How bad is the rain in Cali?

Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 3:04pm
Just checked the weather forecast and it looks downright nasty! What is the deal? Is it as bad as it seems? Are we in for a disaster this sat? This could throw a huge curve ball into the standings if it is going to be as bad as it seems. They are reporting up to 20 inches by this friday. If we got the equivalent precipitation of snow where I'm at, no one would be able to move for two days!
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1/19/2010 9:18am
It rained pretty good Sunday night into Monday afternoon. There's supposed to be another (smaller) storm today, and then the biggest one of the week into Thurday.

The track should be bagged and tagged, but we'll see it Thursday at A2's press day.
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1/19/2010 9:19am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2010 9:20am
Its gonna be tough for them to even build the track with all the rain. They are calling for flood warnings this week! I expect major track changes from the original version. Too bad, A2 track map looks really good.
1/19/2010 9:22am
i heard the track is already built and covered, the rain isnt bad today...actually it hasnt rained as of yet today. yesterday was pretty bad though
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1/19/2010 9:22am
Orange County was one of the hardest hit areas yesterday. Lots of collapsed roofs, heavy flooding, cars almost completely covered in rain, etc.....and the worst is supposedly yet to come.

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1/19/2010 9:25am
Yikes! That can't be good. It will provide some great theatre come sat though! Try to keep us posted throughout the week. Its one thing to read a forecast, its another to have someone there to tell you what is really going on.
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bents wrote:
Yikes! That can't be good. It will provide some great theatre come sat though! Try to keep us posted throughout the week. Its one thing to...
Yikes! That can't be good. It will provide some great theatre come sat though! Try to keep us posted throughout the week. Its one thing to read a forecast, its another to have someone there to tell you what is really going on.
The bad part about SoCal is that we arent really used to getting heavy downpours....especially a weeks worth at a time, so all the drainage systems become overwhelmed and back up really bad, causing flooding and other problems. Then we have all the hills that are burned up during fire season and they all come sliding down when these rains hit......causing LOTS of damage.
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1/19/2010 9:31am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2010 10:04am
So Cal rain disaster reporting....
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1/19/2010 9:32am
As if the traffic there isnt bad enough! Sad
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Racer92 wrote:
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Who would shoot such a photo? o: )
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As if the traffic there isnt bad enough! Sad
I live literally 10 minutes from my work.......last night it took me over 2 hours to get home. No exaggeration.
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1/19/2010 9:37am
It was pretty intense for a brief period yesterday, of course everyone around here forgets how to drive in the rain... It took about an hour for me to drive 12 miles from Long Beach.

The "Santa Ana River" in all it's glory passes right by my house before it dumps all the water...eh I mean shopping carts and trash into the Pacific. It's the same 'stream' that passes by the stadium 10 miles up 'river'... I took a video of it yesterday, It was gross. It's amazing what slobs we are, flush the entire IE and OC toilet right into the ocean.
1/19/2010 9:41am
SMITH201 wrote:
As if the traffic there isnt bad enough! Sad
Torco1 wrote:
I live literally 10 minutes from my work.......last night it took me over 2 hours to get home. No exaggeration.
Holy shit! I hope you make A LOT of money to do what you do, b/c I would go insane!! That is just painful. From my house to downtown in traffic-16 minutes. From my place to downtown during rush hour-20 minutes. And even that pisses me off! I had one experience in so cal traffic, and that was almost 35 years ago and it was absolutely brutal then. Can't imagine what it is like now.
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zjbell wrote:
It was pretty intense for a brief period yesterday, of course everyone around here forgets how to drive in the rain... It took about an hour...
It was pretty intense for a brief period yesterday, of course everyone around here forgets how to drive in the rain... It took about an hour for me to drive 12 miles from Long Beach.

The "Santa Ana River" in all it's glory passes right by my house before it dumps all the water...eh I mean shopping carts and trash into the Pacific. It's the same 'stream' that passes by the stadium 10 miles up 'river'... I took a video of it yesterday, It was gross. It's amazing what slobs we are, flush the entire IE and OC toilet right into the ocean.
It been a while since we've had a good ol' "Santa Ana River rescue". Those use to happen every time we would get rains like this, somebody would think it would be a good idea to try and get close to the riverbed and the next thing they knew they are on a wild ride to the Pacific.
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1/19/2010 9:48am
SMITH201 wrote:
As if the traffic there isnt bad enough! Sad
Torco1 wrote:
I live literally 10 minutes from my work.......last night it took me over 2 hours to get home. No exaggeration.
bents wrote:
Holy shit! I hope you make A LOT of money to do what you do, b/c I would go insane!! That is just painful. From my...
Holy shit! I hope you make A LOT of money to do what you do, b/c I would go insane!! That is just painful. From my house to downtown in traffic-16 minutes. From my place to downtown during rush hour-20 minutes. And even that pisses me off! I had one experience in so cal traffic, and that was almost 35 years ago and it was absolutely brutal then. Can't imagine what it is like now.
Haha.....yeah right, I work in "The Industry" so the "a lot" of money theory goes right out the window. It usually only takes me 20 minutes to get home, but like zjbell said, people just dont know how to drive in the rain.
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1/19/2010 9:57am
You know it's raining pretty good here in socal when the local news sends the field reporter out in a snow parka and hip waders to stand in a puddle...lol.
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1/19/2010 10:01am
From a friend at NOAA,


