Biden 2024

TDeath21
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5/5/2023 7:18am

Don’t you identify as a socialist? Or just a left leaning loon?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ranked-choice-scam-alaskans-for-better…

Let’s say that Ron DeSantis wins the Republican Primary, and Donald Trump still wants to run for President as an Independent. November elections roll around and the breakdown in multiple swing states ends up looking similar to something like this:

Biden: 42%
Desantis: 38%
Trump: 18%
Other: 2%
 

As our system is now, Biden takes the state and all its electoral votes. This has happened most notably in the 1992 election and the 1912 election. Yet, 56% of people in that state had more conservative views and just couldn’t agree completely on which candidate to vote for. In a ranked choice system, the conservatives likely put Trump and DeSantis 1-2 in whatever order. Since Biden did not reach the >50% threshold in round 1, the person with the lowest amount of first place votes is eliminated, which would be Trump in this example. His voters likely have DeSantis as 2, so in the 2nd round, DeSantis scoops up those Trump votes and wins the state and all its electoral votes with 56% of the vote.

This allows people to rank their choices, hence the name, so they can vote for who they like the most, yet still have their choices ranked so if it does become a 2 person race, like it is currently, their vote still counts. Our system of voting currently forces us into a 2 party system, which most Americans don’t identify with either party, because all a strong 3rd option ever does is siphon votes from the party they’re most aligned with.

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5/5/2023 8:35am
Spoonguy wrote:
Big corporations get their power from making products or services we ask for and want. They provide things we wish for, no corporation continues in business...

Big corporations get their power from making products or services we ask for and want. They provide things we wish for, no corporation continues in business making unwanted things. If anyone thinks Amazon, McDonalds, or Disney is an evil empire controlling politicians and our political process they are free to not buy the product or the stock. The leadership of the fortune 500 companies in this country is as diverse as the population of this country itself, and many of the current CEOs have come from nothing. To keep their jobs as leaders of these big corporations these people have to focus on selling products and making their stock appealing to investors full time and then some. Undoubtedly big corporations wishes, lobbying, or influence is felt in our politics, but not anymore than many other groups. Probably less so. I think most people would be shocked how big of a lobbying effort real estate agents, health insurance, teachers, and the media have.

Undoubtedly big corporations wishes, lobbying, or influence is felt in our politics, but not anymore than many other groups. Probably less so. I think most people would be shocked how big of a lobbying effort real estate agents, health insurance, teachers, and the media have.

These are all corporations lobbying to get favorable treatment by the government, why separate them?

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5/5/2023 9:05am
Spoonguy wrote:
Big corporations get their power from making products or services we ask for and want. They provide things we wish for, no corporation continues in business...

Big corporations get their power from making products or services we ask for and want. They provide things we wish for, no corporation continues in business making unwanted things. If anyone thinks Amazon, McDonalds, or Disney is an evil empire controlling politicians and our political process they are free to not buy the product or the stock. The leadership of the fortune 500 companies in this country is as diverse as the population of this country itself, and many of the current CEOs have come from nothing. To keep their jobs as leaders of these big corporations these people have to focus on selling products and making their stock appealing to investors full time and then some. Undoubtedly big corporations wishes, lobbying, or influence is felt in our politics, but not anymore than many other groups. Probably less so. I think most people would be shocked how big of a lobbying effort real estate agents, health insurance, teachers, and the media have.

early wrote:
Undoubtedly big corporations wishes, lobbying, or influence is felt in our politics, but not anymore than many other groups. Probably less so. I think most people...

Undoubtedly big corporations wishes, lobbying, or influence is felt in our politics, but not anymore than many other groups. Probably less so. I think most people would be shocked how big of a lobbying effort real estate agents, health insurance, teachers, and the media have.

These are all corporations lobbying to get favorable treatment by the government, why separate them?

Yup

Or…why deny that any of them have too much damn influence? 

Look at the OBVIOUS influence that Big Pharma, Big Banking/Finance…etc, have. All of it…not good for us in the big picture. 

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5/5/2023 9:37am

Tucker needs to be the White House Press Secretary. Then he can face all those idiots from the other networks and ask them from the podium why they're so stupid . Like, why were you never interested in corruption when you could have asked Biden? Oh the hilarity that would ensue.

