2000 Mules.

6/27/2022 7:36pm
tuggy450 wrote:
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is. They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power...
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is.
They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power.
It's never about what is moral or ethical with these people, only what you can legally get away with, or illegally get away with without any consequences.
ToolMaker wrote:
Well que up the stop watch because everyone who said "show me the evidence" will now be saying "that's not enough evidence" Wink
tuggy450 wrote:
Problem is they will say it is legal. like Cofranscisco. It shouldn't be, and clearly the intent of the law was to make sure this stuff...
Problem is they will say it is legal. like Cofranscisco. It shouldn't be, and clearly the intent of the law was to make sure this stuff doesn't happen.
Like any law you don't enforce, you enable more of it to occur. Not everyone is an idiot, so clearly the intent of not enforcing the law, or strengthening the law, has the intent to make this sort of thing more commonplace.

But don't you worry, there's not enough of it to change the outcome. So if there is not enough of it to change the outcome, why are you allowing it or doing it again?Whistling
It doesn't matter what they say. The link to apply is right there. The agent can only be an agent for 1 person unless the others are from the agent's household. So even if you argue the "agent" lives at the care facility, legally the care facility does not qualify as 1 household. So, illegal.
It's not a grey area. Can you hear the keyboards humming?
"Google, help me wiggle out of this"
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Biden executive order 14019. Directs hundreds of federal agencies to conduct participation in voter registration, educate people on misinformation, work with NGOs, etc.
After failing to pass legislation to federalist and take control over state voting laws this EO will use federal agencies like the labor dept, Medicare, HUD, etc to set up voter registration among other things and help all the disenfranchised people make the right choices about voting.
HUD employees will guide peoe who rely on public housing on which party will and won't continue to provide benefits.
The DOJ and Biden administration refuse FOIA requests and won't provide any info on specifics about this.
I watched 5 states get stolen on election night.
These people are blatantly lawless and aren't afraid anymore to do anything right in front of our faces.
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SCR wrote:
Biden executive order 14019. Directs hundreds of federal agencies to conduct participation in voter registration, educate people on misinformation, work with NGOs, etc. After failing to...
Biden executive order 14019. Directs hundreds of federal agencies to conduct participation in voter registration, educate people on misinformation, work with NGOs, etc.
After failing to pass legislation to federalist and take control over state voting laws this EO will use federal agencies like the labor dept, Medicare, HUD, etc to set up voter registration among other things and help all the disenfranchised people make the right choices about voting.
HUD employees will guide peoe who rely on public housing on which party will and won't continue to provide benefits.
The DOJ and Biden administration refuse FOIA requests and won't provide any info on specifics about this.
I watched 5 states get stolen on election night.
These people are blatantly lawless and aren't afraid anymore to do anything right in front of our faces.
Republicans have won one popular vote in a presidential election since 1988. The majority of the people literally have not voted Republican at all aside from 2004 since then. But yeah I’m sure 5 states got stolen and that’s why Biden won.
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Supposedly 81M people voted for this clown.

A poll just out by a NY Post owned polling company showed 69% of the voters do not want him running again.

Makes the argument that it wasn’t a stolen election seem even stronger.

Yeah, it was all on the up and up.

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6/28/2022 7:55am
The left’s playbook

START WITH:
1: Accuse the other side of doing everything we are doing
2: Accuse the other side of being racist , homophobic, religious zealots
Conspiracy Theorists, Smelly, Uneducated
WHEN THEY CATCH US: (inevitable)
1: Deny everything
2: Claim they have no evidence, focus on a specific thing to draw attention
away from the main topic and change the specific thing often to keep the
conversation away from the real issue.
3: Rapidly change the subject and accuse the other side of being racist ,
homophobic, religious zealots, Conspiracy theorists, Smelly, Uneducated
4: When they catch us in a lie (and they will), silence their voices so it seems like they
are just a small group that has no support and repeat 1,2, and 3
Also start to add memes to ridicule them.
5: Change the vernacular to academic verbiage to give the impression you’re more educated
6: When everything has failed, blame them. NEVER ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG
7: Run as fast as you can to a new topic to pull the attention from being wrong

What did I miss?
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That is pure gold and very true😂
6/28/2022 9:23am
Gworm wrote:
Supposedly 81M people voted for this clown. A poll just out by a NY Post owned polling company showed 69% of the voters do not want...
Supposedly 81M people voted for this clown.

