Mexican Cartels

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Edited Date/Time 3/7/2023 5:54pm

Killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with Chinese Fentanyl and now just gunning them down in broad daylight on the street. When do we step in and say enough is enough with our bad neighbors to the south? Give me your thoughts or just shout racist either way I’d like to know your solution. 

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3/7/2023 5:12pm

We have to focus on gender pronouns, diversity, and inclusion.....

Seriously though, you are totally right.  We should have black ops/mercenaries down there wiping them out rather than welcoming them at the border with a hotel key and buffet pass.

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3/7/2023 5:36pm

It’s an easy problem to actually fix. 30 days max to knock 90% of it in the dirt. It’s just that no one wants to get dirty. Look at Ecuador, the took drastic measures to curb murders from the outlaw cartels, Arrested 64k gang members in short time and the murder rate fell by 57%. 

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A billion dollars to Ukraine, 20+ years in Afghanistan, and we won’t help/fix Mexico. All the while, it’s our insatiable taste for drugs that has damaged their country.

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I hear the sound of an A-10 grunting through the home of a cartel guy, 1 an hour.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

How you like me now!

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Legalize all drugs?Big pharma can make trillions and the states can tax the hell out of it.

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3/7/2023 6:46pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2023 6:47pm

Legalize all drugs?Big pharma can make trillions and the states can tax the hell out of it.

Never work at this point.

Too many manufacturers that aren't on the books.

The only solution is to start stacking bodies.

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The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our leaders give a fuck about some overdoses when they are funding black ops with "confiscated" funds?

It's a pay to play deal and will continue for our lifetimes.

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avidchimp wrote:
The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our...

The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our leaders give a fuck about some overdoses when they are funding black ops with "confiscated" funds?

It's a pay to play deal and will continue for our lifetimes.

Cocaine Importation Agency?

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avidchimp wrote:
The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our...

The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our leaders give a fuck about some overdoses when they are funding black ops with "confiscated" funds?

It's a pay to play deal and will continue for our lifetimes.

Muttly wrote:

Cocaine Importation Agency?

Yep.

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avidchimp wrote:
The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our...

The collusion between the cartels and US Gubernment goes back many decades and across all party lines, it's very much a gentleman's agreement. You think our leaders give a fuck about some overdoses when they are funding black ops with "confiscated" funds?

It's a pay to play deal and will continue for our lifetimes.

When I say it’s time to clean house I don’t just mean on that side of the piñata line. 😉

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Start dropping bodies that will get attention. 

Drop the bodies that are letting this happen. 

Then maybe someone will decide that we should do something, and guys like Kenny wouldn't be suffering. 

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3/7/2023 9:12pm

Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do. there is such great significance to the passage of time'

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Legalize all drugs?Big pharma can make trillions and the states can tax the hell out of it.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Never work at this point.

Too many manufacturers that aren't on the books.

The only solution is to start stacking bodies.

I love the way you think Karl , and I agree. I think we should hold those responsible for keeping the border open too. Now we're talking. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

I hear the sound of an A-10 grunting through the home of a cartel guy, 1 an hour.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

How you like me now!

Exactly.

It's long past time to fully militarize our border.

It's long past time to declare actual war on cartels, and the ensuing actions that would be necessary. 

 

And it's long past time for our government, and both major political parties, to focus on the safety of lawful American citizens in this country, and stop throwing away billions to others, that are not the democracies they tell us they are.

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HarrowDrag wrote:
Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance...

Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do. there is such great significance to the passage of time'

I laughed.

A perfect example of the idiots that idiots elect. 

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How the Cartels are not “Foreign Terrorist Organizations” based on the death toll of Americans, Mexicans, Guatemalans…etc. …? Is waaaay beyond my comprehension. 

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It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now.

You must be willing to inflict extreme pain and suffering on those who wish to harm your family or your country.

If you don’t, then it will be your family or your country that suffers in pain.

The US needs to get back to doing what it does best. Sending some bad dudes to go do some bad things to some bad people.

Send the wrecking crew out and let them go wreck some of these cartels.

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TXDirt wrote:
It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now. You must...

It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now.

You must be willing to inflict extreme pain and suffering on those who wish to harm your family or your country.

If you don’t, then it will be your family or your country that suffers in pain.

The US needs to get back to doing what it does best. Sending some bad dudes to go do some bad things to some bad people.

Send the wrecking crew out and let them go wreck some of these cartels.

“The president takes this very seriously. He takes this very seriously. The FBI and other agencies have been on top of this from day one, so that's what he's going to continue to do. When it comes to Americans' lives and their safety the president is always going to make sure that is a top priority.”

Laughing

You just can’t make this shit up! People are in here defending this Administration or they’re still blaming Trump…or the virus…or some other poorly derived narrative of weakness

All the while, they’re incapable of embracing the truth and the reality of what their weakness “hath wrought”. They’re certainly not capable of comprehending the realities of what you’ve posted. There really is only ONE THING that these Cartels are gonna understand. 

