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Let’s start a thread here and leave the Ukraine thread. Otherwise, I’m just stepping on my dick and becoming what I despised about EIDave/flarider.
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Too late.Whistling
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Too late.Whistling
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Muttly wrote:
Let’s start a thread here and leave the Ukraine thread. Otherwise, I’m just stepping on my dick and becoming what I despised about EIDave/flarider.
Sure thing. Though Im no fan of echo chambers so we’ll have to find something to argue about. In a civil manner of course LOL.

Im unaware what the issue is with Dave. Seems to me he’s just a really good arguer that is wrong about a lot of stuff. There are worse things one can be.
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My post from the other thread, in case it gets deleted.

The same people that locked down the country and created a mess over the flu, now want me to care a bunch about Putin/Ukraine.

Some of these same people have very unethical business relationships in both Ukraine and China.

These same people think any dissent or debate is cause for censorship or worse.

These same people openly despise our Constitutional god given birth rights.

These same people are convinced the sea levels are rising and soon coastlines will be under water while their favorite politicians spend 10’s of millions on beachfront properties that are supposed to be seabed soon.

They want freedom for Ukraine but love socialism/communism here. They’re glad Ukranians are armed and fighting back but want my guns. (Make that make sense, please).

These same people celebrated the BLM scam. And put their preferred pronouns in their bios.

These same people cant answer the basic question of “what is a woman?” They attack basic cognitive reason at every chance.

And yet Im supposed to believe that despite all that, they got a firm handle on the complexities of foreign politics?

Just some basic thin slicing. This dont pass the smell test. Going to war with a nuclear superpower is not something you do on a whim. And certainly not something I’ll support coming from the group that considers truth blasphemy.

The first casualty of war is always the truth.

When Putin has as many kills as their hero Fauci, I’ll take notice. Better yet, wake me when he’s done just 1% of their communist heros Mao or Stalin. Heck, wake me when Putin has killed as many innocent children as your average abortion clinic.

Until then, find something a lil more believable to virtue signal about.
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Sure thing. Though Im no fan of echo chambers so we’ll have to find something to argue about. In a civil manner of course LOL. Im...
Sure thing. Though Im no fan of echo chambers so we’ll have to find something to argue about. In a civil manner of course LOL.

Im unaware what the issue is with Dave. Seems to me he’s just a really good arguer that is wrong about a lot of stuff. There are worse things one can be.
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration.

I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that are closely involved in theater, Kongols and Sandvik, post updates in that thread. Without partisan bickering, or repetitive copy and pasting.

Don’t worry, I’m sure someone will be along soon to take up their sword. Or not.
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Muttly wrote:
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration. I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that...
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration.

I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that are closely involved in theater, Kongols and Sandvik, post updates in that thread. Without partisan bickering, or repetitive copy and pasting.

Don’t worry, I’m sure someone will be along soon to take up their sword. Or not.
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol

Interesting system of forum board federalism. Tho I’ll admit it’s an improvement over Twitter or Facebook.

As for the credibility of the updates, I know plenty from Portland other blue third world cities that would tell you BLM was peaceful. Im not sure we’re gonna get the truth from those on the ground if they already have a leftist agenda to begin with.
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Muttly wrote:
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration. I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that...
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration.

I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that are closely involved in theater, Kongols and Sandvik, post updates in that thread. Without partisan bickering, or repetitive copy and pasting.

Don’t worry, I’m sure someone will be along soon to take up their sword. Or not.
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol Interesting system of forum board...
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol

Interesting system of forum board federalism. Tho I’ll admit it’s an improvement over Twitter or Facebook.

As for the credibility of the updates, I know plenty from Portland other blue third world cities that would tell you BLM was peaceful. Im not sure we’re gonna get the truth from those on the ground if they already have a leftist agenda to begin with.
Says the guy with a domestic terrorist as his avatar.
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Muttly wrote:
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration. I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that...
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration.

