The Ukraine is in a tight spot

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2/24/2022 8:01am
kongols wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt- ukrainians say they destroyed column of 15 tanks by using Javellins.
It’s a great weapons system. My friend just got back from 3 months in UK doing an anti tank course with the British Army.
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2/24/2022 8:17am
Stay safe Kongols. Here's hoping the West sorts Putin out soon.
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2/24/2022 8:42am
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Ground fighting will begin soon. By the time the US wakes up there will be hundreds or thousands of casualties. Putin has shown his hand, Its...
Ground fighting will begin soon. By the time the US wakes up there will be hundreds or thousands of casualties. Putin has shown his hand, Its our responsibility to cut it off.
Yeah, no it is not. You should sign up to fight if you feel so strongly.
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2/24/2022 8:54am
kongols wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt- ukrainians say they destroyed column of 15 tanks by using Javellins.
Thanks for the updates , really appreciate the info
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2/24/2022 9:13am
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Massive fights going on in the east near Donetsk. Not much success for Russia there. However north and south russians took few cities. Those are forces...
Massive fights going on in the east near Donetsk. Not much success for Russia there. However north and south russians took few cities. Those are forces comming from Crimea , Belarus and Russia.


How can you differentiate the Russian from Ukrainian soldiers?
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2/24/2022 9:18am
freeh wrote:
Yeah, no it is not. You should sign up to fight if you feel so strongly.
What sort of response from the west do you think is warranted here?
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2/24/2022 9:28am
kongols wrote:
Putins biggest fanboy realizes what`s up. Czech President Miloš Zeman acknowledged that he mistakenly believed Vladimir Putin wasn’t “crazy enough” to attack Ukraine. He is now...
Putins biggest fanboy realizes what`s up.


Czech President Miloš Zeman acknowledged that he mistakenly believed Vladimir Putin wasn’t “crazy enough” to attack Ukraine. He is now calling on the international community to isolate this “madman” and defend itself “not only with words but also with concrete measures.”
Yeah our senile wheelchairboi suprisingly denounced his employers (said in Half-Life G-man voice). But him doubling down on his statements is not out of the question. Sick

What worries me greatly is Continental Taiwan being Continental Taiwan and playing all sides... Initially pretending being disgruntled now saying that Vlad can do whatever he wants as long as he will not tell on them molesting Taiwan. When you have second biggest army in the World going bonkers and third biggest army in the World playing along that raises some eyebrows.
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2/24/2022 9:53am
swordfish wrote:
I wouldn’t trust either side and what they claim. They both have corrupt douche bag leadership.
Two snakes with different flags.
At the end of the day you shouldn't blindly trust anyone.
However, I'll give Ukraine the benefit of the doubt considering Russia has such a history with disinformation campaigns, covert shit, and so forth. Also, this just seems like something Putin would encourage.
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2/24/2022 10:05am
freeh wrote:
Yeah, no it is not. You should sign up to fight if you feel so strongly.
early wrote:
What sort of response from the west do you think is warranted here?
Equal force is required to stop Putin and that means a WW111. Understandably, no one wants a WW111 and Putin knows that hence him pressing forward with his attack on the Ukraine.

The West is stuck between a rock and a hard place and sanctions ain't going to stop Putin from pushing ahead. The Ukraine will fall within the next few days and that leaves Putin to plan his next move.
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2/24/2022 10:05am
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
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2/24/2022 10:11am
Russian President Vladimir Putin threatened 'consequences you have never seen' to any country that interferes in Ukraine while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy promised 'we will defend ourselves'

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2/24/2022 10:14am
MX114 wrote:
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that...
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
Russian military forces entered the zone of the nuclear power plant and fighting there has raised fears that it could trigger a large-scale environmental disaster, Ukrainian officials said.

"Russian occupying forces are trying to take over the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Our soldiers are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 does not happen again," Zelenskiy said on Twitter.

He said Kyiv's forces are fighting off Russian troops for control of the Chernobyl plant, which spewed radioactive waste across Europe when one of its nuclear reactors exploded in April 1986.