A poll just out by a NY Post owned polling company showed 69% of the voters do not want him running again.

Makes the argument that it wasn’t a stolen election seem even stronger.

Yeah, it was all on the up and up.

If those 81M were anything like most of the voters I know who voted for Biden, they didn't want Biden running the first time. Yet, they wanted someone else even less in 2020.
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6/28/2022 9:42am
ToolMaker wrote:
How can you say nothing was done wrong? "local rehabilitation and long-term care facilities" have been legally determined NOT the same household. Read the condition of...
How can you say nothing was done wrong? "local rehabilitation and long-term care facilities" have been legally
determined NOT the same household. Read the condition of who can be a designated agent.
https://www.vote.pa.gov/Resources/Documents/Authorize-Designated-Agent-…
So now everyone of those ballots are illegal, yes?
TM
tuggy450 wrote:
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is. They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power...
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is.
They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power.
It's never about what is moral or ethical with these people, only what you can legally get away with, or illegally get away with without any consequences.
ToolMaker wrote:
Well que up the stop watch because everyone who said "show me the evidence" will now be saying "that's not enough evidence" Wink
6/28/2022 10:39am
tuggy450 wrote:
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is. They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power...
No it's legal because they, Cofranscisco and her co-conspirators say it is.
They'll fight any election security regulations as long as they can remain in power.
It's never about what is moral or ethical with these people, only what you can legally get away with, or illegally get away with without any consequences.
ToolMaker wrote:
Well que up the stop watch because everyone who said "show me the evidence" will now be saying "that's not enough evidence" Wink
Mx746 wrote:
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author?
"The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”
So were they living in the same room? That's what the text says.
Show your evidence and not some convoluted interpretation. Because if Nancy has a room #. That's her frigging address. So now you have to show proof that the care facility doesn't differentiate room #s.
Show your evidence. Have you ever been to a care facility that doesn't have room #s that the tenant isn't paying for "that room" with their personal belongings in the closet?
Read the link, the requirement is that the voters(s) live in the same household as the agent.
So first, prove the agent lives there. I want to see their drivers license with address that shows the care facility listed. Show your evidence.

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6/28/2022 10:47am
ToolMaker wrote:
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike" Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell, "Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver...
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike"

Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell,
"Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver of inflation in America?"
Fed Chair Powell's response,
"No. Inflation was high, certainly before the war in Ukraine broke out."

The thing is with the lefties, they have so many conspiracy theories, as soon as you question
their narrative they move on to another conspiracy. And with the media parroting their talking
points till 30 seconds later when the next new conspiracy theory comes out, they get away with it.
Which is why they had to censor (disappear) anyone who questioned their narrative to make it
seem like if you asked questions you're some sort of minority.
Here's the thing, I love my country, I believe there is enough reason to have a legit investigation.
I know we can never change what happened but we can change the future by knowing the past.
TM
jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
I’m gonna step in again to apologize and assure that my fellow countryman commenting here is not the average Canadian and the majority of us are not this obnoxious and arrogant.
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6/28/2022 11:18am
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
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6/28/2022 11:23am
ToolMaker wrote:
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike" Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell, "Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver...
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike"

Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell,
"Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver of inflation in America?"
Fed Chair Powell's response,
"No. Inflation was high, certainly before the war in Ukraine broke out."

