Poll - Changing Up Votes and Down Votes

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Thoughts? This is Moto-Related as well but posting here for those that don't visit that neck of the woods often.

Right now, down voters aren't shown and only up voters are. Should it change for both to be public?

Or, should the whole thing be scrapped?

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GET RID OF THEM!
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1911 wrote:
GET RID OF THEM!
This.
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6/18/2022 1:22pm
1911 wrote:
GET RID OF THEM!
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6/18/2022 2:21pm
I actually think either is a better option than we have now
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6/18/2022 4:33pm Edited Date/Time 6/18/2022 4:36pm
Show the down votes. It is ok to disagree with others.
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The votes are fine but it I think the downvoters should also be revealed. It would cut down on the kneejerk drive by's.
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6/18/2022 8:03pm Edited Date/Time 6/18/2022 8:12pm
Get rid of the anonymity, but I'd be surprised if it stopped the grown ass men here who can't help but express the severe pain they apparently experience when someone downvotes their post.

Several participation trophy displayers are never going to be satisfied until their posts can only be upvoted.
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Get rid of the anonymity, but I'd be surprised if it stopped the grown ass men here who can't help but express the severe pain they...
Get rid of the anonymity, but I'd be surprised if it stopped the grown ass men here who can't help but express the severe pain they apparently experience when someone downvotes their post.

Several participation trophy displayers are never going to be satisfied until their posts can only be upvoted.
It was me. 👎😱
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6/19/2022 5:59am
Beyond stupid. Get rid of them
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6/19/2022 6:44am
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think posts should be displayed in order of upvotes. This way quality posts with several upvotes are at the top of the thread and trolls and bullshit are on page 10.

As for the anonymity, I don’t understand people taking downvotes so seriously. On the flip side, if you downvote someone you should own it. I say show ‘em.
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think...
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think posts should be displayed in order of upvotes. This way quality posts with several upvotes are at the top of the thread and trolls and bullshit are on page 10.

As for the anonymity, I don’t understand people taking downvotes so seriously. On the flip side, if you downvote someone you should own it. I say show ‘em.
I don’t want it in order by upvotes.

This is a conversation not a contest.
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think...
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think posts should be displayed in order of upvotes. This way quality posts with several upvotes are at the top of the thread and trolls and bullshit are on page 10.

As for the anonymity, I don’t understand people taking downvotes so seriously. On the flip side, if you downvote someone you should own it. I say show ‘em.
I don't think the reddit thing would work well in here, especially for qualifying/race threads. Some people use them to follow the action before they have a chance to watch the races.

If the more popular posts get pushed to the top it's going to make for a very disjointed conversation.
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6/19/2022 7:40am
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think...
Saw the thread in moto, but posting here hopefully for visibility. I don’t think upvotes and downvotes should be merged like Reddit, but I do think posts should be displayed in order of upvotes. This way quality posts with several upvotes are at the top of the thread and trolls and bullshit are on page 10.

As for the anonymity, I don’t understand people taking downvotes so seriously. On the flip side, if you downvote someone you should own it. I say show ‘em.
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I don't think the reddit thing would work well in here, especially for qualifying/race threads. Some people use them to follow the action before they have...
I don't think the reddit thing would work well in here, especially for qualifying/race threads. Some people use them to follow the action before they have a chance to watch the races.

If the more popular posts get pushed to the top it's going to make for a very disjointed conversation.
Good point, didn’t think about the race threads and some of the other threads, it would throw those off.

@yz133rider I agree it’s a conversation, but it wasn’t about making it contest. It was more about removing the need to sift through 5 pages of bullshit to find quality posts/info. It’s a bit annoying for a moto-related thread to have 3 or 4 people bickering with each other about Covid or some other unrelated crap. The mods can only do so much, and I figured having downvoted posts moved to the end of the thread would help clean it up a bit. I was just tossing out ideas, but you and Mav make good points and I agree it should stay as is.
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I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you have to give a brief explanation as to why you downvoted. You can even set it for people who upvote as well. Kinda like when you review a product on any website. You have the ability to explain why you agree or disagree with someone's post and have accountability. Whenever I get downvotes on something I post I wonder why that person didn't agree and would like to hear their point of view but I don't take it personal. Apparently many do though I guess.

