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johndog 4/27/2022 10:46am
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Mr. Afterbar wrote:
A new bike in '24 would be a 5 year life of this current chassis. The bike is excellent. Doesn't need upgrading to be competitive as...
A new bike in '24 would be a 5 year life of this current chassis. The bike is excellent. Doesn't need upgrading to be competitive as it already is although I'm sure a new bike would improve sales for '23.
johndog wrote:
2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 that's the 6th year not sure what math your doing but its not correct either way 2023 would be the...
2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 that's the 6th year not sure what math your doing but its not correct either way 2023 would be the 5th year on this model so it will be all new because every 4 years is the standard for Japanese model's for major upgrades but covid changed that to 5 as production slowed
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
Not sure why you'd count '24 if that's a new bike. I think you may need to recheck your own math.
its okay common core math has done permanent damage to your brain because in the real world we use regular math but Bill Gates is one evil man so i don't blame you for falling victim to his Luciferian ways
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johndog 4/27/2022 10:49am
4/27/2022 10:49am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2022 11:00am
Kyle978 wrote:
johndog - your math sucks and you probably haven't ridden the latest KTM, Yamaha and Honda's if you think Kawi needs to update this bike to...
johndog - your math sucks and you probably haven't ridden the latest KTM, Yamaha and Honda's if you think Kawi needs to update this bike to "stay competitive".

IMO the KTM and Honda took steps backwards with their new chassis, and the Yamaha only suits some people really well.
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
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mx510 4/27/2022 10:55am
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johndog wrote:
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for...
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
Clamped out? Lol, that is one hell of a run on sentence.
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Nate_Z 4/27/2022 10:59am
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This conversation deteriorated rapidly...to summarize...Looks like the new 450 will be a 24 and not a 23. COVID pushed out development timelines. Vital rocks at math. Miss anything?
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johndog 4/27/2022 11:02am
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This conversation deteriorated rapidly...to summarize...Looks like the new 450 will be a 24 and not a 23. COVID pushed out development timelines. Vital rocks at math...
This conversation deteriorated rapidly...to summarize...Looks like the new 450 will be a 24 and not a 23. COVID pushed out development timelines. Vital rocks at math. Miss anything?
in summary you and the other common core math people think the 2023 will be the same bike which it wont as the spy photos prove and you all cannot afford it anyways so all is good in the universe
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johndog 4/27/2022 11:03am
4/27/2022 11:03am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2022 11:05am
johndog wrote:
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for...
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
mx510 wrote:
Clamped out? Lol, that is one hell of a run on sentence.
a grammar Nazi who also cannot afford the new 2023 KX450 which will be a all new bike
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mx510 4/27/2022 11:09am
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a grammar Nazi who also cannot afford the new 2023 KX450 which will be a all new bike
Lol, nice attempt at trolling.
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soggy 4/27/2022 11:34am
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Nate_Z wrote:
This conversation deteriorated rapidly...to summarize...Looks like the new 450 will be a 24 and not a 23. COVID pushed out development timelines. Vital rocks at math...
This conversation deteriorated rapidly...to summarize...Looks like the new 450 will be a 24 and not a 23. COVID pushed out development timelines. Vital rocks at math. Miss anything?
johndog wrote:
in summary you and the other common core math people think the 2023 will be the same bike which it wont as the spy photos prove...
in summary you and the other common core math people think the 2023 will be the same bike which it wont as the spy photos prove and you all cannot afford it anyways so all is good in the universe
It’s possible it will have some revisions. IE new frame. But same/ similar motor.
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Kyle978 4/27/2022 11:42am
4/27/2022 11:42am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2022 11:44am
johndog wrote:
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for...
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage



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Nate_Z 4/27/2022 11:46am
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Dude joins today to troll the 23 KX450 forum? Lame
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280driver 4/27/2022 12:17pm
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I believe the current bike was due to be launched in ‘20 but launch was pushed up to ‘19. If they went back to the 4 year cycle for new bikes, ‘24 would be right.
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280driver 4/27/2022 12:18pm
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……and clearly the current bike is still very competitive so no need to rush the new one.
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Johndog, your account is locked. If you’d like to discuss, you can email me at mlindsay@vitalmx.com
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Sandusky26 4/27/2022 12:43pm
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Johndog, your account is locked. If you’d like to discuss, you can email me at mlindsay@vitalmx.com
What about the 23 Kawi? I’m getting a new bike soon and would buy a 22 KX if the 23 is the same.
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Mr. Afterbar 4/27/2022 1:33pm
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johndog wrote:
2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 that's the 6th year not sure what math your doing but its not correct either way 2023 would be the...
2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 that's the 6th year not sure what math your doing but its not correct either way 2023 would be the 5th year on this model so it will be all new because every 4 years is the standard for Japanese model's for major upgrades but covid changed that to 5 as production slowed
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
Not sure why you'd count '24 if that's a new bike. I think you may need to recheck your own math.
johndog wrote:
its okay common core math has done permanent damage to your brain because in the real world we use regular math but Bill Gates is one...
its okay common core math has done permanent damage to your brain because in the real world we use regular math but Bill Gates is one evil man so i don't blame you for falling victim to his Luciferian ways
I tested out of having to take math courses in college so I'd say my math skills are above average. We are however talking about the simplest form of math in adding single digit numbers which you are clearly incapable of. GTFO noob!
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Sandusky26 4/28/2022 12:44am
4/28/2022 12:44am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2022 12:46am
johndog wrote:
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for...
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
Kyle978 wrote:
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/27/546309/s1200_F0225AA6_E52A_48DA_996A_69B5E4E6F9E8.jpg[/img]
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage



Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
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Kyle978 4/28/2022 4:58am
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Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Yeah, house sucks. I'll burn it down.
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motoxrocks 4/28/2022 5:21am
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Kyle978 wrote:
Yeah, house sucks. I'll burn it down.
Its your home and Smile you have an awesome garage!Smile
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johndog wrote:
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for...
kyle it appears you ride a clapped out POS 2 stroke and cannot afford a real modern 450 but its okay mommy will buy it for you and maybe she will help you learn regular math too and Mr. Afterbar can be your classmate
Kyle978 wrote:
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/27/546309/s1200_F0225AA6_E52A_48DA_996A_69B5E4E6F9E8.jpg[/img]
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage



Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Damn dusky bro, chill. Dude can’t help if that’s the style where he lives, I doubt he built the fucking thing with his own bare hands.
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Sandusky26 4/28/2022 6:48am
4/28/2022 6:48am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2022 6:49am
Kyle978 wrote:
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/27/546309/s1200_F0225AA6_E52A_48DA_996A_69B5E4E6F9E8.jpg[/img]
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage



Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
reded301 wrote:
Damn dusky bro, chill. Dude can’t help if that’s the style where he lives, I doubt he built the fucking thing with his own bare hands.
Only reason I say anything is this guy said something about a home I did build with my bare hands. No worries, just needed to express myself.
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GrapeApe 4/28/2022 6:56am
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Kyle978 wrote:
Yeah, house sucks. I'll burn it down.
Does mud burn?

I kid, I kid. I've spent a fair amount of time in New Mexico and I really appreciate that it is so unique.

Who would have thought a 2023 KX450 thread would have caused a classic Vital meltdown? I really feel john had more to offer if he just could have worked his way out of this emotionally charged and controversial thread.
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motoxrocks 4/28/2022 7:26am
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Kyle978 wrote:
Yeah, house sucks. I'll burn it down.
Didnt realize you are in Las Cruces! I was stationed at Holloman AFB back in the mid/late 70s. Had 2 great tracks on Base and raced at a place called La Luz Speedway. A life time ago! Would like to see what Alamogordo looks like today?
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Kyle978 4/28/2022 7:37am
4/28/2022 7:37am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2022 8:40am
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Only reason I say anything is this guy said something about a home I did build with my bare hands. No worries, just needed to express...
Only reason I say anything is this guy said something about a home I did build with my bare hands. No worries, just needed to express myself.
Damn Sandy, of all the people on Vital I wouldn't expect you to act like such a cuck. Thought Suzuki riders had more armour for attacks. But let’s squash this beef, I like your style. What's your IG? I'll follow you as a truce offering,

With that said, my company pays for this house and I don't really give a fuckkkk what it looks like or if it's constructed of dildos and toilet paper, the price is right.