The thing is with the lefties, they have so many conspiracy theories, as soon as you question
their narrative they move on to another conspiracy. And with the media parroting their talking
points till 30 seconds later when the next new conspiracy theory comes out, they get away with it.
Which is why they had to censor (disappear) anyone who questioned their narrative to make it
seem like if you asked questions you're some sort of minority.
Here's the thing, I love my country, I believe there is enough reason to have a legit investigation.
I know we can never change what happened but we can change the future by knowing the past.
TM
jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
swordfish wrote:
I’m gonna step in again to apologize and assure that my fellow countryman commenting here is not the average Canadian and the majority of us are...
I’m gonna step in again to apologize and assure that my fellow countryman commenting here is not the average Canadian and the majority of us are not this obnoxious and arrogant.
My personal experience with Canucks (am I allowed to say that) has been pretty awesome. A few years back I posted my son was going up for vacation and bringing his bike. Didn't take long till someone reached out to show some awesome riding. He has a friend for life now.
We have some odd nutwings here too.
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6/28/2022 11:25am
philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
Ghislane is on suicide watch for some reason? Whistling
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philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
ToolMaker wrote:
Ghislane is on suicide watch for some reason? Whistling
Lets hope she doesnt manage to shoot herself in both temples.
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6/28/2022 11:30am
philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
Hope you’re watching the live Jan 6th hearing now Phil…
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jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
swordfish wrote:
I’m gonna step in again to apologize and assure that my fellow countryman commenting here is not the average Canadian and the majority of us are...
I’m gonna step in again to apologize and assure that my fellow countryman commenting here is not the average Canadian and the majority of us are not this obnoxious and arrogant.
ToolMaker wrote:
My personal experience with Canucks (am I allowed to say that) has been pretty awesome. A few years back I posted my son was going up...
My personal experience with Canucks (am I allowed to say that) has been pretty awesome. A few years back I posted my son was going up for vacation and bringing his bike. Didn't take long till someone reached out to show some awesome riding. He has a friend for life now.
We have some odd nutwings here too.
TM
I’ve had people do the same for me in both the US and Canada. Lots of good folk out there that just wanna live a good life. Live and let live. Used to be a very common theme and feeling in Canada.
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6/28/2022 12:14pm
philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
ToolMaker wrote:
Ghislane is on suicide watch for some reason? Whistling
philG wrote:
Lets hope she doesnt manage to shoot herself in both temples.
Well you have to be thorough with things like that, the first shot might not be enough. Let's not forget about the planning involved. She has to do it precisely whey the cameras are not recording and the guards are asleep.
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Hope you’re watching the live Jan 6th hearing now Phil…
I dont need to, we have seen the script.
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6/29/2022 7:07am
philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
Hope you’re watching the live Jan 6th hearing now Phil…
I haven't watched any of it I'll wait for it to come out on video. But I heard that Trump was throwing ketchup bottles and all the good china at the Attorney General.
Then he tried to commandeer the Presidential limousine and a gun from a secrete service agent so he could storm the capitol. When they tried to stop him he started strangling people and screaming I'm the effing president.
Meanwhile inflation is transitory, smoking Joe is off pretending to look for barrels of oil, and the border czar hasn't been to the border per se, but she,her they, says business is booming and there are no supply chain problems for fetanayl, child trafficking, and cheap labor which will help bring down inflation with lower wages.
The adults are back in charge. Trust the plan.

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6/29/2022 7:16am
philG wrote:
So it looks like the Sargeant at Arms on Jan 6th has died suddenly.

Thats the 5th one.