Or get rid of the whole thing, no up or down votes. Force people to quote someones post if they really want to have a discussion. I can't remember ever downvoting someone, if I see something I disagree with I'll quote it and give my response. If someone is just being an asshole or stupid, I move on. I'll upvote something if it's really cool or I strongly agree with it.
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Is this because of that sloan guy whining about all of the downvotes he gets every time he shoots off his mouth ??
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ProKawi24 wrote:
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you...
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you have to give a brief explanation as to why you downvoted. You can even set it for people who upvote as well. Kinda like when you review a product on any website. You have the ability to explain why you agree or disagree with someone's post and have accountability. Whenever I get downvotes on something I post I wonder why that person didn't agree and would like to hear their point of view but I don't take it personal. Apparently many do though I guess.

Or get rid of the whole thing, no up or down votes. Force people to quote someones post if they really want to have a discussion. I can't remember ever downvoting someone, if I see something I disagree with I'll quote it and give my response. If someone is just being an asshole or stupid, I move on. I'll upvote something if it's really cool or I strongly agree with it.
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
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borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
I've noticed a long time ago that each time someone starts a thread about downvotes, every post gets a downvote.

It has nothing to do with what the person posted either. It's more just to piss off the person that started the thread about the downvotes. Sort of like here's a downvote for complaining about downvotes.

I guarantee you most post don't even get read. Straight to thumbs down.

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It's not as bad in non-moto, but then again it seems like most of the non-moto crowd is more mature.
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ProKawi24 wrote:
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you...
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you have to give a brief explanation as to why you downvoted. You can even set it for people who upvote as well. Kinda like when you review a product on any website. You have the ability to explain why you agree or disagree with someone's post and have accountability. Whenever I get downvotes on something I post I wonder why that person didn't agree and would like to hear their point of view but I don't take it personal. Apparently many do though I guess.

Or get rid of the whole thing, no up or down votes. Force people to quote someones post if they really want to have a discussion. I can't remember ever downvoting someone, if I see something I disagree with I'll quote it and give my response. If someone is just being an asshole or stupid, I move on. I'll upvote something if it's really cool or I strongly agree with it.
borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of their past posting history and, interactions I’ve had with them. I’m sure others have the same sentiment. As I mentioned in my previous post, it’s ok to disagree. I have absolutely nothing against ProKawi24. I simply didn’t agree with the box popping up is all.
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I'd like to downvote me having to get my tired ass up and having to work today.
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ProKawi24 wrote:
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you...
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you have to give a brief explanation as to why you downvoted. You can even set it for people who upvote as well. Kinda like when you review a product on any website. You have the ability to explain why you agree or disagree with someone's post and have accountability. Whenever I get downvotes on something I post I wonder why that person didn't agree and would like to hear their point of view but I don't take it personal. Apparently many do though I guess.

Or get rid of the whole thing, no up or down votes. Force people to quote someones post if they really want to have a discussion. I can't remember ever downvoting someone, if I see something I disagree with I'll quote it and give my response. If someone is just being an asshole or stupid, I move on. I'll upvote something if it's really cool or I strongly agree with it.
They actually already have that box. It is labelled "Post a Reply to: 'Thread Name' "

If I wanted to explain my displeasure in detail, I'd write a reply like this one. The purpose of the upvote downvote is to be able to simply show pleasure or displeasure of a post without polluting a thread with:

"^tHiS^"


posts and the like.
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ProKawi24 wrote:
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you...
I posted this in the moto thread but I'll say it again....my opinion is if you click downvote then have a box pop up where you have to give a brief explanation as to why you downvoted. You can even set it for people who upvote as well. Kinda like when you review a product on any website. You have the ability to explain why you agree or disagree with someone's post and have accountability. Whenever I get downvotes on something I post I wonder why that person didn't agree and would like to hear their point of view but I don't take it personal. Apparently many do though I guess.

Or get rid of the whole thing, no up or down votes. Force people to quote someones post if they really want to have a discussion. I can't remember ever downvoting someone, if I see something I disagree with I'll quote it and give my response. If someone is just being an asshole or stupid, I move on. I'll upvote something if it's really cool or I strongly agree with it.
borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
Chance1216 wrote:
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of...
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of their past posting history and, interactions I’ve had with them. I’m sure others have the same sentiment. As I mentioned in my previous post, it’s ok to disagree. I have absolutely nothing against ProKawi24. I simply didn’t agree with the box popping up is all.
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think?