An email I got this morning from a NOAA colleague:

Currently, the strong El Nino is reaching its peak in the Eastern Pacific, and now finally appears to be exerting an influence on our weather. The strong jet has been apparent for quite some time out over the open water, but the persistent block had prevented it from reaching the coast. Now that the block has dissolved completely, a 200+ kt jet is barreling towards us. Multiple large and powerful storm systems are expected to slam into CA from the west and northwest over the coming two weeks, all riding this extremely powerful jet stream directly into the state. The jet will itself provide tremendous dynamic lift, in addition to directing numerous disturbances right at the state and supplying them with an ample oceanic moisture source. The jet will be at quite a low latitude over much of the Pacific, so these storms will be quite cold, at least initially. Very heavy rainfall and strong to potentially very strong winds will impact the lower elevations beginning late Sunday and continuing through at least the following Sunday. This will be the case for the entire state, from (and south of) the Mexican border all the way up to Oregon. Above 3000-4000 feet, precipitation will be all snow, and since temperatures will be unusually cold for a precipitation event of this magnitude, a truly prodigious amount of snowfall is likely to occur in the mountains, possibly measured in the tens of feet in the Sierra after it's all said and done. But there's a big and rather threatening caveat to that (discussed below).Individual storm events are going to be hard to time for at least few more days, since this jet is just about as powerful as they come (on this planet, anyway). Between this Sunday and the following Sunday, I expect categorical statewide rainfall totals in excess of 3-4 inches. That is likely to be a huge underestimate for most areas. Much of NorCal is likely to see 5-10 inches in the lowlands, with 10-20 inches in orographically-favored areas. Most of SoCal will see 3-6 inches at lower elevations, with perhaps triple that amount in favored areas.

This is where things get even more interesting, though. The models are virtually unanimous in "reloading" the powerful jet stream and forming an additional persistent kink 2000-3000 miles to our southwest after next Sunday. This is a truly ominous pattern, because it implies the potential for a strong Pineapple-type connection to develop. Indeed, the 12z GFS now shows copious warm rains falling between days 12 and 16 across the entire state. Normally, such as scenario out beyond day seven would be dubious at best. Since the models are in such truly remarkable agreement, however, and because of the extremely high potential impact of such an event, it's worth mentioning now. Since there will be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very serious flooding. This situation will have to monitored closely. Even if the tropical connection does not develop, expected rains in the coming 7-10 days will likely be sufficient to cause flooding in and of themselves (even in spite of dry antecedent conditions).

In addition to very heavy precipitation, powerful winds may result from very steep pressure gradients associated with the large and deep low pressure centers expect ed to begin approaching the coast by early next week. Though it's not clear at the moment just how powerful these winds may be, there is certainly the potential for a widespread damaging wind event at some point, and the high Sierra peaks are likely to see gusts in the 100-200 mph range (since the 200kt jet at 200-300 mb will essentially run directly into the mountains at some point). The details of this will have to be hashed out as the event(s) draw closer.
In short, the next 2-3 weeks (at least) are likely to be more active across California than any other 2-3 week period in recent memory. The potential exists for a dangerous flood scenario to arise at some point during this interval, especially with the possibility of a heavy rain-on-snow event during late week 2. In some parts of Southern California, a whole season's worth of rain could fall over the course of 5-10 days. This is likely to be a rather memorable event. Stay tuned.
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1/19/2010 10:02am
As to "Which" storm is the nastiest (of the -3- storms due in Cali)...the storm that is currently hitting us in the North state is considerably Nastier than the storm that moved OUT yesterday.

The winds have knocked down trees and lines. Part of I-5 is closed in Redding.

If any of this same weather is hittin' SoCal(notably..."if"...the same amount of rain)...you are in for one serious Mud-Slide-Fest.

If the track is already covered...I hope they've got Drainage figured out (I've seen SF's SX track when it's been covered and the water still managed to screw-up the track due to lack of drainage...).

As to Traffic? No worries...I can walk to my Hotel from the Stadium!
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I love it.......the more the better.
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kkertzman wrote:
From a friend at NOAA, An email I got this morning from a NOAA colleague: Currently, the strong El Nino is reaching its peak in the...
From a friend at NOAA,


An email I got this morning from a NOAA colleague:

