Anyone remember Bradshaws quote?

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It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
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Do you know what year that might have been crash?
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1990 I believe
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1989 i think.
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Crash82 wrote:
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who...
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
Not that I have a problem with Bradshaw but I have to ask.

How did that work out for him?

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1/12/2010 4:35pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2010 4:36pm
I may have an old VHS tape with it on it. Let's find the quote before we bash. Stroupe reminded me of Bradshaw back then and while I don't remember the quote, I do remember laughing and thinking how much I respected him for coming in fighting and calling them out. He was actually answering another established pro who was bitching about him I think. Stroupe has the goods to be the next big thing, he just needs to take it a bit slower, he obviously wasn't there to just podium. man Moto got really good this year, can't wait for the next one!!
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Crash82 wrote:
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who...
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
jmar wrote:
Not that I have a problem with Bradshaw but I have to ask.

How did that work out for him?
He won about 11 races in one season. How about you?
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Crash82 wrote:
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who...
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
jmar wrote:
Not that I have a problem with Bradshaw but I have to ask.

How did that work out for him?
Tbteam wrote:
He won about 11 races in one season. How about you?
This isn't about me. It's about Bradshaw.

He did what so many on here think is unacceptable. He burned out.

Difference is that if one of todays riders burn out, he's a spoiled little pussy.
Different standards for the riders of the past.
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I always felt Bradshaw "burned out" because he couldn't take getting his ass whipped by McGrath in the '93 SX series.
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Matthes' podcast with him was very good. If you listen to it, he explains why he became burnt out.
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Matthes' podcast with him was very good. If you listen to it, he explains why he became burnt out.
I have seen plenty of kids burn out. I didn't hear the podcast that you are talking about but his reasons couldn't be any different that todays riders. It really iratates me that Bradshaw (which I have no problems with) get's a pass and he is a living legend while some of today's
riders are called spoiled pussies.

Trust me on this, I know why kids burn out.
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Here's the deal though. I'm a machinist and have been for 17 years. I have always been one of if not the best guy every place I have worked. I have been burnt out for over 10 years. I hate it, I can't stand it. I could care less about any of it. But I still show up and do my best on part after part, day after day for a fraction of what these guys make. Plus, no young chics are throwin' the poon at me for being a good machinist. (I used to be a local "pro", so don't think I don't know about the kind of poon it pulls).

That is the point that people are trying to make, IMO. Alot of people hate their jobs. But they still do them.
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circus wrote:
Matthes' podcast with him was very good. If you listen to it, he explains why he became burnt out.
jmar wrote:
I have seen plenty of kids burn out. I didn't hear the podcast that you are talking about but his reasons couldn't be any different that...
I have seen plenty of kids burn out. I didn't hear the podcast that you are talking about but his reasons couldn't be any different that todays riders. It really iratates me that Bradshaw (which I have no problems with) get's a pass and he is a living legend while some of today's
riders are called spoiled pussies.

Trust me on this, I know why kids burn out.
you tell me what rider in recent years acomplished what Bradshaw did and then quit?

You tell me who won supercross races in the big boy class when they were 16 and who had races where they came through the pack crashing numerous times and winning.

who are they jim ?

Bradshaw is a legend because he was a bad ass on a scooter and I dont know of any riders in todays standards that did what he did and just quit .
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I remember one quote, You don't know how fast you can go till you crash. I love the beast from the east. I remember that guy on a 125 putting an outside pass on someone for the lead at Lake Sugar Tree while pulling a tear off
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Crash82 wrote:
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who...
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
jmar wrote:
Not that I have a problem with Bradshaw but I have to ask.

How did that work out for him?
James has said something similar before...just saying.
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I recall reading something similar to your quote crash. Seems like it was in dirtbike around 1990. Don't have the mag unfortunately.
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Don't know of any link to it but I've seen it enough. It was 1989 and Bradshaw was racing the 250 class before heading back to the East to compete in the 125 SX. Rick Johnson was quoted as saying that he (Bradshaw) is coming in here like he owns the field and he needs to show some of these guys some respect. Then it goes to Bradshaw's interview and he said "I'm not going to show them any respect". He did say then that he would respect their experience. Bradshaw had a little attitude, lol
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Jim, I think wolfman is on the right track. Bradshaw did achieve a lot before he walked away. And it was more of a bottle rocket than a slow burn out.

On the other hand I'm in no position to judge the guys who make it to the pros, even if they don't seem to perform at the level they seem capable of.
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I went through this recently with Josh Hill, who went through a rough patch because he just got burnt out, and a lot of people were saying, “Well, Josh should just suck it up and do it because he’s getting paid, and that’s that.” They think it’s ridiculous that a kid could get burnt out “that fast” in his career, but the reality is that it’s not just three or four years to him. He’s been racing full-time since he was a little kid. It’s the same for you when you
came through, right?