I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that are closely involved in theater, Kongols and Sandvik, post updates in that thread. Without partisan bickering, or repetitive copy and pasting.

Don’t worry, I’m sure someone will be along soon to take up their sword. Or not.
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol Interesting system of forum board...
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol

Interesting system of forum board federalism. Tho I’ll admit it’s an improvement over Twitter or Facebook.

As for the credibility of the updates, I know plenty from Portland other blue third world cities that would tell you BLM was peaceful. Im not sure we’re gonna get the truth from those on the ground if they already have a leftist agenda to begin with.
Chance1216 wrote:
Says the guy with a domestic terrorist as his avatar.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Tongue Wink
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4/10/2022 1:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2022 1:51pm
Chance1216 wrote:
Says the guy with a domestic terrorist as his avatar.
The communist manifesto has killed way more people than Ted’s manifesto by a magnitude of 150million+.

The label “domestic terrorist” lost its meaning anyways the moment white parents at schoolboard meetings were labeled terrorists by the liberals because the concerned parent didnt like marxism being taught in schools.
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Damn guys,
A couple of dudes after my own heart.
I could go on for pages with my thoughts about how screwed up our nation, society, and most people have become.
Narrow minded.
Polarized.
Fully willing to dive head first into an ideology that's meant to control them.
And they're too blind to see it
The gutless backstabbers.
Or those so devolutionary savage, with no thoughts about respect for others.
Criminal behavior with no second thought, or resmorse.
To the point where our homes, vehicles, and even my jobsite workshop, is a fully loaded arsenal.

And I haven't even scratched the surface about politicians.
On both sides of the aisle.


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Muttly wrote:
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration. I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that...
Not a fan of the echo chambers either, as was this entire forum under the previous administration.

I’m of the opinion of letting the guys that are closely involved in theater, Kongols and Sandvik, post updates in that thread. Without partisan bickering, or repetitive copy and pasting.

Don’t worry, I’m sure someone will be along soon to take up their sword. Or not.
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol Interesting system of forum board...
So now we have threads where debate is allowed. And the lefty’s get their own threads where dissent is forbidden. Lolol

Interesting system of forum board federalism. Tho I’ll admit it’s an improvement over Twitter or Facebook.

As for the credibility of the updates, I know plenty from Portland other blue third world cities that would tell you BLM was peaceful. Im not sure we’re gonna get the truth from those on the ground if they already have a leftist agenda to begin with.
Chance1216 wrote:
Says the guy with a domestic terrorist as his avatar.
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st century.

FBI, ATF, DEA, DHS, now those are Domestic Terrorists.
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Muttly wrote:
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st...
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st century.

FBI, ATF, DEA, DHS, now those are Domestic Terrorists.
I would really love to call bullshit on that but the awful truth is that I cant.
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Muttly wrote:
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st...
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st century.

FBI, ATF, DEA, DHS, now those are Domestic Terrorists.
All of those government agencies have seriously overstepped their original bounds of protecting law abiding citizens.
They're now being used to keep the citizens compliant, while letting criminals roam freely.

And now we've been seeing that they're actually being used to entrap those who don't comply with those who see themselves as our rulers.
Not our representatives.
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Muttly wrote:
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st...
See, I knew you had something to say. “Terrorist” and especially, “Domestic Terrorist”, have to be a couple of the most overused terms of the 21st century.

FBI, ATF, DEA, DHS, now those are Domestic Terrorists.
All of those government agencies have seriously overstepped their original bounds of protecting law abiding citizens. They're now being used to keep the citizens compliant, while...
All of those government agencies have seriously overstepped their original bounds of protecting law abiding citizens.
They're now being used to keep the citizens compliant, while letting criminals roam freely.

And now we've been seeing that they're actually being used to entrap those who don't comply with those who see themselves as our rulers.
Not our representatives.
And I feel sorry for those that still think that any politician has “their” best interest in mind. Republican vs. Democrat, Racism, it’s all designed to divide us and keep us distracted.