I would have to seriously think about it but I don't think I have ever downvoted. I have upvoted some, especially if I am in general agreement and don't feel it necessary hammer out a long post saying the same things. I like the upvote feature for that. Not sure what a downvote is even useful for, anonymous or not. If you disagree with the gist of a post, wouldn't the burden be on you to state your disagreement?



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borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
Chance1216 wrote:
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of...
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of their past posting history and, interactions I’ve had with them. I’m sure others have the same sentiment. As I mentioned in my previous post, it’s ok to disagree. I have absolutely nothing against ProKawi24. I simply didn’t agree with the box popping up is all.
borg wrote:
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think? I would have to seriously...
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think?

I would have to seriously think about it but I don't think I have ever downvoted. I have upvoted some, especially if I am in general agreement and don't feel it necessary hammer out a long post saying the same things. I like the upvote feature for that. Not sure what a downvote is even useful for, anonymous or not. If you disagree with the gist of a post, wouldn't the burden be on you to state your disagreement?



I get your point. Especially when it comes to responding to some of the better guys around here.

For the others, it’ll go a little like, I gave your post a 👎 because I think you’re a FN idiot and, I got dumber just reading it.

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Chance1216 wrote:
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of...
Borg, one of them was myself. I don’t agree with a box popping up to explain oneself. There’s a couple guys I automatically downvote because of their past posting history and, interactions I’ve had with them. I’m sure others have the same sentiment. As I mentioned in my previous post, it’s ok to disagree. I have absolutely nothing against ProKawi24. I simply didn’t agree with the box popping up is all.
borg wrote:
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think? I would have to seriously...
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think?

I would have to seriously think about it but I don't think I have ever downvoted. I have upvoted some, especially if I am in general agreement and don't feel it necessary hammer out a long post saying the same things. I like the upvote feature for that. Not sure what a downvote is even useful for, anonymous or not. If you disagree with the gist of a post, wouldn't the burden be on you to state your disagreement?



Chance1216 wrote:
I get your point. Especially when it comes to responding to some of the better guys around here. For the others, it’ll go a little like...
I get your point. Especially when it comes to responding to some of the better guys around here.

For the others, it’ll go a little like, I gave your post a 👎 because I think you’re a FN idiot and, I got dumber just reading it.

I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in total agreement.

So, I guess I don't get the whole "down-vote just because" thing. I do find it kinda funny, tho. I've got a few "fans" that ALWAYS down-vote me and it's kinda entertaining.

I the ehnd, I don't care. But, I realy do get a kick outta how we can know....alllllll damn day...who the thumbs up people are...kinda like a "participants ribbon". But, let's not let anyone know who the folsk are that disagree or don't like what you're posting..."Because, if we do, they may stop doing it."

Really? That's how it works? Not for me. If I don't like what someone is saying, you'll certainly be able to figure out that I "don't agree".
Sideways

Any hoo....I'm thinking this won't go anywhere...again.
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borg wrote:
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think? I would have to seriously...
That's more of a minor quibble. Better to just explain your disagreement rather than downvote the entire post, don't you think?

I would have to seriously think about it but I don't think I have ever downvoted. I have upvoted some, especially if I am in general agreement and don't feel it necessary hammer out a long post saying the same things. I like the upvote feature for that. Not sure what a downvote is even useful for, anonymous or not. If you disagree with the gist of a post, wouldn't the burden be on you to state your disagreement?



Chance1216 wrote:
I get your point. Especially when it comes to responding to some of the better guys around here. For the others, it’ll go a little like...
I get your point. Especially when it comes to responding to some of the better guys around here.

For the others, it’ll go a little like, I gave your post a 👎 because I think you’re a FN idiot and, I got dumber just reading it.

TeamGreen wrote:
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in...
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in total agreement.

So, I guess I don't get the whole "down-vote just because" thing. I do find it kinda funny, tho. I've got a few "fans" that ALWAYS down-vote me and it's kinda entertaining.

I the ehnd, I don't care. But, I realy do get a kick outta how we can know....alllllll damn day...who the thumbs up people are...kinda like a "participants ribbon". But, let's not let anyone know who the folsk are that disagree or don't like what you're posting..."Because, if we do, they may stop doing it."

Really? That's how it works? Not for me. If I don't like what someone is saying, you'll certainly be able to figure out that I "don't agree".
Sideways

Any hoo....I'm thinking this won't go anywhere...again.
I gave you a thumbs down because I agree with everything you said. 😉
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TeamGreen wrote:
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in...
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in total agreement.

