Rebuilding a private motocross track on someone else’s land

As the title states. I found someone that has a private track on land they own. It’s been around for a few years but has been sitting for about a year now. I’m in talks with putting money up to have the track rebuilt to have access to come ride whenever I would like and possibly have some open ride days that would be invite only. What can I do to protect my investment? I was planning on having a Land use agreement to have as a binding contract to have access for a set time.
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JustMX
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9/16/2022 5:23am
lease it just like you would any other piece of property
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9/16/2022 5:23am Edited Date/Time 9/16/2022 5:23am
Step 1: Send me the info so I can come ride whenever I want to as well.

Step 2: get off vital and go ask a lawyer instead of a bunch of vitards.

Step 3: Include me in the land use contract so I can protect my riding rights.

All jokes aside I think you’re on the right track. But seriously I would ask a lawyer to draft up some sort of agreement. The last thing you want is to put in all this work all for the land owner to kick you out and ride their newly revived track. Hopefully it isn’t a touchy subject with the land owner. I would discuss some form of contract before I put any money/time into the track.
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9/16/2022 6:07am
Lease is the only way to do it, if it's on paper everyone knows what is allowed and what is expected of them. My club leases a few thousand acres and we have set times we can ride/camp/set up for races and set times we can't be on property such as hunting season at certain times of the day.

If you set up usage as something like Wednesday after 3:00 pm until dark and weekends before 2:00 pm you won't wear out your welcome and they won't get sick of you.
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JustMX
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9/16/2022 8:10am
and if i were the landowner I would spell out specifically how many riders you can have at your "invite" only ride days, what days and time frame you could ride, and probably require you to carry insurance that protects them.

Hell, I would include securing the property with fences. gates, and signage.

You would appear pretty legit if you got ahead and mentioned all that in your lease.

You may want to include something in it that you can level the track when you are done with it so if they boot you out they don't benefit from your work unless you choose to leave it.
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9/16/2022 9:52am
Hopefully no one gets hurt on it that wasnt cleared by you and track under your name.
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9/16/2022 9:57am
JustMX wrote:
lease it just like you would any other piece of property
Find out if the neighbors have anything to say about it. (If any).
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9/16/2022 11:50am Edited Date/Time 9/16/2022 12:06pm
Imagine every bad thing that can happen and deal with those issues up front, including your exit strategy and who pays for what if/when it winds down.

Have a lawyer guide and document those agreements.

Don't assume that if things go sideways your investment is protected. You can win a lawsuit that says so-and-so owes X dollars, but if so-and-so has no money you don't recover. You should assume that at some point it will wind down with no return on investment apart from being able to ride on the property,

Get to know an insurance broker who likes bikes.

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9/16/2022 2:41pm
First question I would ask is why is it not in use anymore? Was it shut down by the County, a HOA, or did the owner just get tired of it.

I know a guy who did what you are wanting to do last year. It only lasted about 6 months before the property owner pulled the rug out from underneath him. The crappy thing is you can have contracts and agreements in place, but if they are violated you still gotta pay more money to go to court.

Not trying to discourage you, just make sure you look at it from all angles like Fresh Top End suggested.
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9/16/2022 3:12pm
Liability nightmare....you better have insane insurance coverage.

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9/16/2022 3:53pm
If you are looking to "protect your investment" you already have your answer. Any money you put into improving someone else's land will be a loss. If you want to use your own money to have a private place to ride then its not a bad deal but in no way is it a investment because there will be no return on your investment other than giving you a place to ride which is cool. If you charge people to ride on a invite only deal then you are making yourself liable as well as the land owner. The fewer people who ride there the better Wink Cool
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11/8/2022 3:28am Edited Date/Time 11/8/2022 7:14am
A land use agreement is a good stage in protecting your investment. But later, you could contact the current owner and convince him to sell you this motocross track. Also, to avoid losing money, you could arrange local competitions. Of course, to avoid contacting bad people, you should choose those you invite. I can offer you a lawyer who is currently protecting my interests. He takes on various cases, so you can talk to him about your interests. Several times I've faced injustice at work. My chances of getting compensation were always high, but my bosses refused to pay. So this lawyer helped me to win those cases. Write me in PM. I'll send his number.
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