I’ve been calling a bunch of this crap for a couple of years now. My timeline is off, it’s all happening slower than I predicted, but it’s still happening.

I’ll say the same thing again, that I said in “Moto”, none of this would be a surprise if you read the Bible. Now somebody will come along and call me a “Crazy Religous Zealot”.
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leaders either divide people or unite them
There are two ways to lead people and drive impact.

One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual enemy and lead a crusade to conquer it. Turn it into a life or death situation ; the sense of urge unleashes unconditional support. Conquering, winning at-any-cost, is all that matters.

Another way to lead is by uniting people. Create a shared ambition and inspire people to build it with you. Turn it into a life quest ; the journey to build something bigger than themselves unites people. The desire to leave a legacy is why people join a mission.

"Leaders have two choices — to unite or divide."

You decide what he Donkey or Elephant is on.
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leaders either divide people or unite them There are two ways to lead people and drive impact. One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual...
leaders either divide people or unite them
There are two ways to lead people and drive impact.

One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual enemy and lead a crusade to conquer it. Turn it into a life or death situation ; the sense of urge unleashes unconditional support. Conquering, winning at-any-cost, is all that matters.

Another way to lead is by uniting people. Create a shared ambition and inspire people to build it with you. Turn it into a life quest ; the journey to build something bigger than themselves unites people. The desire to leave a legacy is why people join a mission.

"Leaders have two choices — to unite or divide."

You decide what he Donkey or Elephant is on.
Using that criteria what side would you say Trump is on?
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Using that criteria what side would you say Trump is on?
Trump, and all the rest are on the side of, them.
As in, us vs them.

If only because anything any of them do in the name of "us", can be undone by the stroke of a pen by another one of "them".
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Using that criteria what side would you say Trump is on?
Trump, and all the rest are on the side of, them. As in, us vs them. If only because anything any of them do in the...
Trump, and all the rest are on the side of, them.
As in, us vs them.

If only because anything any of them do in the name of "us", can be undone by the stroke of a pen by another one of "them".
Most people just can’t see that, they just want to keep saying, “Hooray, for my side”.
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My post from the other thread, in case it gets deleted. The same people that locked down the country and created a mess over the flu...
My post from the other thread, in case it gets deleted.

The same people that locked down the country and created a mess over the flu, now want me to care a bunch about Putin/Ukraine.

Some of these same people have very unethical business relationships in both Ukraine and China.

These same people think any dissent or debate is cause for censorship or worse.

These same people openly despise our Constitutional god given birth rights.

These same people are convinced the sea levels are rising and soon coastlines will be under water while their favorite politicians spend 10’s of millions on beachfront properties that are supposed to be seabed soon.

They want freedom for Ukraine but love socialism/communism here. They’re glad Ukranians are armed and fighting back but want my guns. (Make that make sense, please).

These same people celebrated the BLM scam. And put their preferred pronouns in their bios.

These same people cant answer the basic question of “what is a woman?” They attack basic cognitive reason at every chance.

And yet Im supposed to believe that despite all that, they got a firm handle on the complexities of foreign politics?

Just some basic thin slicing. This dont pass the smell test. Going to war with a nuclear superpower is not something you do on a whim. And certainly not something I’ll support coming from the group that considers truth blasphemy.

The first casualty of war is always the truth.

When Putin has as many kills as their hero Fauci, I’ll take notice. Better yet, wake me when he’s done just 1% of their communist heros Mao or Stalin. Heck, wake me when Putin has killed as many innocent children as your average abortion clinic.

Until then, find something a lil more believable to virtue signal about.
Sounds like you and r4k have a lot more in common then un common
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leaders either divide people or unite them There are two ways to lead people and drive impact. One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual...
leaders either divide people or unite them
There are two ways to lead people and drive impact.

