubt never met the man.
Listen to how the riders speak about him, he is well liked, he appears to treat the athletes well. The championship has a lot of areas to improve on, and it’s clearly a very difficult challenge. But personally I would rather support a venture like this which has the potential to make more riders and team members some $$$, and allow more people to see the sport we all love.
or we can just bitch about the sport being to small, but also want nothing to change, and the sport to stay largely regionalized.
That's absolute bs.
Everybody knows we French are the world champions of whining.
BTW, I don't see how calling WSX what it is (a joke, a fraud, a parody, a circus, holiday on ice...) makes anyone a whiner.
The part I respectfully disagree on is the “(a joke, a fraud, a parody, a circus, holiday on ice...)”
Particularly the fraud part. To my knowledge they are paying teams as per their contracts. Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe so.
I do agree that things have not gone well, however my view is that almost all start ups go through this phase. It’s certainly true in the industry I work in. Startups often look janky compared to legacy organizations in the early days, usually they fail, but if they make it work, they can succeed in a way that can be fantastic.
Truth be told, trying to start a world supercross championship is obviously extremely difficult. Logistically alone it is on another level to what Feld has to do, and they need to do it with much smaller resources than Feld has.
The one aspect of WSX I truly believe is the best avenue forward is paying the teams, it is the business model for most of the top Motorsports. And in Matthes’ interview with Adam Bailey, Bailey highlighted that he would like to investigate going to a more performance based payment. I think that is absolutely the right model. Repay teams for investing in their programs and riders.
To summarize, I don’t think WSX has gone well so far, however in the past they have ran very successful stand alone events. IMO there is a market, and I do like their model and goals. I hope they make it work, if not, it’s not the end of the world. If they do, we all benefit, teams, riders, industry and fans.
Have a good one gents.
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If crowning a double "world champion" (hired directly by the promoter in total disregard for his own equity rules) after five races in two years is not a fraud, I don't know what is.
Clearly they have wanted to do more.
Trying and failing is not the same as fraud.
I think people are putting too much stock in the “world championship” part.
Everyone knows it’s not the premier championship, but they bought the rights to use that title, it would be bad business not to sell it.
It’s hard to start a championship in a niche sport that sends hundreds of people around the world, using very expensive stadiums, with very expensive set up costs and very expensive machinery.
Who knew? 😂 did anyone really think it was going to be smooth sailing?
It seemed pretty smooth sailing in January, according to SX Global's dithyrambic marketing bs...
“It’s incredibly gratifying to see our vision for a truly global supercross championship steadily coming to fruition,” SX Global CEO Adam Bailey said. “Our goals, while ambitious, are clear to elevate supercross to a global audience through a truly international calendar of events, visit diverse destinations that have well-established and passionate fan bases, and visit new regions where supercross can grow and flourish. We believe the 2023 schedule delivers on these promises, yet it’s only the tip of the spear. We have so much more room for growth in regions across the globe that are hungry to witness this incredible spectacle, firsthand. We are only scratching the surface of our long-term plan for WSX.”
That's for sure, Adam, you barely scratched the surface.
Killed it. My buddy is his mechanic when he’s state side. The wests are dam good people
What do you expect to be in a press release from a start up company trying to attract investors, customers and sponsors? 😂
if it were your company, with your money and livelihood on the line, what would you write?
A little less overpromising bs, which tends to be SX Global's specialty.
They'd better concentrate on delivering.
I’m assuming it’s national pride that has you coming to Bailey’s defense…the facts are his original partners have left him, the original investors have left him to be replaced by a politician from Uruguay and some rich mans son from France. He has made bold claims and acted as if the US outdoor series didn’t exist…he has canceled races without ever announcing the cancelations in both seasons! Now that he has come to the conclusion that his series is better off as a fall series and he has the absolute debacle of a race in Abu Dhabi where the riders that you claim love him, totally slammed the track, the series and the venue…and what does Bailey do? Signs a long term deal to go back to that tiny arena for multiple years…My post was about how much better Eric P was at this than Bailey as he continues to make bad decisions….just wait til next year as he won’t be able to pay the same to the teams and/or riders with whatever way he decides…That is when you will see teams and riders leave the series…And lets not forget how he slammed Lewis for how he portrayed the Abu Dhabi round when all he did was interview the riders who were the ones that slammed it…but yet he’s still out there on social media asking the fans about the two row start when the riders clearly said no…I think the series has the ability to succeed as a fall series but not with Bailey at the helm…and why I call him a snake oil salesman….well he’s got you sold…
Do you know who the rich mans son is and his assets ?
Yeah he owns a football team...so what...Cochran took Aus super cars worldwide and everyone said at the time of his involvement that WSX couldn't fail because of him and his experience....
the line that Cochrane made Supercars successful overseas is bullshit
V8 Supercars failed in every overseas location except New Zealand , and the Aussie touring cars had been successful in Nz previous to them becoming Supercars
Lewis was slammed because every question he asked was phrased as ‘hey that track was pretty bad hey?’ — I don’t agreee with the slamming at all but it was also clear he didn’t just ask the rider what they thought so no need to misrepresent it
I think you missed this....
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/reviewing-wsxs-second-event-vital-mx-e…
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