Mxgp vs ama pro motocross?

3/3/2023 2:00pm
southeast wrote:

Top ten from each series will race a 3 race series. 3 different tracks with a SX track for the final round.

No thanks. Zero desire to see GP riders wad up on a sx track

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southeast wrote:

Top ten from each series will race a 3 race series. 3 different tracks with a SX track for the final round.

No thanks. Zero desire to see GP riders wad up on a sx track

Lol.
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Super Motocross World Grand Prix Championship is coming. Dude that thing  will finish with races between eco building, Lazer helmets, Flying e motorcycle with no wheels, full of commercials of chicken wings andvery very tight gears. I imagine myself at 70 years old brain dead be pissed about how much my lovely sport has changed. 

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mxb2 wrote:
You mean like kroc,ferrandis,wilson, musquin did a few times also. Short memory huh.
Bonanza69 wrote:

You listed AMA riders!Some of you guys would have selected Roczen to compete for USA,short memory i guess!?

mxb2 wrote:
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your...
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your agenda. But here you are during sx season.

……they used to be…….EvilLaughingLaughingLaughing

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One country, 50 states. And spread out across a wide swath of the country.   Sooooo. Take a look at the euro continent, the origins of...

One country, 50 states.

And spread out across a wide swath of the country.

 

Sooooo.

Take a look at the euro continent, the origins of the GP series, and compare the spread across the continent to the spread across our nation.

 

You're seriously doing nothing but making a trolling ass out of yourself. 

But feel free to continue. 

Hey no need to get so defensive, it’s not personal. MXGP has more diversity in track layout & terrains, MXGP leaves the continent,  MXGP riders have...

Hey no need to get so defensive, it’s not personal.

MXGP has more diversity in track layout & terrains,

MXGP leaves the continent, 

MXGP riders have to deal with language barriers & foreign foods.

It’s way more of an adventure racing GPS, ask a multi season GP racer how many counties they have visited. AMA riders have it way easier & that’s why they choose to stay national riders. 

 

Spoonguy wrote:

You think the USA has no diversity in language or food? You think there is no difference between Arlington SX track, and Southwick?

Some of these people obviously have no idea just how big and diverse America is.  Go from Arizona to Seattle...from North Dakota to Florida...as varied as anywhere in the world. 

I think it matters more where the riders racing a championship are from, more so than where the races are held, that qualifies a series as a world championship.

Which is more worthy of world championship title...a bunch of riders from one country traveling around the world and racing in different countries. OR  A bunch of riders from all over the world, racing in one country?   I say the latter...As a world championship is supposed to represent the best riders in the world, from all over the world, racing on the same track at the same time...where those races are held (what country, what type of dirt, what food they eat, how far they have to travel) is inconsequential and doesn't matter as much.

And, in America there are riders racing from ALL over the world (including former world champs).  In the MXGP its the same...with one massive, glaring, and unavoidable omission...no Americans (and certainly no AMA champions). 

And because it goes without saying that Americans are among the best in the world at motocross, the fact than none of them think highly enough of MXGP to go race there, and because AMA has riders (including world champs) racing it from all over the world, in my opinion, knocks MXGP below the AMA nationals in terms of prestige...rendering MXGP as a "world championship" in name only, and not the most prestigious motocross championship.  MXGP is still awesome, with amazing riders, and amazing racing...but it's still below AMA in terms of prestige, in my opinion. 

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3/3/2023 2:14pm
southeast wrote:

Top ten from each series will race a 3 race series. 3 different tracks with a SX track for the final round.

No thanks. Zero desire to see GP riders wad up on a sx track

mxb2 wrote:
Lol.

If the GP riders came over to TRY and qualify for a SX race there'd be allot of injuries.

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3/3/2023 2:15pm
Bonanza69 wrote:

You listed AMA riders!Some of you guys would have selected Roczen to compete for USA,short memory i guess!?

mxb2 wrote:
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your...
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your agenda. But here you are during sx season.
Bonanza69 wrote:
……they used to be…….

……they used to be…….EvilLaughingLaughingLaughing

You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it wasnt worth it to him anymore. Guess he has no country pride either.
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mxb2 wrote:
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it...
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it wasnt worth it to him anymore. Guess he has no country pride either.

……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA riders.

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mxb2 wrote:
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it...
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it wasnt worth it to him anymore. Guess he has no country pride either.
Bonanza69 wrote:
……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA...

……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA riders.