So, I guess I don't get the whole "down-vote just because" thing. I do find it kinda funny, tho. I've got a few "fans" that ALWAYS down-vote me and it's kinda entertaining.

I the ehnd, I don't care. But, I realy do get a kick outta how we can know....alllllll damn day...who the thumbs up people are...kinda like a "participants ribbon". But, let's not let anyone know who the folsk are that disagree or don't like what you're posting..."Because, if we do, they may stop doing it."

Really? That's how it works? Not for me. If I don't like what someone is saying, you'll certainly be able to figure out that I "don't agree".
Sideways

Any hoo....I'm thinking this won't go anywhere...again.
You might have fans, but nobody loves you as much as you do—holy shit your ego bro. The downvotes are anonymous, don’t flatter yourself in thinking people follow you around—you just post non fucking stop so you’re unavoidable.
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borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
It's up to 7 now Smile

I just look at is as 7 people disagree with what I had to say as Chance1216 explained in his response and I'm totally fine with that. I wish we did live in a world where we could all have rational discussions and respectfully disagree.

No matter what ends up happening with this thing it's going to piss off a lot of people. Wither it stays, goes, changes whatever. Just make sure to get the popcorn ready lol.
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borg wrote:
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes? Now I say shut it down...
I don't get it. You got 3 downvotes for a very reasonable post. WTF is it with these DV assholes?
Now I say shut it down. Effing cowards don't deserve a voice.
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's up to 7 now :) I just look at is as 7 people disagree with what I had to say as Chance1216 explained in his...
It's up to 7 now Smile

I just look at is as 7 people disagree with what I had to say as Chance1216 explained in his response and I'm totally fine with that. I wish we did live in a world where we could all have rational discussions and respectfully disagree.

No matter what ends up happening with this thing it's going to piss off a lot of people. Wither it stays, goes, changes whatever. Just make sure to get the popcorn ready lol.

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TeamGreen wrote:
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in...
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in total agreement.

So, I guess I don't get the whole "down-vote just because" thing. I do find it kinda funny, tho. I've got a few "fans" that ALWAYS down-vote me and it's kinda entertaining.

I the ehnd, I don't care. But, I realy do get a kick outta how we can know....alllllll damn day...who the thumbs up people are...kinda like a "participants ribbon". But, let's not let anyone know who the folsk are that disagree or don't like what you're posting..."Because, if we do, they may stop doing it."

Really? That's how it works? Not for me. If I don't like what someone is saying, you'll certainly be able to figure out that I "don't agree".
Sideways

Any hoo....I'm thinking this won't go anywhere...again.
You might have fans, but nobody loves you as much as you do—holy shit your ego bro. The downvotes are anonymous, don’t flatter yourself in thinking...
You might have fans, but nobody loves you as much as you do—holy shit your ego bro. The downvotes are anonymous, don’t flatter yourself in thinking people follow you around—you just post non fucking stop so you’re unavoidable.
There it is, folks!

Exhibit A.

Laughing

You mad, Bro?

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TeamGreen wrote:
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in...
I've got guys in here that I'm almost ALWAYS not agreeing with; but, they'll throw down a thread or opinion now and then & I'm in total agreement.

So, I guess I don't get the whole "down-vote just because" thing. I do find it kinda funny, tho. I've got a few "fans" that ALWAYS down-vote me and it's kinda entertaining.

I the ehnd, I don't care. But, I realy do get a kick outta how we can know....alllllll damn day...who the thumbs up people are...kinda like a "participants ribbon". But, let's not let anyone know who the folsk are that disagree or don't like what you're posting..."Because, if we do, they may stop doing it."

Really? That's how it works? Not for me. If I don't like what someone is saying, you'll certainly be able to figure out that I "don't agree".
Sideways

Any hoo....I'm thinking this won't go anywhere...again.
You might have fans, but nobody loves you as much as you do—holy shit your ego bro. The downvotes are anonymous, don’t flatter yourself in thinking...
You might have fans, but nobody loves you as much as you do—holy shit your ego bro. The downvotes are anonymous, don’t flatter yourself in thinking people follow you around—you just post non fucking stop so you’re unavoidable.
WTF dude? Why do you have to bring that shit into a reasonably mellow thread?
Seriously go fuck your hat!
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Well there's one that's not anonymous.
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