Why Feld Entertainment Doesn’t Care

3/3/2023 11:09pm

European fans hate on Luongo and Youthstream, 

American fans hate on FELD, Davey Coombes & MX sports..
 

what’s going on??

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3/4/2023 6:33am
enketchum wrote:
FELD is a publicly traded company and the C suite only has a fiduciary responsibility to make their stock holders happy. They don't have to care...

FELD is a publicly traded company and the C suite only has a fiduciary responsibility to make their stock holders happy. They don't have to care about anything else 

FELD is not a publicly traded company. It is privately owned. 

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3/4/2023 10:36am

Exactly, they are incompetent. World Supercross is a result of their incompetence. If Feld ran a good show, competition likely would have never popped up. 

That is ridiculous.  What made WSX viable  is the influx or free money from the Saudi govt “investment” firm to the tune of $50 million. Without...

That is ridiculous.  What made WSX viable  is the influx or free money from the Saudi govt “investment” firm to the tune of $50 million. Without that, there is no WSX attempted.  The WSX guys don’t have to succeed with that kind of money upfront.  But it has nothing to do with incompetence.  It doesn’t take a genius to realize there are MX fans all around the world who will attend SX races near them if they exist.  There’s an NFL Europe, it doesn’t exist because the US NFL is incompetent.  

It's irrelevant where the money comes from. They saw a market opportunity and I guarantee part of that was because of the dissatisfaction with Supercross. It's...

It's irrelevant where the money comes from. They saw a market opportunity and I guarantee part of that was because of the dissatisfaction with Supercross. It's worrisome for Feld that they have a huge budget, but good for us fans. 

It was said WSX exists because of Feld’s incompetence.  My statement says WSX exists because of the money they were handed.  It absolutely is irrelevant where the money came from, the point is that’s why it exists.  Not due to anyone else’s incompetence.  Sticking with the NFL example, the XFL exists also and also not due to anyone’s incompetence.

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3/4/2023 10:56am
enketchum wrote:
FELD is a publicly traded company and the C suite only has a fiduciary responsibility to make their stock holders happy. They don't have to care...

FELD is a publicly traded company and the C suite only has a fiduciary responsibility to make their stock holders happy. They don't have to care about anything else 

Really ? what is Felds current stock price?Wink

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3/4/2023 11:43am
BobbyMyers wrote:
Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross...

Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross people. Yer whole spiel is fairy dust speculation.

 

Carry on. 

So because Steve Matthes is friends with Prater and has him on Pulp, you think my “whole spiel is fairy dust.” I get it, you’re in denial. If you aren’t one of the people constantly dissatisfied, and you think Feld loves you, then why are you here to argue? You instead should be the one to carry on. 

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I can get plenty of friends who are not racing fans to a Supercross and they love it. They do a good job of providing a lot of entertainment from the pit party to the overall production. My wife actually loved supercross. I don’t think I could pay those same people to want to go to a nascar race or an Indy car race. 

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That is ridiculous.  What made WSX viable  is the influx or free money from the Saudi govt “investment” firm to the tune of $50 million. Without...

That is ridiculous.  What made WSX viable  is the influx or free money from the Saudi govt “investment” firm to the tune of $50 million. Without that, there is no WSX attempted.  The WSX guys don’t have to succeed with that kind of money upfront.  But it has nothing to do with incompetence.  It doesn’t take a genius to realize there are MX fans all around the world who will attend SX races near them if they exist.  There’s an NFL Europe, it doesn’t exist because the US NFL is incompetent.  

It's irrelevant where the money comes from. They saw a market opportunity and I guarantee part of that was because of the dissatisfaction with Supercross. It's...

It's irrelevant where the money comes from. They saw a market opportunity and I guarantee part of that was because of the dissatisfaction with Supercross. It's worrisome for Feld that they have a huge budget, but good for us fans. 

It was said WSX exists because of Feld’s incompetence.  My statement says WSX exists because of the money they were handed.  It absolutely is irrelevant where...

It was said WSX exists because of Feld’s incompetence.  My statement says WSX exists because of the money they were handed.  It absolutely is irrelevant where the money came from, the point is that’s why it exists.  Not due to anyone else’s incompetence.  Sticking with the NFL example, the XFL exists also and also not due to anyone’s incompetence.

You say it's because the money they were "handed". You think the investors don't consider opportunity costs for millions of dollars? My point is that if they felt that Feld was doing an amazing job and that they wouldn't be able to get any of the same riders to join, the same fans, etc., they might have thought twice about doing any of it. What do you think is going to happen when the series gets bigger and certain top riders sign up and bow out of supercross completely? That is 100% the goal, it certainly is not to prolong a series that they have no ties to. 