Reporter's boss: Where's your report?

Reporter: I've got nothing, he made us look like idiots again. LaughingLaughingLaughing

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5/5/2023 9:41am
ToolMaker wrote:
Tucker needs to be the White House Press Secretary. Then he can face all those idiots from the other networks and ask them from the podium...

Tucker needs to be the White House Press Secretary. Then he can face all those idiots from the other networks and ask them from the podium why they're so stupid . Like, why were you never interested in corruption when you could have asked Biden? Oh the hilarity that would ensue.

Reporter's boss: Where's your report?

Reporter: I've got nothing, he made us look like idiots again. LaughingLaughingLaughing

How awesome would that be??

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5/5/2023 10:30am
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You buried the lead!  What class are you racing?  Bike make, model?  My word…

I will be at British Supermoto Championship, doing the livestream commentary. 

Next race is 2 weeks away, on my 89 RM250. 

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5/5/2023 11:03am
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But can you NOT buy their products at their prices considering our food, banks, airlines, media, technology etc etc etc. have all become conglomerates of larger...

But can you NOT buy their products at their prices considering our food, banks, airlines, media, technology etc etc etc. have all become conglomerates of larger corporation(s)? Short answer...nearly impossible. 

Take Comcast for instance...the largest conglomerate in the U.S.
It now owns, AT&T, Xfinity, NBC Universal, Sky, Telemundo, CNBC, Peacock, Patriot Media, EMKA, Dreamworks, Xumo the list goes on and on and that's just in the U.S. They own tech and media companies all over the world. They control it all which leaves little choice for any of us "capitalists". 

Tyson Food Corp owns over 30 different, and very large companies that makes thousands of different food products each...most of which are probably in your fridge or in your pantry. They own over 11,000 farms! All under the guise of "Independent Farmers"...LMFAO.
They get to set the price on ALL of those tens of thousands of products including poultry, meat, milk, flour etc etc for each of their brands that use them. You think you have a choice on where to buy your food or from whom? That's wishful thinking my dude. 

As for banks, in and around 1966 there were close to 24,000 independent banks. Today? Less than 6,000. Why? Because regulations were loosened starting in 1980 and continued into the 90's which allowed banks like CitiGroup and Bank of America to eat up all the banks under one roof, and further allowed these big banks to engage in speculative trading and gutted the post-great depression Glass-Steagall act that barred large banks from combining commercial and investment banking under one roof. And whose money do these big banks use to do this bullshit? Yours and mine. Who gets rich? The bankers and stock holders. Who gets bailed out when they pillage the economy every 10 years? The bankers and stock-holders. Who gets shafted? People like us vitards who point fingers at a political party, both of which are complicit in this ponzi scheme on the working-class of which has now become so normalized, that these robber barons don't even give a shit. They laugh all the way to their private jets, yachts, country clubs, overseas shell accounts and mansions in multiple countries. They simply watch the common worker argue over this manufactured narrative of petty cultural/identity politics bullshit all the while they gobble up the entire cake. Meanwhile, we fight each other over the leftover sprinkles left on the carpet that hasn't had a deep clean in 30 years. It's hard to accept, I know. But that's what is happening and it's right in front of our faces. 

It's not capitalism anymore, it's straight up theft and greed with ZERO consequences. The solution is simple...break up these conglomerates across every sector of our economy like they were in the 1930s-1970s and then watch the middle class resurge, thrive and stop eating each others faces over petty bullshit that we are all being spoon fed 24/7 and thought to believe this is normal and "just how it is". It wasn't this way 60 years ago and it shouldn't be now, but we are all distracted. Just how the system has been reconfigured to do so. 

Diatribe over. But I stand by my position and hope everyone will take a moment to dive deeper into the root causes of this manufactured chaos in America. 

Comcast does not own AT&T.  A part of the broadband business and tv service was sold to Comcast in 2001.  Since then Southwestern Bell bought ATT and then BellSouth.  

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5/6/2023 4:38am

What industry groups spend on lobbying is public information. Even more interesting is who they pay it to. It's interesting that all this information is public yet nobody looks to see who the politician they vote for is sponsored by. On this moto site we all know what gear and boots Tomac uses, but nobody knows who sponsors Ron Desantis or AOC.

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5/13/2023 12:02pm

pedo joe

 

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