One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual enemy and lead a crusade to conquer it. Turn it into a life or death situation ; the sense of urge unleashes unconditional support. Conquering, winning at-any-cost, is all that matters.

Another way to lead is by uniting people. Create a shared ambition and inspire people to build it with you. Turn it into a life quest ; the journey to build something bigger than themselves unites people. The desire to leave a legacy is why people join a mission.

"Leaders have two choices — to unite or divide."

You decide what he Donkey or Elephant is on.
Liberal ideology rejects leadership. They hate the patriarchy in case you haven’t noticed. So naturally, they wouldn’t know leadership if it was staring them in the face.

At the same time, they’re collectivists. They want everyone to have an opinion and equal vote - again, the antithesis of a leadership structure.

You seem to think that it’s a leader’s job to win over a mob. It isnt. If you reject leadership on principle (of which leftists do), you will not support it when it’s available.
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leaders either divide people or unite them There are two ways to lead people and drive impact. One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual...
leaders either divide people or unite them
There are two ways to lead people and drive impact.

One way is by dividing people. Create a mutual enemy and lead a crusade to conquer it. Turn it into a life or death situation ; the sense of urge unleashes unconditional support. Conquering, winning at-any-cost, is all that matters.

Another way to lead is by uniting people. Create a shared ambition and inspire people to build it with you. Turn it into a life quest ; the journey to build something bigger than themselves unites people. The desire to leave a legacy is why people join a mission.

"Leaders have two choices — to unite or divide."

You decide what he Donkey or Elephant is on.
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Using that criteria what side would you say Trump is on?
Trump is an interesting politician as far as politicians go. Most politicians want more money and power.
Trump wants recognition. You can look at all his past projects, very grandiose. So what Trump is after is
to be the biggest and best ever. However in order to do that, he needs everything under him to be successful.
In order for everything under him to be successful, "we" have to be successful. So in a nutshell, whether you like
him or not, he knew what the road blocks were for his businesses and immediately set out to remove those.
The implementation of, for any new regulation there had to be 2 removed among other things. He understood when businesses thrived, the country would thrive. So while I think he was doing it for himself, I think he had to make the country successful for him to be seen as the best. And do I care if that was his motivation? Hell no, but the swamp
sure cares. Because if we don't need the government handouts, they lose their carrots to get votes. So if the country
is doing well with people earning enough money to live, how do the politicians bribe you to vote for them if you
don't need their handout? So they needed him to fail.
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Sounds like you and r4k have a lot more in common then un common
It was insinuated this morning that he was the return of Grouper/Groyper, who Maverick confirmed is now Glowie.

Not sure if he’s a returning poster under a new name, or another new guy. I’ll attest it isn’t me debating myself, as maybe that’s where you’re going with that. I don’t mask my IP use a VPN, hide who I am, ever. In 24 or so years…..
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Trump's downfall was that, even though his policies were aimed at removing roadblocks to the benefit of the American worker, and our nation as a whole on the world stage, he failed to step to the plate insofar as his method of operation.
The pettiness of his rapid fire online actions ( the infamous mean tweets) brought him down to the level of the chickenshit bastards we elected him to be above.

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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Using that criteria what side would you say Trump is on?
Trump is charismatic. And a leader. But if enough people will do anything the TV tells them, they’ll lose their shit.

Guess who isnt a leader? A guy who’s so bad at fatherhood that his son is a crackhead.

But as I said before, main issue going against any leader going forward is that the radical left rejects the whole concept of it. Feminism rejects it. Beta males reject it. There’s no winning those people over.

Manhood, and therefore leadership, is labeled toxic these days.
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Trump's downfall was that, even though his policies were aimed at removing roadblocks to the benefit of the American worker, and our nation as a whole...
Trump's downfall was that, even though his policies were aimed at removing roadblocks to the benefit of the American worker, and our nation as a whole on the world stage, he failed to step to the plate insofar as his method of operation.
The pettiness of his rapid fire online actions ( the infamous mean tweets) brought him down to the level of the chickenshit bastards we elected him to be above.

