Is Christian Craig really just a 10-12 guy?

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1/30/2023 7:16pm
ca23 wrote:

how long is his contract with Husky?

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2 years.

this could also be an issue. struggle the first year knowing u have a 2 year deal. when contract season comes around do good and get another 2 ear deal. he should be on 1 year performance based deals. as should alot of riders 

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1/30/2023 7:21pm
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He told Lewis he’s going to start testing today, so hopefully that helps. Is it normal to start testing a month into the season?  Seems like...

He told Lewis he’s going to start testing today, so hopefully that helps. Is it normal to start testing a month into the season?  Seems like a bold strategy Cotton

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This is a byproduct of the bakers factory. I've seen it mentioned before, they don't really have you do any midweek testing, just motos and fitness...

This is a byproduct of the bakers factory. I've seen it mentioned before, they don't really have you do any midweek testing, just motos and fitness training. One of the assumed reasons that Webb struggled so much last year with the new bike

Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed to be going plenty fast and Christian was allegedly faster than him daily in December.  Now Christian says the bike is problem, but the press release says his mentality is the issue.  Hmm.....

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Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed...

Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed to be going plenty fast and Christian was allegedly faster than him daily in December.  Now Christian says the bike is problem, but the press release says his mentality is the issue.  Hmm.....

There is a press release that blames his head for the problems?

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I watched the first episode of his vlog too and at the end Aldon is telling him "you have a very bad habit of once something doesn't go perfect it ruins your mindset"......Think that is pretty telling

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Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed...

Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed to be going plenty fast and Christian was allegedly faster than him daily in December.  Now Christian says the bike is problem, but the press release says his mentality is the issue.  Hmm.....

MxAddic wrote:

There is a press release that blames his head for the problems?

“A2 started off better. I put in better times in qualifying,“ Craig said. “I'm just struggling a little bit mentally, just trying to get more comfortable. I'll keep working on that and try to improve for Houston. All-around I'll just try to take the positives from the night, know that I'm capable of more, and try to keep working toward my goals.”

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1/31/2023 7:36am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2023 7:37am
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I watched the first episode of his vlog too and at the end Aldon is telling him "you have a very bad habit of once something...

I watched the first episode of his vlog too and at the end Aldon is telling him "you have a very bad habit of once something doesn't go perfect it ruins your mindset"......Think that is pretty telling

I noticed that too, Ive always watched his vlogs and he seems sort of burnt out right now I wonder if the Bakers style training just isn't for him.

When you compare it to how the Star team trains at the goat farm it looks like there was so much more comradery between the guys but still pushed each other, I mean look at Craig and Nichols both got off their bikes at the starting line to congratulate their old team mate Kitchen after his win last week. Dude is in shape they brought that up in the semi after A1 as well saying thats obviously not the issue. 

I never get the Craig hate, dude has literally always been a class act it and seems to always makes time for fans. Maybe because he puts so much of behind the scenes out there good and bad. I like Webb but dude is a robot I think that kind of hurts him with the fans.

I think some people are still mad that Craig didn't drive a sprinter around privateering the 450 class last year instead of taking a factory ride and a fat championship bonus in the 250 class. 

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1/31/2023 9:06am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2023 9:08am

So, if it's his head and his bike, that's 2 things he needs to fix instead of 1. Seems to me that could be more problematic.

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1/31/2023 9:34am
Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed...

Webb was not at Baker's Factory last year.....and it is the riders responsibility to set up the bike with the help of the Team.  Mookie seemed to be going plenty fast and Christian was allegedly faster than him daily in December.  Now Christian says the bike is problem, but the press release says his mentality is the issue.  Hmm.....

MxAddic wrote:

There is a press release that blames his head for the problems?

He must have been complaining about the bike to the team and they may have said "you are out of your F***ing mind" so that's where they came up with the "head problems" Wink 

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1/31/2023 10:21am
He's 31 now.  Not many riders are getting better or even holding ground at this age.  His reaction time is slowing, and pain from injuries is...

He's 31 now.  Not many riders are getting better or even holding ground at this age.  His reaction time is slowing, and pain from injuries is adding up. 

 

And in 2018, he got 4th at the last two races when injuries had depleted the field, and was finishing among the same level rider as now. 

Hard Disagree here. Look at Tomac, Anderson, Barcia, Malcolm. All these guys are over 30 and you could argue that they've never been better. I'm not...

Hard Disagree here. Look at Tomac, Anderson, Barcia, Malcolm. All these guys are over 30 and you could argue that they've never been better.

