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Remind me again … which country did Zelensky invade ?
Eddie. Did you even read his comment?
Again, read it. Slowly. Understand it before your knee jerk reaction.
Russia invaded Ukraine. I guess you could kind of say that Zelenskyy and his predecessors invaded parts of Eastern Ukraine. That is one scenario. Another is that Russia created the issue in the east to fuel conflict that would justify an invasion. I’ve been reading more about that hypothesis lately. For me, it seems like it’s a bit of both with Russia definitely favouring exploiting the situation in their favour and justifying the seizure of land to act as a buffer.
Hey Eddie, patiently waiting for your criticism of this post.
Any rational person could look at this non moto section, see the thread topics, look at the up and down votes, see what the overall opinions there are here, and easily conclude that it’s extremely far right overall. Dangerously so. I had a lot more here typed out explaining why. But this thread is about Ukraine and I don’t want this thread to go down that road.
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“ I guess you could kind of say that Zelenskyy and his predecessors invaded parts of Eastern Ukraine.”
Brilliant .
Another clear indication of your myopic view of the conflict and events leading up to it. Eddie, maybe you should leave this to the folks that can make observations without the knee jerk, emotional and completely biased lens. Every post you make demonstrates just how one dimensional your thinking is.
Yeah, it kind of is. If being brilliant means pointing out the obvious.
This war started when Russian specops took over Crimea. World was silent, so Putin went for east of Ukraine. FSB colonel Girkin and bunch of GRU specops were directing all of it.
Yeah, I’ve been reading more about it recently. It’s like a page straight out of the imperialist handbook and how to influence regime/power hierarchy’s. SOP of what every major power on the planet has been doing for years. It’s really interesting to see the battle between the two key influencers for dominance of the Ukraine. Shitty that Ukraine is on the losing end between the two powers.
This dude’s a warmonger.
He’s just holier than thou.
Maybe he’s a warmonger too.
IanMac, maybe you should do your civic duty and go volunteer.
I may not agree with everything Kongols says but he put his money where his mouth is and did multiple trips to Ukraine to volunteer and help their cause. A whole lot more honourable than just trying to shame people for not sharing a belief or opinion.
When will you be joining Wagner ?
How would you Russian leaning folks like to see this conflict end?
Another bad comparison Eddie.
I don’t root for Russia.
I don’t see a lot of Russian leaning folks here. Ideally Russia would leave and give up any territory it occupies. I don’t see them giving back Crimea. I’d like to see it end soon regardless of conditions. Possibly with some kind of agreement or resolution that NATO and the West would agree on a plan that would not lead to provocation resulting from encroachment on their border. It’s a similar situation with China and the continuing expansion of US and Western military assets closer to their borders.
Why should Ukraine give up its relationship with the west as its stronger and more necessary now than ever?
Guess that depends if it’s framed from the Russian point of view or Ukraines. I didn’t say they should. Maybe a DMZ or other similar option? Buffer zone? You asked a question. Got an answer and followed up with another question. These are hypotheticals. View as a range of options or possibilities. I can’t imagine a US or Western Military build up in Ukraine is going to solve the long term problem.
RFK Jr's position was that the US put in a pro US government in Ukraine and Russia was afraid that the US would install a base in Crimea. So Russia preemptively invaded Crimea. Is there any truth to this?
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Maybe dissolving NATO?
Alot of Russian talking points being repeated here.
Dissolving NATO 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A lot of what you perceive as Russian talking points. They are really just talking points. Talking points that seem to be growing In popularity globally as support for the war declines. Russian and Ukrainian support. A lot of anti NATO sentiment in Europe, more than there ever has been.
It’s not a strange concept. Been a discussion for decades now.
An aggressive Russia invading it neighbour has probably put an end to that discussion.
No, to the contrary. It’s ignited the discussion. There has been massive anti NATO demonstrations going in in major cities all over Europe.
I'm struggling to find any sources for these massive demonstrations all over Europe from any source that I trust.
Most of what I can see is linked to left wing organisations. Could you post some links?
Go on Twitter, lots of content.
It has not ignited some discussion. There has always been people who are against NATO in Europe, that number has decreased since the invasion though.
Ok, ok you must be right because you say so. Lol, the fuck it hasn’t started people openly protesting NATO.
Try Russian state news orgs .
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