That’s exactly right, and more than likely he did it similar to how we did it, because my dad had us traveling all over. And sure, that’s probably what got me so good at such a young age, but for many years, I was way younger than everybody, so I got beat a lot. I got beat continually. That was hard for a kid. It’s a lot like playing football. You’ve got to eventually win and get the taste of victory. So I looked back on when I actually did step away, or retire, or whatever you want to call it, and I look at all of those years, and it was pretty damned serious for me at a really young age. It wasn’t like at four, but it wasn’t too far after that that it became serious enough that my parents were thinking that I had a chance to do something. And as young as 13, or maybe even before that, I was already thinking ahead to supercross. Early on, I was thinking, “Hey, I can do this.” It’s not like it was just five years, it was a lot more, and it adds up. But because you hit it so hard at such a young age, you don’t get to be a kid – and more than likely a lot of that probably kept me out of trouble – but you miss out on a lot of stuff that most people don’t even take into consideration.
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Crash82 wrote:
I may have an old VHS tape with it on it. Let's find the quote before we bash. Stroupe reminded me of Bradshaw back then and...
I may have an old VHS tape with it on it. Let's find the quote before we bash. Stroupe reminded me of Bradshaw back then and while I don't remember the quote, I do remember laughing and thinking how much I respected him for coming in fighting and calling them out. He was actually answering another established pro who was bitching about him I think. Stroupe has the goods to be the next big thing, he just needs to take it a bit slower, he obviously wasn't there to just podium. man Moto got really good this year, can't wait for the next one!!
both of em came from NC

lots of bad motherfuckers come outta NC
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Crash82 wrote:
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who...
It was on a TV interview when he was first challenging the big boys, something about he wasn't scared of anyone and he didn't care who they were, he wasn't moving over for anyone? I have been a fan ever since, I would love to see that clip if anyone runs across it.
jmar wrote:
Not that I have a problem with Bradshaw but I have to ask.

How did that work out for him?
MX479Guy wrote:
James has said something similar before...just saying.
your shit is really tired Scott

seriously
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Here's the deal though. I'm a machinist and have been for 17 years. I have always been one of if not the best guy every place...
Here's the deal though. I'm a machinist and have been for 17 years. I have always been one of if not the best guy every place I have worked. I have been burnt out for over 10 years. I hate it, I can't stand it. I could care less about any of it. But I still show up and do my best on part after part, day after day for a fraction of what these guys make. Plus, no young chics are throwin' the poon at me for being a good machinist. (I used to be a local "pro", so don't think I don't know about the kind of poon it pulls).

That is the point that people are trying to make, IMO. Alot of people hate their jobs. But they still do them.
Your a good guy Wolfman but showing up and putting in your time as a machinist isn't anything like what a pro level rider goes through.

Two totally different things.
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1/12/2010 8:08pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:59pm
jmar wrote:
[b][i]I went through this recently with Josh Hill, who went through a rough patch because he just got burnt out, and a lot of people were...
I went through this recently with Josh Hill, who went through a rough patch because he just got burnt out, and a lot of people were saying, “Well, Josh should just suck it up and do it because he’s getting paid, and that’s that.” They think it’s ridiculous that a kid could get burnt out “that fast” in his career, but the reality is that it’s not just three or four years to him. He’s been racing full-time since he was a little kid. It’s the same for you when you
came through, right?



That’s exactly right, and more than likely he did it similar to how we did it, because my dad had us traveling all over. And sure, that’s probably what got me so good at such a young age, but for many years, I was way younger than everybody, so I got beat a lot. I got beat continually. That was hard for a kid. It’s a lot like playing football. You’ve got to eventually win and get the taste of victory. So I looked back on when I actually did step away, or retire, or whatever you want to call it, and I look at all of those years, and it was pretty damned serious for me at a really young age. It wasn’t like at four, but it wasn’t too far after that that it became serious enough that my parents were thinking that I had a chance to do something. And as young as 13, or maybe even before that, I was already thinking ahead to supercross. Early on, I was thinking, “Hey, I can do this.” It’s not like it was just five years, it was a lot more, and it adds up. But because you hit it so hard at such a young age, you don’t get to be a kid – and more than likely a lot of that probably kept me out of trouble – but you miss out on a lot of stuff that most people don’t even take into consideration.
and what riders today that suffer from "burnout " accomplished more than Bradshaw Jim? Inform me please. It shouldnt iritate you that The beast is consisered a legend ... come on man I thought you were an ace on this stuff.....Tongue
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One of the best rides I've ever witnessed was Damon at the Miami SX in the 125 class(89?). He crashed 4 times and still caught up and passed Ty Davis on the last lap. He rode like he was from another planet.
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1/12/2010 8:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2010 8:20pm
Crash....i do remember that. I think it went along the lines of " I'm not showing any of these guys respect as they don't give me any".....or something along those lines. I KNOW i have that race on tape , i just haven't had the time to convert it over to DVD yet.
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What exactly does burnout have to do with Bradshaw's statement about not backing down from anyone?