Died of coincidence, no doubt.
Hope you’re watching the live Jan 6th hearing now Phil…
SCR wrote:
I haven't watched any of it I'll wait for it to come out on video. But I heard that Trump was throwing ketchup bottles and all...
I haven't watched any of it I'll wait for it to come out on video. But I heard that Trump was throwing ketchup bottles and all the good china at the Attorney General.
Then he tried to commandeer the Presidential limousine and a gun from a secrete service agent so he could storm the capitol. When they tried to stop him he started strangling people and screaming I'm the effing president.
Meanwhile inflation is transitory, smoking Joe is off pretending to look for barrels of oil, and the border czar hasn't been to the border per se, but she,her they, says business is booming and there are no supply chain problems for fetanayl, child trafficking, and cheap labor which will help bring down inflation with lower wages.
The adults are back in charge. Trust the plan.

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6/29/2022 10:53am Edited Date/Time 6/29/2022 10:56am
ToolMaker wrote:
Well que up the stop watch because everyone who said "show me the evidence" will now be saying "that's not enough evidence" Wink
Mx746 wrote:
ToolMaker wrote:
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author? "The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is...
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author?
"The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”
So were they living in the same room? That's what the text says.
Show your evidence and not some convoluted interpretation. Because if Nancy has a room #. That's her frigging address. So now you have to show proof that the care facility doesn't differentiate room #s.
Show your evidence. Have you ever been to a care facility that doesn't have room #s that the tenant isn't paying for "that room" with their personal belongings in the closet?
Read the link, the requirement is that the voters(s) live in the same household as the agent.
So first, prove the agent lives there. I want to see their drivers license with address that shows the care facility listed. Show your evidence.

You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they are then further scrutinized, and determinations are made concerning the events on a case by case basis right?

Ballots that are deposited illegally can still be legal ballots. Pennsylvania requires registered voters to submit an annual request to receive absentee ballots and supply proof of identification as part of that process. Election officials also verify drop box ballots before counting them.
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6/29/2022 10:57am
ToolMaker wrote:
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike" Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell, "Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver...
Here's another whopper, "The Putin Price Hike"

Sen Bill Hagerty to Fed Chair Powell,
"Would you say that the war in Ukraine is the primary driver of inflation in America?"
Fed Chair Powell's response,
"No. Inflation was high, certainly before the war in Ukraine broke out."

The thing is with the lefties, they have so many conspiracy theories, as soon as you question
their narrative they move on to another conspiracy. And with the media parroting their talking
points till 30 seconds later when the next new conspiracy theory comes out, they get away with it.
Which is why they had to censor (disappear) anyone who questioned their narrative to make it
seem like if you asked questions you're some sort of minority.
Here's the thing, I love my country, I believe there is enough reason to have a legit investigation.
I know we can never change what happened but we can change the future by knowing the past.
TM
jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your...
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your own unborn child or to teach 4y olds about anal sex. Yeesh.
Got a link to the teaching 4 year olds how to have anal sex?
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That might be the creepiest question ever.
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6/29/2022 11:20am Edited Date/Time 6/29/2022 11:21am
jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your...
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your own unborn child or to teach 4y olds about anal sex. Yeesh.
jjavaman wrote:
Got a link to the teaching 4 year olds how to have anal sex?
Google is pretty powerful.

One of many: (but you already knew that)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisconsin-school-district-provides-sexua…

and stellar job ignoring the very point being made. But you're a lib, so I shouldn't expect anything different.
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6/29/2022 11:26am
Mx746 wrote:
ToolMaker wrote:
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author? "The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is...
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author?
"The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”
So were they living in the same room? That's what the text says.
Show your evidence and not some convoluted interpretation. Because if Nancy has a room #. That's her frigging address. So now you have to show proof that the care facility doesn't differentiate room #s.
Show your evidence. Have you ever been to a care facility that doesn't have room #s that the tenant isn't paying for "that room" with their personal belongings in the closet?
Read the link, the requirement is that the voters(s) live in the same household as the agent.
So first, prove the agent lives there. I want to see their drivers license with address that shows the care facility listed. Show your evidence.

Mx746 wrote:
You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they...
You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they are then further scrutinized, and determinations are made concerning the events on a case by case basis right?

