ISDE 2023 Argentina

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11/8/2023 2:07pm

I haven’t followed the world enduro scene for a few years but it certainly seems like the US off-road riders have caught up to the Europeans.  For a long time they just weren’t competitive at the ISDE.

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11/8/2023 2:23pm
ando wrote:
I haven’t followed the world enduro scene for a few years but it certainly seems like the US off-road riders have caught up to the Europeans...

I haven’t followed the world enduro scene for a few years but it certainly seems like the US off-road riders have caught up to the Europeans.  For a long time they just weren’t competitive at the ISDE.

Yeah buddy!

The US Team has put a lot more emphasis the last 10-15 years or so, this was originally spearheaded by Kurt Caselli (RIP old friend) and Antti from KTM has been a huge driving force behind it too.

We have a lot more organization, support and frankly thought put into stuff than we did back in the old days.  The number one thing we did to improve though was start hand selecting the Trophy Team to ensure we send our fastest guys.  We used to select from guys who did our "Qualifier Series" which often times overlapped with series' that the Factory Guys were paid to race so we would end up with some dudes who weren't the best we had to offer.

We won the Trophy Team category in 2016 and 2019 and were a few bad breaks from winning it once or twice more....but that's the name of the game at 6 Days!

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11/8/2023 2:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/8/2023 2:31pm

Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it. 
 

Cole Martinez is one of my best friends, was my best man in my wedding this year. We’ve been through a whole lot together. He made a decent career in Supercross/motocross with minimal support during his amateur and pro days, but had a string of horrendous injuries that ended his SX career. 
 

He decided to pursue off-road as he had raced a bit when he was a kid and grew up riding with Taylor Robert in AZ. We begged and borrowed around the industry and SLR gave us a beat to shit practice bike to use for the WORCS round in Taft 2019. We did our best to freshen it up, had no understanding of the pit/fuel situation, we just winged it. He ran in a podium position until the second to last lap, where he was DQ’ed (over some BS, but that’s another story).

That race was October 12th 2019 - it’s pretty unreal to think 4 years later he’s running top 10 with the best in the world in Argentina, and could very well be an ISDE champion. Cole is a great father, husband and friend - he’s put a lot of work into himself to be a good man and I’m damn proud to call him a friend. 

I really, really hope the boys can take this home 🙏🏻 

The beater before practice for his first off-road race in 2019 

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Myself, Coles daughter and Cole before my wedding in February 

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11/8/2023 2:55pm

US teams are doing really well. Watching the tests I can’t imagine how many air filters they are going through. Hopefully who ever is doing oil for the Team they have good air filter oil. I went through a ton of filters in Brazil. 

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11/8/2023 3:00pm
Ake27 wrote:
US teams are doing really well. Watching the tests I can’t imagine how many air filters they are going through. Hopefully who ever is doing oil...

US teams are doing really well. Watching the tests I can’t imagine how many air filters they are going through. Hopefully who ever is doing oil for the Team they have good air filter oil. I went through a ton of filters in Brazil. 

I was thinking about that too, I bet the Trophy guys are getting a new filter at every fuel stop.

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11/9/2023 1:05am

Great to see the Brits up there again. The conditions out there will be the polar opposite to what they're used to lol. We were pretty average till recent years but there's a good crop of great riders that have come through over the last few years. Wish our mx talent pool was as strong..

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11/9/2023 9:31am Edited Date/Time 11/9/2023 9:32am

Seems like another good day for the Americans. Taylor, Johnny and Dante all in the top 6 for the day, and Mateo in 17th. Solid solid day once again. Josep seems to be taking over the individual standings. They haven't posted overall team results just yet. 

 

Great ride by the Brits as well, with 3 riders in the top 10. They should be second on the day from the looks of it. 

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Local ohio boy Trevor Maley is there representing on the junior side. Hes a bad ass that puts in the work. You wouldn't believe what it costs these kids to go. 

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11/9/2023 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2023 12:24pm

11 minute lead for the US Boys headed into the last off road day.  Sounds like Cole Martinez had a slight mechanical today but kept his shit together and kept it rolling, that's the name of the game at ISDE.  Good on Cole.

Day 4 recap from Enduro 21: https://enduro21.com/en/racing/latest/isde/2023-isde-results-day-four-d…

France, Great Britain and Italy are in an absolute dog fight for the remaining podium spots.  Pretty cool!

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11/9/2023 12:39pm

Anyone know what happened to T. Medaglia?

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11/9/2023 12:59pm
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Anyone know what happened to T. Medaglia?

He tipped over in a transfer and put a stick through his hand! 