Trump’s America first policies hurt China. And so China pulled their strings on establishment media. And everyone that subscribes to MSM as gospel took the bait.

Without leftwing media pushing the narrative, Trump would not have been nearly as polarizing.

But Im no Trumper. His handling of 2020 was very bad. Not because he didnt do enough to stop c19, but because he didnt do enough to stop the scam. He had just way too many people going against him. DC is a cesspool that one man aint gonna fix.

Trump is a centrist anyways. I would prefer a real conservative run for office. I’ll settle for DeSantis but it can get even better than him.

We wont beat leftism with compromise. They aren’t interested in it either anyways. American values need to go on the offensive. DeSantis is a good first step.

He wont be tweeting - but make no mistake all the same people that were convinced Trump was worse than Hitler will soon be programmed to feel the same about DeSantis. Heck, they already do.
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Trump's downfall was that, even though his policies were aimed at removing roadblocks to the benefit of the American worker, and our nation as a whole...
Trump's downfall was that, even though his policies were aimed at removing roadblocks to the benefit of the American worker, and our nation as a whole on the world stage, he failed to step to the plate insofar as his method of operation.
The pettiness of his rapid fire online actions ( the infamous mean tweets) brought him down to the level of the chickenshit bastards we elected him to be above.

Trump’s America first policies hurt China. And so China pulled their strings on establishment media. And everyone that subscribes to MSM as gospel took the bait...
Trump’s America first policies hurt China. And so China pulled their strings on establishment media. And everyone that subscribes to MSM as gospel took the bait.

Without leftwing media pushing the narrative, Trump would not have been nearly as polarizing.

But Im no Trumper. His handling of 2020 was very bad. Not because he didnt do enough to stop c19, but because he didnt do enough to stop the scam. He had just way too many people going against him. DC is a cesspool that one man aint gonna fix.

Trump is a centrist anyways. I would prefer a real conservative run for office. I’ll settle for DeSantis but it can get even better than him.

We wont beat leftism with compromise. They aren’t interested in it either anyways. American values need to go on the offensive. DeSantis is a good first step.

He wont be tweeting - but make no mistake all the same people that were convinced Trump was worse than Hitler will soon be programmed to feel the same about DeSantis. Heck, they already do.
What was your former username?
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What was your former username?
Deep Throat.
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What was your former username?
Deep Throat.
Was that before or, after the hot dog eating contest?
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My post from the other thread, in case it gets deleted. The same people that locked down the country and created a mess over the flu...
My post from the other thread, in case it gets deleted.

The same people that locked down the country and created a mess over the flu, now want me to care a bunch about Putin/Ukraine.

Some of these same people have very unethical business relationships in both Ukraine and China.

These same people think any dissent or debate is cause for censorship or worse.

These same people openly despise our Constitutional god given birth rights.

These same people are convinced the sea levels are rising and soon coastlines will be under water while their favorite politicians spend 10’s of millions on beachfront properties that are supposed to be seabed soon.

They want freedom for Ukraine but love socialism/communism here. They’re glad Ukranians are armed and fighting back but want my guns. (Make that make sense, please).

These same people celebrated the BLM scam. And put their preferred pronouns in their bios.

These same people cant answer the basic question of “what is a woman?” They attack basic cognitive reason at every chance.

And yet Im supposed to believe that despite all that, they got a firm handle on the complexities of foreign politics?

Just some basic thin slicing. This dont pass the smell test. Going to war with a nuclear superpower is not something you do on a whim. And certainly not something I’ll support coming from the group that considers truth blasphemy.

The first casualty of war is always the truth.

When Putin has as many kills as their hero Fauci, I’ll take notice. Better yet, wake me when he’s done just 1% of their communist heros Mao or Stalin. Heck, wake me when Putin has killed as many innocent children as your average abortion clinic.

Until then, find something a lil more believable to virtue signal about.
Damn,, well said.
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