Mitch figured something out with the KX250 engine?

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Anyone notice that the PC bikes seem to have taken a leap in the last few rounds of outdoors as far as power goes? Multiple holeshots with all the riders up near the front in multiple motos. They also seem to be keeping up with the star bikes on the hills.

I'd love to see the PC bikes come back to former glory and give the star bikes a run for their money.

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8/28/2023 12:06pm

I assume you mean the 4S bikes? 

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8/28/2023 12:08pm

Excited to see what Kitchen will be able to do next year on the PC bike. 

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8/28/2023 12:09pm
WarrenMX wrote:
Anyone notice that the PC bikes seem to have taken a leap in the last few rounds of outdoors as far as power goes? Multiple holeshots...

Anyone notice that the PC bikes seem to have taken a leap in the last few rounds of outdoors as far as power goes? Multiple holeshots with all the riders up near the front in multiple motos. They also seem to be keeping up with the star bikes on the hills.

I'd love to see the PC bikes come back to former glory and give the star bikes a run for their money.

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8/28/2023 12:10pm

Maybe they've just been working on their starting technique?

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8/28/2023 1:58pm Edited Date/Time 8/28/2023 2:02pm

I like the thought there, but two injectors is plenty for decent staged injection on an NA engine of that size. Hell even 20x that size, really, unless it's on a heavy ethanol diet.

Either way, those PC bikes are moving and it was awesome to see Jo up top again and happy to see the drought ended for Mitch and Co 🙂

edit. I'm just assuming it's staged injection, as that is infinitely more popular and I'm sure I've heard before that this is the case.

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8/28/2023 2:04pm

I read the hired one of the HRC Motor guys about a month ago. I'm thinking that may have something to do with starts but they are definitely running better.

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8/28/2023 2:14pm Edited Date/Time 8/28/2023 2:14pm

Are there really any secrets to a 4S performance-wise? Balance between HP and reliability..

Not like there was some secret nobody thought of all these years to suddenly make more hp in a 4s..

Guessing they’ve been putting a focus on starts during practice..

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8/28/2023 2:46pm
Brad460 wrote:
Are there really any secrets to a 4S performance-wise? Balance between HP and reliability.. Not like there was some secret nobody thought of all these years...

Are there really any secrets to a 4S performance-wise? Balance between HP and reliability..

Not like there was some secret nobody thought of all these years to suddenly make more hp in a 4s..

Guessing they’ve been putting a focus on starts during practice..

C'mon man, they ALWAYS looking for an edge. You're right that some of that might come from executing the start, but sometimes they stumble on something that makes a few extra HP. Think electric water pumps, most recently. There are also less obvious/visible gains in electronics. 

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8/28/2023 2:48pm
WarrenMX wrote:
Anyone notice that the PC bikes seem to have taken a leap in the last few rounds of outdoors as far as power goes? Multiple holeshots...

Anyone notice that the PC bikes seem to have taken a leap in the last few rounds of outdoors as far as power goes? Multiple holeshots with all the riders up near the front in multiple motos. They also seem to be keeping up with the star bikes on the hills.

I'd love to see the PC bikes come back to former glory and give the star bikes a run for their money.

Are the digits 2, 8 and 0 involved? 

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8/28/2023 5:42pm

It's 4t...   

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8/28/2023 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2023 6:23am

He said he figured out something near mid-season, then told Matthes he found another 6/10 of a HP towards the end of the season. 

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8/29/2023 4:13am Edited Date/Time 8/29/2023 4:15am

.6 HP huh? LMAO!

Sounds like he figured out how not to tell you what he figured out.

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brocsdad wrote:
I read the hired one of the HRC Motor guys about a month ago. I'm thinking that may have something to do with starts but they...

I read the hired one of the HRC Motor guys about a month ago. I'm thinking that may have something to do with starts but they are definitely running better.

He has been there all year. 

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8/29/2023 5:02am

Forkner says something in one of his Vlogs (2 weeks ago maybe?) about an updated engine and how he had to run the older one in practice. It must be a significant difference for him to mention it in a vlog.

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8/29/2023 12:07pm

Since Washougal, the Kawasakis have been on par with Star"s on the big uphills.  You can hear/see the difference those bikes make over Hunter"s bike ..was his Honda de-tuned after Southwick for the championship?

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8/29/2023 12:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2023 12:45pm
147leeman wrote:
Since Washougal, the Kawasakis have been on par with Star"s on the big uphills.  You can hear/see the difference those bikes make over Hunter"s bike ..was...

Since Washougal, the Kawasakis have been on par with Star"s on the big uphills.  You can hear/see the difference those bikes make over Hunter"s bike ..was his Honda de-tuned after Southwick for the championship?

They may be on par on the hills but they are killing them on the starts. That's a big problem.

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8/29/2023 12:47pm

End of season contract performances.

This would make sense except all those dudes already have contracts settled for next year.

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