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11/9/2023 1:01pm
Ake27 wrote:
US teams are doing really well. Watching the tests I can’t imagine how many air filters they are going through. Hopefully who ever is doing oil...

US teams are doing really well. Watching the tests I can’t imagine how many air filters they are going through. Hopefully who ever is doing oil for the Team they have good air filter oil. I went through a ton of filters in Brazil. 

LungButter wrote:

I was thinking about that too, I bet the Trophy guys are getting a new filter at every fuel stop.

I raced in Italy in 2021 (dusty, but not nearly as bad) and I got a new air filter at every single time control. 6 filters a day. Every single one came out filthy. 

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He tipped over in a transfer and put a stick through his hand! 

Damnit

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11/9/2023 2:54pm
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Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it.    Cole Martinez is one...

Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it. 
 

Cole Martinez is one of my best friends, was my best man in my wedding this year. We’ve been through a whole lot together. He made a decent career in Supercross/motocross with minimal support during his amateur and pro days, but had a string of horrendous injuries that ended his SX career. 
 

He decided to pursue off-road as he had raced a bit when he was a kid and grew up riding with Taylor Robert in AZ. We begged and borrowed around the industry and SLR gave us a beat to shit practice bike to use for the WORCS round in Taft 2019. We did our best to freshen it up, had no understanding of the pit/fuel situation, we just winged it. He ran in a podium position until the second to last lap, where he was DQ’ed (over some BS, but that’s another story).

That race was October 12th 2019 - it’s pretty unreal to think 4 years later he’s running top 10 with the best in the world in Argentina, and could very well be an ISDE champion. Cole is a great father, husband and friend - he’s put a lot of work into himself to be a good man and I’m damn proud to call him a friend. 

I really, really hope the boys can take this home 🙏🏻 

The beater before practice for his first off-road race in 2019 

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Myself, Coles daughter and Cole before my wedding in February 

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Agreed man. So cool to see Cole and Taylor who I grew up racing with and together doing well here. Fingers crossed they hold it to the end!

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11/9/2023 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2023 3:13pm

What is the story with Holcombe and Freeman not riding for GB?

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11/9/2023 3:31pm
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What is the story with Holcombe and Freeman not riding for GB?

Pretty sure Beta doesn't want to spend the budget to support it. 

GB is doing awesome anyway, they'd be a fricken force with those 2 on the team.

11/9/2023 3:40pm
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Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it.    Cole Martinez is one...

Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it. 
 

Cole Martinez is one of my best friends, was my best man in my wedding this year. We’ve been through a whole lot together. He made a decent career in Supercross/motocross with minimal support during his amateur and pro days, but had a string of horrendous injuries that ended his SX career. 
 

He decided to pursue off-road as he had raced a bit when he was a kid and grew up riding with Taylor Robert in AZ. We begged and borrowed around the industry and SLR gave us a beat to shit practice bike to use for the WORCS round in Taft 2019. We did our best to freshen it up, had no understanding of the pit/fuel situation, we just winged it. He ran in a podium position until the second to last lap, where he was DQ’ed (over some BS, but that’s another story).

That race was October 12th 2019 - it’s pretty unreal to think 4 years later he’s running top 10 with the best in the world in Argentina, and could very well be an ISDE champion. Cole is a great father, husband and friend - he’s put a lot of work into himself to be a good man and I’m damn proud to call him a friend. 

I really, really hope the boys can take this home 🙏🏻 

The beater before practice for his first off-road race in 2019 

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Myself, Coles daughter and Cole before my wedding in February 

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MXRACER428 wrote:
Agreed man. So cool to see Cole and Taylor who I grew up racing with and together doing well here. Fingers crossed they hold it to...

Agreed man. So cool to see Cole and Taylor who I grew up racing with and together doing well here. Fingers crossed they hold it to the end!

X3! My son grew up teaching in AZ and trained with Taylor a few times and Cole is such a good dude. Surprised,  but not shocked, that Taylor is retiring after this. Hopefully he brings home a W as a parting gift!

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X3! My son grew up teaching in AZ and trained with Taylor a few times and Cole is such a good dude. Surprised,  but not shocked...

X3! My son grew up teaching in AZ and trained with Taylor a few times and Cole is such a good dude. Surprised,  but not shocked, that Taylor is retiring after this. Hopefully he brings home a W as a parting gift!

I'm REALLY hoping he can win his Final Moto and go out on top!

I had some hope before the race he could contend for the individual overall but I knew that would be a tall order with his lack of racing this year....plus Garcia and Verona are aliens.

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Day 4 report from Enduro 21: https://enduro21.com/en/racing/latest/isde/2023-isde-results-day-five-d…

Most of the battles are settled at this point barring any disasters in the final Moto tomorrow.