Currently, the strong El Nino is reaching its peak in the Eastern Pacific, and now finally appears to be exerting an influence on our weather. The strong jet has been apparent for quite some time out over the open water, but the persistent block had prevented it from reaching the coast. Now that the block has dissolved completely, a 200+ kt jet is barreling towards us. Multiple large and powerful storm systems are expected to slam into CA from the west and northwest over the coming two weeks, all riding this extremely powerful jet stream directly into the state. The jet will itself provide tremendous dynamic lift, in addition to directing numerous disturbances right at the state and supplying them with an ample oceanic moisture source. The jet will be at quite a low latitude over much of the Pacific, so these storms will be quite cold, at least initially. Very heavy rainfall and strong to potentially very strong winds will impact the lower elevations beginning late Sunday and continuing through at least the following Sunday. This will be the case for the entire state, from (and south of) the Mexican border all the way up to Oregon. Above 3000-4000 feet, precipitation will be all snow, and since temperatures will be unusually cold for a precipitation event of this magnitude, a truly prodigious amount of snowfall is likely to occur in the mountains, possibly measured in the tens of feet in the Sierra after it's all said and done. But there's a big and rather threatening caveat to that (discussed below).Individual storm events are going to be hard to time for at least few more days, since this jet is just about as powerful as they come (on this planet, anyway). Between this Sunday and the following Sunday, I expect categorical statewide rainfall totals in excess of 3-4 inches. That is likely to be a huge underestimate for most areas. Much of NorCal is likely to see 5-10 inches in the lowlands, with 10-20 inches in orographically-favored areas. Most of SoCal will see 3-6 inches at lower elevations, with perhaps triple that amount in favored areas.

This is where things get even more interesting, though. The models are virtually unanimous in "reloading" the powerful jet stream and forming an additional persistent kink 2000-3000 miles to our southwest after next Sunday. This is a truly ominous pattern, because it implies the potential for a strong Pineapple-type connection to develop. Indeed, the 12z GFS now shows copious warm rains falling between days 12 and 16 across the entire state. Normally, such as scenario out beyond day seven would be dubious at best. Since the models are in such truly remarkable agreement, however, and because of the extremely high potential impact of such an event, it's worth mentioning now. Since there will be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very serious flooding. This situation will have to monitored closely. Even if the tropical connection does not develop, expected rains in the coming 7-10 days will likely be sufficient to cause flooding in and of themselves (even in spite of dry antecedent conditions).

In addition to very heavy precipitation, powerful winds may result from very steep pressure gradients associated with the large and deep low pressure centers expect ed to begin approaching the coast by early next week. Though it's not clear at the moment just how powerful these winds may be, there is certainly the potential for a widespread damaging wind event at some point, and the high Sierra peaks are likely to see gusts in the 100-200 mph range (since the 200kt jet at 200-300 mb will essentially run directly into the mountains at some point). The details of this will have to be hashed out as the event(s) draw closer.
In short, the next 2-3 weeks (at least) are likely to be more active across California than any other 2-3 week period in recent memory. The potential exists for a dangerous flood scenario to arise at some point during this interval, especially with the possibility of a heavy rain-on-snow event during late week 2. In some parts of Southern California, a whole season's worth of rain could fall over the course of 5-10 days. This is likely to be a rather memorable event. Stay tuned.
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1/19/2010 11:34am
No, it was written by a friend who works at NOAA. They usually don't put out such candid reports about the weather. Just one man's opinion on what is going to happen, but he lives for weather; so I trust him! Watch out for massive landslides and flooding!!!
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Mudslides/landslides are a very real possibility. Those in the canyons must be doing a little nail biting about now.

Good luck.
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1/19/2010 11:43am
Listening to the radio on the way in, they said tomorrow might hit the top ten list of wettest days on record in So. Cal.
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1/19/2010 11:48am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:10pm
its been raining non-stop hard for the past 2 days, its a lake outside.
1/19/2010 11:48am
Guy B,

Would they consider canceling if the deluge gets as bad as they say it is going to get? That has never happened before, no?
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1/19/2010 11:51am
My house has been out of power since 7am.

I think the forecast is less than 10% chance of precip on Saturday.
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1/19/2010 11:54am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:10pm
Weather is still projected as Rain thru Friday...percipitation tapering off Fri-Nite and "Partly Cloudy Sat w/ 20% chance of percipitation"...& "0 % chance" as of Sat-nite...

Could be alright if SoCal doesn't fall apart.
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1/19/2010 11:58am
they built the track already, right? then they went on to cover it, if they drain the water out and release the tarp on saturday, and it doesnt rain saturday, then we can have a fairly dry track. it'll be rutty regardless...

go hill!
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1/19/2010 12:01pm
SMITH201 wrote:
As if the traffic there isnt bad enough! Sad
Torco1 wrote:
I live literally 10 minutes from my work.......last night it took me over 2 hours to get home. No exaggeration.
You need to buy a streetbike and split lanes.

Man I always enjoyed splitting lanes on the 59 while the cagers were all pinned in.
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Ddavis wrote:
they built the track already, right? then they went on to cover it, if they drain the water out and release the tarp on saturday, and...
they built the track already, right? then they went on to cover it, if they drain the water out and release the tarp on saturday, and it doesnt rain saturday, then we can have a fairly dry track. it'll be rutty regardless...

go hill!
You know...he's riden in some soggy-assed stuff on his hillside track at home, in Oregon, for YEARS....yet, you're the 1st guy to throw his name out there.

He really is a wet weather weapon.

I'm jus' sayin'...

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