Ballots that are deposited illegally can still be legal ballots. Pennsylvania requires registered voters to submit an annual request to receive absentee ballots and supply proof of identification as part of that process. Election officials also verify drop box ballots before counting them.
Yes we understand ballots delivered illegally could still be considered legal, After scrutiny by partisan interests.

That is the problem. No?

That is exactly what they want. On Pennsylvania laws? Not sure it really matters they are being challenged left and right because they are f'd up. Also what's the difference, nobody is required to follow the laws, under any penalties, so they are really just a suggestion.
6/29/2022 11:34am
Mx746 wrote:
ToolMaker wrote:
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author? "The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is...
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author?
"The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”
So were they living in the same room? That's what the text says.
Show your evidence and not some convoluted interpretation. Because if Nancy has a room #. That's her frigging address. So now you have to show proof that the care facility doesn't differentiate room #s.
Show your evidence. Have you ever been to a care facility that doesn't have room #s that the tenant isn't paying for "that room" with their personal belongings in the closet?
Read the link, the requirement is that the voters(s) live in the same household as the agent.
So first, prove the agent lives there. I want to see their drivers license with address that shows the care facility listed. Show your evidence.

Mx746 wrote:
You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they...
You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they are then further scrutinized, and determinations are made concerning the events on a case by case basis right?

Ballots that are deposited illegally can still be legal ballots. Pennsylvania requires registered voters to submit an annual request to receive absentee ballots and supply proof of identification as part of that process. Election officials also verify drop box ballots before counting them.
OK, have to admit, I f*cked up the reading. The "agent" is not required to live in the same household.
But I still go back to, they have their own living space that is their household. Many years ago we rented a
room in our house to an individual with a less than stellar driving record. The insurance company wanted to charge everyone in the household a higher rate (they do that shit because people in the same household share vehicles).
As I turns out after some research and back and forth. It was determined they are not the same household because they have their own dedicated space that they are paying for. Same as in a care facility. You have your own dedicated room which is "your household" vs the community cafeteria. Now sometimes you have a "shared room for less cost. That roommate is now living in your household. When you're in a care facility, you have the right to keep the other customers out of your private room because it's your household.
I'd like to see your evidence that the ballots delivered were legal because if someone is doing 1 thing illegal, it's more likely than not that person is doing more than 1 thing illegal. So at the end of the day what you're saying is that you have people in place to accept illegal ballots. That doesn't make them legal, it just makes them accepted.
Your turn to pony up some proof that the ballots were from the same "household", that the residents don't have dedicated private space, that their families don't come and hang family pictures on the wall...
There's a lot more to it than saying I want these ballots counted so we'll overlook the illegal activity.
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6/29/2022 11:59am
jjavaman wrote:
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown...
The thing with you righties is you have zero morals, you’re ok with spray tan fat guy begging for 11000 votes. The shit that’s being thrown at the one term guy BY republicans in the Jan 6th hearings is kinda telling or are you hiding your head in the sand?
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your...
the funny part is that you probably honestly BELIEVE what you just typed. "No morals". LOL. From the party fighting for the "right" to butcher your own unborn child or to teach 4y olds about anal sex. Yeesh.
jjavaman wrote:
Got a link to the teaching 4 year olds how to have anal sex?
Just share one of the hundreds in your browser cache.
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6/29/2022 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/29/2022 12:35pm
ToolMaker wrote:
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author? "The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is...
It's right in the article, how dumb is the author?
"The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”
So were they living in the same room? That's what the text says.
Show your evidence and not some convoluted interpretation. Because if Nancy has a room #. That's her frigging address. So now you have to show proof that the care facility doesn't differentiate room #s.
Show your evidence. Have you ever been to a care facility that doesn't have room #s that the tenant isn't paying for "that room" with their personal belongings in the closet?
Read the link, the requirement is that the voters(s) live in the same household as the agent.
So first, prove the agent lives there. I want to see their drivers license with address that shows the care facility listed. Show your evidence.