He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to prep for sx, marv was mad at the french federation. Lol. But ac tomac wanted time to prep and the clueless lost their minds. Lmao. Let me know when the usa gets passed for wins. Foh.
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No thanks. Zero desire to see GP riders wad up on a sx track

mxb2 wrote:
Lol.
southeast wrote:

If the GP riders came over to TRY and qualify for a SX race there'd be allot of injuries.

Woohoo,how about your SX specialists who are injured during their entire career:Cianciarulo,Forkner………..

 

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mxb2 wrote:
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it...
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it wasnt worth it to him anymore. Guess he has no country pride either.
Bonanza69 wrote:
……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA...

……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA riders.

mxb2 wrote:
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to...
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to prep for sx, marv was mad at the french federation. Lol. But ac tomac wanted time to prep and the clueless lost their minds. Lmao. Let me know when the usa gets passed for wins. Foh.

A lot of excuses……

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3/3/2023 2:38pm
mxb2 wrote:
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it...
You. Missed the point, they werent gonna ride for the usa, and turned down the invite from their country. Do some research even wilson said it wasnt worth it to him anymore. Guess he has no country pride either.
Bonanza69 wrote:
……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA...

……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA riders.

23 wins usa. Lmfao, foh .
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Bonanza69 wrote:
……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA...

……turned down the invite……Yeah,a valid excuse for AMA riders,not for GP riders.Do some research about Ferrandis why he skiped mxdn,thats the prototype of excuses for AMA riders.

mxb2 wrote:
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to...
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to prep for sx, marv was mad at the french federation. Lol. But ac tomac wanted time to prep and the clueless lost their minds. Lmao. Let me know when the usa gets passed for wins. Foh.
Bonanza69 wrote:

A lot of excuses……

Yep your right the mxgp guys have plenty.
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mxb2 wrote:
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to...
He said he didnt like sand,. And he is french and wd have rode for the french team. Figure it out. And kroc wanted time to prep for sx, marv was mad at the french federation. Lol. But ac tomac wanted time to prep and the clueless lost their minds. Lmao. Let me know when the usa gets passed for wins. Foh.
Bonanza69 wrote:

A lot of excuses……

mxb2 wrote:
Yep your right the mxgp guys have plenty.

Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they proved my point.

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3/3/2023 2:48pm
Bonanza69 wrote:

A lot of excuses……

mxb2 wrote:
Yep your right the mxgp guys have plenty.
Bonanza69 wrote:
Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they...

Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they proved my point.

Lol. Skipped what nationals,. Only kroc did that, and news flash again he is german.
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep your right the mxgp guys have plenty.
Bonanza69 wrote:
Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they...

Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they proved my point.

mxb2 wrote:
Lol. Skipped what nationals,. Only kroc did that, and news flash again he is german.

I see,you have your USA glasses on.Well,you refuse a lot of facts.USA USA USA………

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Spoonguy wrote:
Over MXGPs history, there have been plenty of top tier riders who were racing as privateers or what we would consider privateer status now. George Jobe...

Over MXGPs history, there have been plenty of top tier riders who were racing as privateers or what we would consider privateer status now. George Jobe on a privateer Honda, Carlquist on a privateer Kawasaki, etc.. In today's format they would not be welcome in the MotoGP paddock. It is fine if people still think MXGP is a premier series, I guess that helps Luongo's pocketbook.  And some of the riders are arguably faster on certain track styles than anyone in the world, there is no question of the level of skill amongst the top tier riders, but the prestige is gone.  The reality is fast young riders from all over the world come to race in the USA, and those that don't want to. As ethnocentric as it sounds, fast young American riders don't give a shit about MXGP, neither do most American fans, at all. Nobody wants to race in Vietnam, Indonesia, or Patagonia. Does anyone think any of the riders lining up for Anaheim this year were hoping to get a wildcard entry for the Vietnamese MXGP?

You sound like a chest beating Murican that really doesn't know much about racing.

 

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southeast wrote:

If the GP riders came over to TRY and qualify for a SX race there'd be allot of injuries.

No shit Sherlock.  MXGP and MX2 rides focus on outdoors and don't have SX practice tracks.  

 

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Bonanza69 wrote:
Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they...