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3/4/2023 3:23pm
JJO741 wrote:
I can get plenty of friends who are not racing fans to a Supercross and they love it. They do a good job of providing a...

I can get plenty of friends who are not racing fans to a Supercross and they love it. They do a good job of providing a lot of entertainment from the pit party to the overall production. My wife actually loved supercross. I don’t think I could pay those same people to want to go to a nascar race or an Indy car race. 

I think we need to reiterate here that we are talking about the TV broadcast, at least that's what I have been referring to. Attending a race is a completely different experience. I have always enjoyed that. 

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3/4/2023 5:06pm
BobbyMyers wrote:
Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross...

Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross people. Yer whole spiel is fairy dust speculation.

 

Carry on. 

MX Guy wrote:
So because Steve Matthes is friends with Prater and has him on Pulp, you think my “whole spiel is fairy dust.” I get it, you’re in...

So because Steve Matthes is friends with Prater and has him on Pulp, you think my “whole spiel is fairy dust.” I get it, you’re in denial. If you aren’t one of the people constantly dissatisfied, and you think Feld loves you, then why are you here to argue? You instead should be the one to carry on. 

That's yer fairy ass speculative response? Go back to internet school. I understand that there is little to no internet curriculum in home schooling, so it's really not yer fault. 

3/6/2023 7:20am

I know that this thread is about the joke of a TV broadcast, but this morning I stumbled across an old thread where people were singing Feld's praises:

Someone Please Explain the AMA/LIVE NATION/JAM SPORTS/AIR Fiasco... - Moto-Related - Motocross Forums / Message Boards - Vital MX

Pretty interesting how the tables have turned, IMO.

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3/6/2023 12:13pm
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There are a lot of fans of Supercross that seem to think they are entitled to seeing changes in the broadcast, and even the racing. Whether...

There are a lot of fans of Supercross that seem to think they are entitled to seeing changes in the broadcast, and even the racing. Whether it’s because you pay for Peacock, because you support the industry, or what have you-if you’re one of those entitled fans, allow me to educate you on why Feld Entertainment doesn’t care about your opinion. This is not going to be sugar coated, you’re not going to like it. But hopefully I can change some perspectives and more people can be happy just seeing Supercross for what it is. 
 

Feld Entertainment is the owner and promoter of Monster Energy Supercross. They also own Monster Jam, Disney on Ice, Marvel Live, and Jurassic World Tour. What is different about the other properties of theirs when compared to Supercross? They’re not considered sports. Not by fans of the events, not by Feld, not by anyone. Unfortunately, the same can actually be said for Supercross. Supercross to Feld is not a sport. They don’t treat it like a sport, they haven’t since they acquired it, and never will. They aren’t in the business of professional sports, they never have been and never will be. They are in the entertainment business, and Supercross is an entertainment event. To them, you are paying to watch Disney on Ice for dirt bikes. And also unfortunately for us, Supercross likely receives a single digit percentage of the viewership that Disney on Ice does. 

So what does this mean? It means that all they care about is profit margin. As they should of course, they’re a business. And the sport has gotten more popular over the last few years. It has grown while we’ve been complaining. That’s because they don’t see us complaining, they don’t hear us complaining, they don’t care that we complain. We are a bunch of red necks consuming content and products at Feld’s benefit. They see us paying for Peacock to watch their event, and they see their profit margin increasing. Every decision they make, or don’t make, is to grow and/or help retain that profit margin. Decisions like cutting Semi’s to run more commercials, moving over to streaming and not paying for live TV slots, Triple Crowns to boost new viewer engagement, SMX to compete with WSX, it’s all smart business. They know you, the hardcore fan, will watch anyway. We’ve proven that. So what am I getting at?

My goal in explaining this is so that next time you wonder why they don’t fix something, you don’t have to wonder. Because, regardless of these facts, we can still be fans and enjoy Supercross for what it is: a show. I still do. It’s not that I don’t wish SX could be the F1 of dirt bikes, it’s that I know as long as Feld runs the show, it won’t be. 

Now, with that being said, what are your options? You only have two. Stop watching, or accept that your expectations will never be met and enjoy it for what it is. That’s all!

 

BobbyMyers wrote:
Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross...

Dave Prater and crew give a shit, they love this sport too. Feld Ent. may be on the paycheck but the races are run by Supercross people. Yer whole spiel is fairy dust speculation.

 

Carry on. 

Glad someone has some common sense.  

 

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