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You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they...
You understand ballots (of any party) that are not delivered per a states voting requirements by law are not automatically invalid "throw away" ballots, that they are then further scrutinized, and determinations are made concerning the events on a case by case basis right?

Ballots that are deposited illegally can still be legal ballots. Pennsylvania requires registered voters to submit an annual request to receive absentee ballots and supply proof of identification as part of that process. Election officials also verify drop box ballots before counting them.
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OK, have to admit, I f*cked up the reading. The "agent" is not required to live in the same household. But I still go back to...
OK, have to admit, I f*cked up the reading. The "agent" is not required to live in the same household.
But I still go back to, they have their own living space that is their household. Many years ago we rented a
room in our house to an individual with a less than stellar driving record. The insurance company wanted to charge everyone in the household a higher rate (they do that shit because people in the same household share vehicles).
As I turns out after some research and back and forth. It was determined they are not the same household because they have their own dedicated space that they are paying for. Same as in a care facility. You have your own dedicated room which is "your household" vs the community cafeteria. Now sometimes you have a "shared room for less cost. That roommate is now living in your household. When you're in a care facility, you have the right to keep the other customers out of your private room because it's your household.
I'd like to see your evidence that the ballots delivered were legal because if someone is doing 1 thing illegal, it's more likely than not that person is doing more than 1 thing illegal. So at the end of the day what you're saying is that you have people in place to accept illegal ballots. That doesn't make them legal, it just makes them accepted.
Your turn to pony up some proof that the ballots were from the same "household", that the residents don't have dedicated private space, that their families don't come and hang family pictures on the wall...
There's a lot more to it than saying I want these ballots counted so we'll overlook the illegal activity.
TM
What election officials want to know about when ballots are delivered improperly/illegally etc, is did this action have any intentions to defraud the election and are the ballot/ballots themselves accurate representation of the voting intentions of a qualified voter.
In this case the proper forms for all the ballots were included and submitted and retained by elections officers for the ballots in question. They found no fraud intentions.
See below recap

Soltysiak, the woman filmed in the video delivered each mail-in ballot with a completed designated agent form. The county retained those forms.

“This individual did nothing wrong. In fact, the video shows this voter taking the proper steps to enfranchise residents of a local rehabilitation and long-term care facility so that their votes were legally cast,” the letter stated. “Mail-in ballots may be returned to the Board of Elections by a Designated Agent acting on behalf of a voter who, due to a disability, is not able to do so on their own.”

According to Pennsylvania state law, a designated agent can only deliver a ballot for one voter with a disability unless each disabled voter lives in the same household. The Department of State noted in a 2020 fact sheet that a long-term care facility is not considered a single household for the purpose of designating an agent, but a couple sharing a room or apartment within a facility “may be considered members of the same household.”

When asked whether the woman’s actions in the video defied state law, Cofrancisco said that the legal case that made it possible for voters with disabilities to designate agents in Pennsylvania left the definition of a household up to election administrators to interpret.

“The standard followed by Montgomery County is that individuals who reside in a building and share a common address may be considered to be in the same household,” Cofrancisco said. “Facilities that designate independent living units with separate addresses, such as apartments, or individual resident P.O. boxes would not be in the same household. We have implemented a reasonable standard that allows us to determine what qualifies as a household while allowing for voters with disabilities to have their ballots delivered to the Board of Elections without burdening those voters any more than is necessary.”

Pennsylvania’s Department of State did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the incident.

Ballots that are deposited illegally can still be legal ballots. Pennsylvania requires registered voters to submit an annual request to receive absentee ballots and supply proof of identification as part of that process. Election officials also verify drop box ballots before counting them.
See link below. https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-earl…
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philG wrote:
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Bravo Sir.
Least I can do for all the low blows and insults he hurls at myself and others here. Don’t get all bent Jjavaman, it was pretty funny, even you have to admit it.
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