I'm not saying that Craig should be running with them AT ALL. Honestly, during the race I was a little disappointed when I saw him in 12th again. But then I looked at who was in front of him. If someone asked me if he was better than any of those guys, I would say no. so maybe he is just a 10-12 guy. But all that means is that the top 12 guys are FAST AF. 

First of all, I said "NOT MANY riders are getting better or even holding ground at this age".  I did not say that none are.  Three of the 4 you listed are 30, and the other is 29, so none are "over 30" yet. More importantly, all are younger than Craig. But back to the important thing.  Barcia is clearly past his prime. He's still fast, but he's not a real threat to Tomac, Webb, Anderson, or Sexton for race wins.  If they all have a bad race, he might pick up a win, but he's not beating them on merit anymore. 

Tomac and Anderson are still at or near their prime.  Eli is eyeing retirement.  He knows he is coming towards the end of his time at the top.  Anderson is still two years younger than Craig.  He's still fast, but we don't know that he is going to be the same in 2025.  At the top end of sport, the effects of age comes on quickly.  And Malcolm is so inconsistent, who really knows what his peak is or was, and when he hit it?

All of the guys we are talking about are very fast, and very capable riders.  Some moreso than others.  I'd put Craig in the second tier of the current pro crop: riders that I wouldn't be surprised to see take a win, but would need everything to play out perfectly for it to happen.  The problem is that there are 6 or 7 other riders like him, and on that day, only one of them will get it.   He needs the top 4 or 5 to all have a bad night, and for that to happen on the night that he's doing better than the other 2nd tier riders. 

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1/31/2023 1:01pm

He'll need a start.  At this point he isn't running down guys like the #1, #2, #23, #21, #94, etc, he has to start with them and ride like a mad man to hang in there.

I think he can run with and beat the 6-10 place guys, but he isn't great at coming back from a poor start.

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1/31/2023 3:31pm

Does anyone know what happened between Craig and Justin Hill at A2? I was watching Swap's How Was Your Weekend last night, and Hill said Craig crossed jumped him, and he better watch out, because there's some payback coming. 

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1/31/2023 4:47pm

WAs listening to him on Gypsy and he sounded like he is a little overwhelmed by the speed. Talking about how he is battling like crazy for 14th. I think he can be a 8-12 guy by the end of the season

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1/31/2023 5:21pm

he's finishing where he should be, all riders in front of him have always finished ahead of him.  Also, last year was the weakest West class I've watched.

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2/1/2023 1:26am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2023 3:29am

This is the classic example of valuing the 250 class way too high. 

The top 10 in the 450 class is stacked at the moment when everyone is healthy. And i think the US 250 class has been in a relatively weak state for a couple of years now. Look at Ferrandis, dominated 250 SX and he is basically a 5th place rider in his 3rd season when everyone is healthy at the moment. Craig being 10th in a healthy 450 SX class is where i expect him to be.

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He started up front on the yamaha a lot. He’s one the best starters in the class. Something tells me he doesn’t  wanna start up front...

He started up front on the yamaha a lot. He’s one the best starters in the class. Something tells me he doesn’t  wanna start up front and go backwards 

Look at Nicoletti last weekend with a good start and a bad start.  Starts are so important.  

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2/1/2023 10:23pm

Big difference when you’re not racing teenagers anymore

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2/1/2023 10:40pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2023 10:43pm
Motofinne wrote:
This is the classic example of valuing the 250 class way too high.  The top 10 in the 450 class is stacked at the moment when...

This is the classic example of valuing the 250 class way too high. 

The top 10 in the 450 class is stacked at the moment when everyone is healthy. And i think the US 250 class has been in a relatively weak state for a couple of years now. Look at Ferrandis, dominated 250 SX and he is basically a 5th place rider in his 3rd season when everyone is healthy at the moment. Craig being 10th in a healthy 450 SX class is where i expect him to be.

Agreed about the 250 value statement but there are outliers and like you said 250 class has been weak in recent years, plessinger people seemed to forget a lot went his way to win the 250 title and it was a weak field when he did it, I think Justin Cooper will find that out in his 450 career.

Ferrandis is a funny one he was truly something on that 250f I think his lack of SX shows in the big boy class but going off his 250 career he's good enough to podium on the 450, he just needs to work it out.

 

To CC's comments about how he rode and how he feels just shows once again how much this sport or any sport or discipline is mental, look at all our greats all of them had strong mental, it took a long time for Eli to get his mental on point and look what he's doing now.

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5/10 guy but it seems that he struggle bad with forks and shock set up. He has not the same feeling like when he was on Kayaba.Pretty obv that CC is a very sensitive rider.

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