The guy was a ba and to my recollection never got taken out by anyone. He just took himself out … sort of like our current fastest man on the planet.

This guy went big boy class right out of the ams and then after his first full year in 125s went full time 250 class and never looked back.
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1/12/2010 8:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2010 8:34pm
I am still waitng for Randol Talbot aka Jim Martin to fill us in on that as well
1/12/2010 8:43pm
Another quote from the Beast when asked about his competitors was "They didn't send me no Christmas cards!" or something like that.
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jmar wrote:
[b][i]I went through this recently with Josh Hill, who went through a rough patch because he just got burnt out, and a lot of people were...
I went through this recently with Josh Hill, who went through a rough patch because he just got burnt out, and a lot of people were saying, “Well, Josh should just suck it up and do it because he’s getting paid, and that’s that.” They think it’s ridiculous that a kid could get burnt out “that fast” in his career, but the reality is that it’s not just three or four years to him. He’s been racing full-time since he was a little kid. It’s the same for you when you
came through, right?



That’s exactly right, and more than likely he did it similar to how we did it, because my dad had us traveling all over. And sure, that’s probably what got me so good at such a young age, but for many years, I was way younger than everybody, so I got beat a lot. I got beat continually. That was hard for a kid. It’s a lot like playing football. You’ve got to eventually win and get the taste of victory. So I looked back on when I actually did step away, or retire, or whatever you want to call it, and I look at all of those years, and it was pretty damned serious for me at a really young age. It wasn’t like at four, but it wasn’t too far after that that it became serious enough that my parents were thinking that I had a chance to do something. And as young as 13, or maybe even before that, I was already thinking ahead to supercross. Early on, I was thinking, “Hey, I can do this.” It’s not like it was just five years, it was a lot more, and it adds up. But because you hit it so hard at such a young age, you don’t get to be a kid – and more than likely a lot of that probably kept me out of trouble – but you miss out on a lot of stuff that most people don’t even take into consideration.
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and what riders today that suffer from "burnout " accomplished more than Bradshaw Jim? Inform me please. It shouldnt iritate you that The beast is consisered...
and what riders today that suffer from "burnout " accomplished more than Bradshaw Jim? Inform me please. It shouldnt iritate you that The beast is consisered a legend ... come on man I thought you were an ace on this stuff.....Tongue
An ace on old moto?

You must have me mixed up with someone else. I am the guy that looks forward and not backwards. I don't believe you have ever seem me post about "the good old days" when .things were better.

I have no problem with Bradshaw but I do have a problem with the double standards that people seem to have when it come to the riders of their generation. Bradshaw left the sport because he was burned out. If we are talking about Millsaps or Tedesco they are a bunch of little winers.



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rallendude wrote:
What exactly does burnout have to do with Bradshaw's statement about not backing down from anyone? The guy was a ba and to my recollection never...
What exactly does burnout have to do with Bradshaw's statement about not backing down from anyone?

The guy was a ba and to my recollection never got taken out by anyone. He just took himself out … sort of like our current fastest man on the planet.

This guy went big boy class right out of the ams and then after his first full year in 125s went full time 250 class and never looked back.
You know it really doesn't have anything to do with it but I let all the "good old days" bullshit get under my skin and I posted something that I shouldn't have.
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1/12/2010 11:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:59pm
Wolfman > I'm a journeyman tool and die maker so I can relate to being a machinst. I think your thought process is a little off if you think being a 9-5 m-f machinist takes the same effort and motivation as being one of the best in the world at racing motocross.

Seriously, what you are implying is that showing up to be a machinst is no different than being a factory rider, therefore Damon Bradshaw wouldn't be able to hack it in the real world. ......when in fact, as most of us know he is a very successful business man.

Damon is still my favorite rider and I have had a ton of respect for him for actually WALKING AWAY from the richest contract in the history of the sport (at the time) when he felt he no longer had what for took....for whatever reason.

There are things in this sport that Damon did that still haven't been repeated. Like taking down Ricky Johnson in Japan in 1988 at the age of 16. That would be like some 16 year old beating Stewart today. .....just one of the many reasons he is a living legend.

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