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Kyle978 4/28/2022 7:53am
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but...
Those houses look like some make shift tobacco shops covered in cardboard, flat roofs with satellite dishes on the front of the house. Sorry man but I was expecting more from this hippy house critic.
Kyle978 wrote:
Yeah, house sucks. I'll burn it down.
motoxrocks wrote:
Didnt realize you are in Las Cruces! I was stationed at Holloman AFB back in the mid/late 70s. Had 2 great tracks on Base and raced...
Didnt realize you are in Las Cruces! I was stationed at Holloman AFB back in the mid/late 70s. Had 2 great tracks on Base and raced at a place called La Luz Speedway. A life time ago! Would like to see what Alamogordo looks like today?
Man, I love it here.

There’s not shit for tracks here anymore, but desert corner tracks and trails in every direction.


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Kyle978 wrote:
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/04/27/546309/s1200_F0225AA6_E52A_48DA_996A_69B5E4E6F9E8.jpg[/img]
I know you’re trolling and it’s cute, but suck on it. My garage > your garage



Damn. This picture makes me want to live in the desert, not some shithole where it's been raining since November like I do now.
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Kyle978 4/28/2022 8:07am
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nskerb wrote:
Damn. This picture makes me want to live in the desert, not some shithole where it's been raining since November like I do now.
My Mom lives in Vancouver, WA - I love summers there, but the other 9 months can suck it. Go south, bro.
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nskerb 4/28/2022 8:15am
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My Mom lives in Vancouver, WA - I love summers there, but the other 9 months can suck it. Go south, bro.
Yeah I'm about 30 minutes north. June can be hit or miss sometimes but July-September is usually awesome. This spring has been a complete bitch. Non stop rain.
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Kyle978 4/28/2022 8:19am
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Yeah I'm about 30 minutes north. June can be hit or miss sometimes but July-September is usually awesome. This spring has been a complete bitch. Non...
Yeah I'm about 30 minutes north. June can be hit or miss sometimes but July-September is usually awesome. This spring has been a complete bitch. Non stop rain.
I know Kelso well, I really like how the town is situated along the river. Very cool place when the sun is out, I get why people choose to call it home.

After living in California, Arizona, Washington, Texas, Montana, NYC (midtown) & having this house in New Mexico - I've come to the conclusion everywhere has its pro's and con's, and there's no perfect place to live.

My goal is to have a house on a lake in Montana for summers and ski trips, and keep a place on the beach somewhere for winters. We're trying to convince my fiance's company to allow her to be fully remote so we can ditch our Laguna condo and find a house on the water in Florida. Bouncing between Montana and Florida would be ideal.
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Sandusky26 4/28/2022 8:39am
4/28/2022 8:39am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2022 8:42am
Kyle978 wrote:
Damn Sandy, of all the people on Vital I wouldn't expect you to act like such a cuck. Thought Suzuki riders had more armour for attacks...
Damn Sandy, of all the people on Vital I wouldn't expect you to act like such a cuck. Thought Suzuki riders had more armour for attacks. But let’s squash this beef, I like your style. What's your IG? I'll follow you as a truce offering,

With that said, my company pays for this house and I don't really give a fuckkkk what it looks like or if it's constructed of dildos and toilet paper, the price is right.

It's all good I just needed to set the universe straight. My hippie ass wants to know what's up with the 23 Kawi. I'm ready for a new bike.

I don't have IG, I want to be the only guy at the club pulling chicks without social media.
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Kyle978 4/28/2022 8:45am
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It's all good I just needed to set the universe straight. My hippie ass wants to know what's up with the 23 Kawi. I'm ready for...
It's all good I just needed to set the universe straight. My hippie ass wants to know what's up with the 23 Kawi. I'm ready for a new bike.

I don't have IG, I want to be the only guy at the club pulling chicks without social media.
Have that Coinbase app ready to show - bitches love crypto.
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