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TXDirt wrote:
It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now. You must...

It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now.

You must be willing to inflict extreme pain and suffering on those who wish to harm your family or your country.

If you don’t, then it will be your family or your country that suffers in pain.

The US needs to get back to doing what it does best. Sending some bad dudes to go do some bad things to some bad people.

Send the wrecking crew out and let them go wreck some of these cartels.

You are conflating issues. The government profits off of the drug trade. They have no desire to stop it as it funds off the books programs.

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TXDirt wrote:
It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now. You must...

It takes a lot of violence to secure peace. People forget actually how much violence was needed to get to where we are now.

You must be willing to inflict extreme pain and suffering on those who wish to harm your family or your country.

If you don’t, then it will be your family or your country that suffers in pain.

The US needs to get back to doing what it does best. Sending some bad dudes to go do some bad things to some bad people.

Send the wrecking crew out and let them go wreck some of these cartels.

avidchimp wrote:

You are conflating issues. The government profits off of the drug trade. They have no desire to stop it as it funds off the books programs.

It would be like the Salvation army sending troops to kill all the Red buckets at Christmas time. 😂

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Unfortunately the Mexican government is corrupt.  Always has been. Ulysses S Grant said during the Mexican war that Mexico will never be able to govern itself because of corruption.  Some things never change. But securing the border would be a good place to start.

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Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

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LoudLove wrote:
Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact...

Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

This all day long .

 

You can’t beat drug abuse and addiction by fighting the supply side , it’s a losing strategy even if you had the collective will to kick ass on the cartels . Working on the demand side of the equation is the only way that has a chance to actually find solutions but there is not much opportunity for individual profits … status quo confirmed . 

 

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LoudLove wrote:
Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact...

Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2021 with more than 106,000 drug overdose deaths reported in 2021. 

3/8/2023 3:35pm

I always thought Mexico becoming part of the good ole USA would be the only option to fix it. With All the tax dollars we toss around the world it sure would be nice to help our neighbors and we would become stronger as a country. Maybe a stupid thought but it’s a thought. 

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LoudLove wrote:
Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact...

Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2021 with more than 106,000 drug overdose deaths reported in 2021. 

106K isn’t enough to warrant action.  Let me rephrase that:  106K of the “wrong” people isn’t enough.  When it’s directly impacting America’s most rich & powerful, then we might see a response.

The US hasn’t engaged in a serious border conflict in nearly 200 years.  Over that same period the lethality of weaponry has increased 100X. A direct campaign against cartels could and would result in a counter-assault on US soil.  The Fed isn’t willing to take that chance.

 

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LoudLove wrote:
Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact...

Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2021 with more than 106,000 drug overdose deaths reported in 2021. 

LoudLove wrote:
106K isn’t enough to warrant action.  Let me rephrase that:  106K of the “wrong” people isn’t enough.  When it’s directly impacting America’s most rich & powerful...

106K isn’t enough to warrant action.  Let me rephrase that:  106K of the “wrong” people isn’t enough.  When it’s directly impacting America’s most rich & powerful, then we might see a response.

The US hasn’t engaged in a serious border conflict in nearly 200 years.  Over that same period the lethality of weaponry has increased 100X. A direct campaign against cartels could and would result in a counter-assault on US soil.  The Fed isn’t willing to take that chance.

 

You make is sound like Fed-chair Jerome Powell doesn’t think it’s worth it. 
Laughing

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I could do a group text and get 15-20 sharpshooters to the border by Monday. 

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LoudLove wrote:
Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact...

Kill 1000 cartel members, and that void will be filled with 2000 more.  Exerting violence against a culture accustomed to violence will have a nominal impact.
 

Sure, it’s fun to imagine rolling across the Rio Grande and wreaking havoc, but don’t think the cartels won’t engage in countermeasures. Once we cross that invisible line, they will do the same, in ways we can only imagine. 

Similar to the 2nd Amendment, the US is willing to accept an annual number of casualties to maintain the status quo. Deaths resulting from drugs of Latin American origin don’t warrant a large intervention by US forces. If our country is willing to accept firearms as our children’s leading cause of death, we’re certainly willing to accept the deaths of a few thousand drug users. (This from a 2nd Amendment proponent.)

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2021 with more than 106,000 drug overdose deaths reported in 2021. 

LoudLove wrote:
106K isn’t enough to warrant action.  Let me rephrase that:  106K of the “wrong” people isn’t enough.  When it’s directly impacting America’s most rich & powerful...

106K isn’t enough to warrant action.  Let me rephrase that:  106K of the “wrong” people isn’t enough.  When it’s directly impacting America’s most rich & powerful, then we might see a response.

The US hasn’t engaged in a serious border conflict in nearly 200 years.  Over that same period the lethality of weaponry has increased 100X. A direct campaign against cartels could and would result in a counter-assault on US soil.  The Fed isn’t willing to take that chance.

 

It’s impacting the Biden family, Hunter loves fentanyl. 

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