Boyesen supercooler work?

I’m thinking of getting a the boyesen supercooler for my 2022 crf450r. And was just wondering if it’s worth it? I don’t know if I should get this along with the engine ice and a 1.8 bar radiator cap to help keep the bike cooler on the hot summer days or if The cap and engine eyes will be fine alone without the supercooler.
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2/25/2022 9:45am Edited Date/Time 3/29/2022 11:36pm
I have the Boyesen Supercooler on a 2008 Honda CRF450R running Engine Ice. In my personal experience, Engine ice did seem to cool things down a bit over OEM coolant. With a Supercooler and Engine Ice, the bike seems to run about the same temp as my 2007 Honda CRF450R with a stock water pump running Evans coolant.

Additionally, when I compare the "typical engine temps" above to other bikes that have OEM water pumps and OEM coolant (2016 YZ250F, 2020 YZ450F), they all seem to run similarly warm.

Note that I have *NOT* done an actual experiment to compare engine temps side-by-side. My observations above are *ONLY* based on the following setups I have on all my bikes:

(1) Tusk temperature-indicating radiator cap
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-high-pressure-radiator-ca…

(2) Factory Effex temp-indicator strips on the radiators and the sides of the engine cylinders
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/factory-effex-temperature-stic…

I wouldn't say either of these products are highly accurate, but rather indicate trends. And I use them in that manner.

Given my *PERSONAL* experience with the Boyesen Supercooler, I am no longer convinced it's a "must have." If looking for cooler temps, I'd start with Engine Ice based on what I've seen. If you're a pro pushing the bike for a solid 30 minutes in a sand moto, however, I'd get a Supercooler.

This MXA review aligns with my personal experience with Boyesen's Supercooler:
https://motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-boyesen-supercooler-wate…

The biggest heat generator for me is how much I slip the clutch. Rekluse clutches dropped operating temps for me given that they are better than me at constant metering of the clutch. That was my biggest source of heat. Slower speeds/lack of airflow is a close 2nd.

Hope this was valuable!

P.S. I am impressed by Evens coolant, but my current thinking is that I'd prefer to stick with more conventional coolants for ease of topping off and replacement + I'd prefer boil-over symptoms at this point versus extreme heat engine damage (e.g. seals) potential since Evans can withstand the heat of the sun ... which I never want the engine to experience. My tune has changed on this over the years, FWIW. I ran Evans from ~ 2008-2021. I ran it because I rode Baja desert conditions in the middle of summer in AZ and CA. I never had issues with Evans whatsoever, but I am simply not riding those extremes anymore. In this application I was using it as a "life line" to make sure I could make it back to the truck in case I was having overheating issues. Again, I always had good luck with Evans, just a recent change in type of riding where the extra boil-over protection is not necessary.
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2/25/2022 9:53am
Rider 5280 wrote:
I have the Boyesen Supercooler on a 2008 Honda CRF450R running Engine Ice. In my personal experience, Engine ice did seem to cool things down a...
I have the Boyesen Supercooler on a 2008 Honda CRF450R running Engine Ice. In my personal experience, Engine ice did seem to cool things down a bit over OEM coolant. With a Supercooler and Engine Ice, the bike seems to run about the same temp as my 2007 Honda CRF450R with a stock water pump running Evans coolant.

Additionally, when I compare the "typical engine temps" above to other bikes that have OEM water pumps and OEM coolant (2016 YZ250F, 2020 YZ450F), they all seem to run similarly warm.

Note that I have *NOT* done an actual experiment to compare engine temps side-by-side. My observations above are *ONLY* based on the following setups I have on all my bikes:

(1) Tusk temperature-indicating radiator cap
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-high-pressure-radiator-ca…

(2) Factory Effex temp-indicator strips on the radiators and the sides of the engine cylinders
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/factory-effex-temperature-stic…

I wouldn't say either of these products are highly accurate, but rather indicate trends. And I use them in that manner.

Given my *PERSONAL* experience with the Boyesen Supercooler, I am no longer convinced it's a "must have." If looking for cooler temps, I'd start with Engine Ice based on what I've seen. If you're a pro pushing the bike for a solid 30 minutes in a sand moto, however, I'd get a Supercooler.

This MXA review aligns with my personal experience with Boyesen's Supercooler:
https://motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-boyesen-supercooler-wate…

The biggest heat generator for me is how much I slip the clutch. Rekluse clutches dropped operating temps for me given that they are better than me at constant metering of the clutch. That was my biggest source of heat. Slower speeds/lack of airflow is a close 2nd.

Hope this was valuable!

P.S. I am impressed by Evens coolant, but my current thinking is that I'd prefer to stick with more conventional coolants for ease of topping off and replacement + I'd prefer boil-over symptoms at this point versus extreme heat engine damage (e.g. seals) potential since Evans can withstand the heat of the sun ... which I never want the engine to experience. My tune has changed on this over the years, FWIW. I ran Evans from ~ 2008-2021. I ran it because I rode Baja desert conditions in the middle of summer in AZ and CA. I never had issues with Evans whatsoever, but I am simply not riding those extremes anymore. In this application I was using it as a "life line" to make sure I could make it back to the truck in case I was having overheating issues. Again, I always had good luck with Evans, just a recent change in type of riding where the extra boil-over protection is not necessary.
It was thank you very much
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2/25/2022 11:56am
Good write up. Helpful.
2/25/2022 12:15pm
I installed one on a 2015 CRF450 a few years back and it worked for me in the scenarios where it needed to, namely high altitude woods riding. Above 7-8k feet and among the stones, stumps and switchbacks I would boil over pretty regularly. The supercooler kept that from happening. Like 5280 mentioned, these were clutch intensive rides. The addition of low speeds in thin air exacerbated the problem.

So, anecdotally, the supercooler reduced boil over on my Honda in situations that would cause boil over without it.

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