Damn blazing fast Swedes kept the US from having a clean sweep of everything.

That young Aussie gal must be on the gas! 

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11/10/2023 11:37am
dcg141 wrote:

What is the story with Holcombe and Freeman not riding for GB?

LungButter wrote:
Pretty sure Beta doesn't want to spend the budget to support it.  GB is doing awesome anyway, they'd be a fricken force with those 2 on...

Pretty sure Beta doesn't want to spend the budget to support it. 

GB is doing awesome anyway, they'd be a fricken force with those 2 on the team.

They were all in last year  so you can understand, don't think any Sherco factory guys are there either...  Figures around the £150k mark is what its cost to get team GB out there this year.... container will be gone six months with bikes in... And there is no where near the kind of support Team USA gets from KTM US.. its a chalk and cheese kinda deal.

I think an impending seat reshuffle will not have helped with their commitment either.

This race was USA's to loose. Antti picked good team, based on the west coast, its just like being in the Desert at home.... nothing in the uk comes close to the conditions in San Juan.... Pleased for Taylor to go out on top.... Always been a cool guy when I've been in his company.....

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11/10/2023 11:41am
MXRACER428 wrote:
Agreed man. So cool to see Cole and Taylor who I grew up racing with and together doing well here. Fingers crossed they hold it to...

Agreed man. So cool to see Cole and Taylor who I grew up racing with and together doing well here. Fingers crossed they hold it to the end!

Dang, didn't know you were on here Tyler. Hope all is well!

One closer to taking this home, fingers crossed for the boys!!

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11/10/2023 11:50am
Kyle978 wrote:
Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it.    Cole Martinez is one...

Man, I’ve not wanted to post in this thread because I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but fuck it. 
 

Cole Martinez is one of my best friends, was my best man in my wedding this year. We’ve been through a whole lot together. He made a decent career in Supercross/motocross with minimal support during his amateur and pro days, but had a string of horrendous injuries that ended his SX career. 
 

He decided to pursue off-road as he had raced a bit when he was a kid and grew up riding with Taylor Robert in AZ. We begged and borrowed around the industry and SLR gave us a beat to shit practice bike to use for the WORCS round in Taft 2019. We did our best to freshen it up, had no understanding of the pit/fuel situation, we just winged it. He ran in a podium position until the second to last lap, where he was DQ’ed (over some BS, but that’s another story).

That race was October 12th 2019 - it’s pretty unreal to think 4 years later he’s running top 10 with the best in the world in Argentina, and could very well be an ISDE champion. Cole is a great father, husband and friend - he’s put a lot of work into himself to be a good man and I’m damn proud to call him a friend. 

I really, really hope the boys can take this home 🙏🏻 

The beater before practice for his first off-road race in 2019 

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Myself, Coles daughter and Cole before my wedding in February 

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Awesome man that’s a cool story!! Hope he gets a good ride out of this great 6 day ride!!

Off road seems to be a better fit for a family man too I think. 

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11/10/2023 12:12pm
Awesome man that’s a cool story!! Hope he gets a good ride out of this great 6 day ride!! Off road seems to be a better...

Awesome man that’s a cool story!! Hope he gets a good ride out of this great 6 day ride!!

Off road seems to be a better fit for a family man too I think. 

He's already on the Factory Honda off road team.

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11/10/2023 1:00pm
Mr. Ted wrote:
X3! My son grew up teaching in AZ and trained with Taylor a few times and Cole is such a good dude. Surprised,  but not shocked...

X3! My son grew up teaching in AZ and trained with Taylor a few times and Cole is such a good dude. Surprised,  but not shocked, that Taylor is retiring after this. Hopefully he brings home a W as a parting gift!

Taylor has had some pretty bad injuries, but the one from last year at one of the Utah National Hare and Hound races was pretty horrific.  The club hadn't marked a huge ditch near one of the fast turns, and he slammed himself in the abdomen so hard when he hit the turn, resulting in multiple tears to his intestines, and at least two surgeries.  I think he got down under 120 lbs, so he was just wasting away.  To come back from that and ride at the level he is at is pretty legendary.  I think if he had avoided the desert racing his career would've been way longer, but he will retire as an absolute legend at the top....

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US club teams 1,2 and 4th. Pretty impressive, Surratt and Toth killed the final Club Moto. Women, Juniors and Trophy up next. 

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11/11/2023 12:43pm

Hell of a showing for the US!

Gutted for the Swedish Juniors. They had that on lock until the Fantic locked up. 

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11/11/2023 12:48pm

Great riding by the US!

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