Wrong,AMA guys,you confound something.SX is the reason they are in the US.Mxdn and MXGP are real motocross,stamp it.Some of your favorite riders skipping the nationals,so they proved my point.

mxb2 wrote:
Lol. Skipped what nationals,. Only kroc did that, and news flash again he is german.
Bonanza69 wrote:

I see,you have your USA glasses on.Well,you refuse a lot of facts.USA USA USA………

Naw just facts and you dont like facts. Like i said let me know when someone passes 23 mxon wins lmao,. Foh
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Bonanza69 wrote:

You listed AMA riders!Some of you guys would have selected Roczen to compete for USA,short memory i guess!?

mxb2 wrote:
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your...
Doesnt matter they used to be mxgp riders,. Guess its not important to them. Just gave a few excuses not to do it. Whatever fits your agenda. But here you are during sx season.
Bonanza69 wrote:
……they used to be…….

……they used to be…….EvilLaughingLaughingLaughing

Oh but when ferrandis won the 450 title,all the euro fanboys appeared,. Now he isnt a mxgp guy. How convenient
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Naw just facts and you dont like facts. Like i said let me know when someone passes 23 mxon wins lmao,. Foh

You‘re repeating yourself,are you drunk?

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Naw just facts and you dont like facts. Like i said let me know when someone passes 23 mxon wins lmao,. Foh
Bonanza69 wrote:

You‘re repeating yourself,are you drunk?

Are you , i have to repeat it because you are slow and arent accepting facts. I asked what rider skipped the nationals and of course you avoided the question.
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mxb2 wrote:
Oh but when ferrandis won the 450 title,all the euro fanboys appeared,. Now he isnt a mxgp guy. How convenient

You have forgotten the US fanboys,didn‘t you?

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mxb2 wrote:
Oh but when ferrandis won the 450 title,all the euro fanboys appeared,. Now he isnt a mxgp guy. How convenient
Bonanza69 wrote:

You have forgotten the US fanboys,didn‘t you?

So whats the answer to my question
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mxb2 wrote:
Oh but when ferrandis won the 450 title,all the euro fanboys appeared,. Now he isnt a mxgp guy. How convenient
Bonanza69 wrote:

You have forgotten the US fanboys,didn‘t you?

So is dylan a mxgp guy or ama?. So we are clear.
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Haha aah the Vital of old is back!

On the topic.. I'd rather the top 10 or 15 of GP riders get to compete in the final zooperdooper rounds and have a round in a country other than the states..

Sorry it will NEVER be a 'World Championship' if it's only held in one country with riders that only compete in that one country

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Haha aah the Vital of old is back! On the topic.. I'd rather the top 10 or 15 of GP riders get to compete in the...

Haha aah the Vital of old is back!

On the topic.. I'd rather the top 10 or 15 of GP riders get to compete in the final zooperdooper rounds and have a round in a country other than the states..

Sorry it will NEVER be a 'World Championship' if it's only held in one country with riders that only compete in that one country

So if some of the best riders, representing countries from all over the world, came together and raced a series in one country...you wouldn't consider that a true world championship...

But if, Johnny Licks raceway decided to take their local yokal series (with only their local talent) on the road, and held a race or two in America, one or two in Mexico, and one or two in Canada-different countries-you'd consider that-with its subpar talent-a world championship simply because the races are held in more than one country?  And as a world championship, you'd rank that series-in prestige-above the series with the some of best riders representing countries from all over the world who happen to race in one country?

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mxb2 wrote:
So is dylan a mxgp guy or ama?. So we are clear.

All the guys racing in the US are AMA riders,the focus is on SX,the nationality is irrelevant.Is it this hard to understand?

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So if some of the best riders, representing countries from all over the world, came together and raced a series in one country...you wouldn't consider that...

So if some of the best riders, representing countries from all over the world, came together and raced a series in one country...you wouldn't consider that a true world championship...

But if, Johnny Licks raceway decided to take their local yokal series (with only their local talent) on the road, and held a race or two in America, one or two in Mexico, and one or two in Canada-different countries-you'd consider that-with its subpar talent-a world championship simply because the races are held in more than one country?  And as a world championship, you'd rank that series-in prestige-above the series with the some of best riders representing countries from all over the world who happen to race in one country?

This,the typical american way of thinking!lol.I give you the answer,it has to do with SX.

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mxb2 wrote:
So is dylan a mxgp guy or ama?. So we are clear.
Bonanza69 wrote:

All the guys racing in the US are AMA riders,the focus is on SX,the nationality is irrelevant.Is it this hard to understand?

Hmmmm. Convenient now. But when he won a title. The euros cdnt type fast enough about a mxgp winning a title. But cant race for usa mxon. Team. Lol. Yea dylans american. Foh
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