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2/24/2022 10:19am
colintrax wrote:
swordfish wrote:
I wouldn’t trust either side and what they claim. They both have corrupt douche bag leadership.
Two snakes with different flags.
rosebud441 wrote:
you need a time out..geeze
You need to get your head out of the sand.
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2/24/2022 10:24am
Feel so sorry for the people of the Ukraine. It's a case of David vs Goliath....















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2/24/2022 10:29am
MX114 wrote:
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that...
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
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Russian military forces entered the zone of the nuclear power plant and fighting there has raised fears that it could trigger a large-scale environmental disaster, Ukrainian...
Russian military forces entered the zone of the nuclear power plant and fighting there has raised fears that it could trigger a large-scale environmental disaster, Ukrainian officials said.

"Russian occupying forces are trying to take over the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Our soldiers are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 does not happen again," Zelenskiy said on Twitter.

He said Kyiv's forces are fighting off Russian troops for control of the Chernobyl plant, which spewed radioactive waste across Europe when one of its nuclear reactors exploded in April 1986.

This is the real problem with nuclear energy, it becomes a target. If this facility was operational you could easily cause a meltdown and create all kinds of problems for the enemy.
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2/24/2022 10:33am
IanMac138 wrote:
Let's all send positive energy to kongols, the Ukranian people and military, as well as our own U.S. troops on standby right outside of Ukraine...God forbid...
Let's all send positive energy to kongols, the Ukranian people and military, as well as our own U.S. troops on standby right outside of Ukraine...God forbid they actually have to go into battle...that will officially be the threshold of literally, WWIII..we all need to remember that we, the U.S. do NOT want to go to war with Russia because this isn't 1942 where tanks and infantry battled it out...this is an era of nuclear weapons being just a push of a button away.... This is going to get so ugly. FUCK PUTIN. This is ALL on him, no one else. Full stop.
There are no U.S. troops on stand-by outside of Ukraine.
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2/24/2022 10:35am
MX114 wrote:
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that...
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
It`s a shortest way to Kiev. They will attack capital city.
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2/24/2022 10:36am
RalphS wrote:
Fuck Putin, Russian hasn't won a war since WW2 and this one won't be any different.
reded301 wrote:
The US hasn’t won one either….

On a separate note, I haven’t been out this morning, have gas prices doubled yet?
The U.S. won the Cold War, liberated Kuwait, brought down the Sadam regime, and beat AQ in Iraq.
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2/24/2022 10:37am
MX114 wrote:
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that...
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
Boomslang wrote:
Russian military forces entered the zone of the nuclear power plant and fighting there has raised fears that it could trigger a large-scale environmental disaster, Ukrainian...
Russian military forces entered the zone of the nuclear power plant and fighting there has raised fears that it could trigger a large-scale environmental disaster, Ukrainian officials said.

"Russian occupying forces are trying to take over the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. Our soldiers are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 does not happen again," Zelenskiy said on Twitter.

He said Kyiv's forces are fighting off Russian troops for control of the Chernobyl plant, which spewed radioactive waste across Europe when one of its nuclear reactors exploded in April 1986.

early wrote:
This is the real problem with nuclear energy, it becomes a target. If this facility was operational you could easily cause a meltdown and create all...
This is the real problem with nuclear energy, it becomes a target. If this facility was operational you could easily cause a meltdown and create all kinds of problems for the enemy.
Even though the facility is no longer operational the risk is high. Radioactive material is still burried deep in a room called 305/2.

Researchers monitoring the plant — which infamously exploded in a deadly 1986 meltdown — have detected a steady spike in the number of neutrons in an underground room called 305/2. The room is full of heavy rubble, concealing a radioactive mush of uranium, zirconium, graphite and sand that oozed into the plant's basement like lava, before hardening into formations called fuel-containing materials (FCMs).

Rising neutron levels indicate that these FCMs are undergoing new fission reactions, as neutrons strike and split the nuclei of uranium atoms, creating energy.

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2/24/2022 10:42am
kongols wrote:
Massive fights going on in the east near Donetsk. Not much success for Russia there. However north and south russians took few cities. Those are forces...
Massive fights going on in the east near Donetsk. Not much success for Russia there. However north and south russians took few cities. Those are forces comming from Crimea , Belarus and Russia.


colintrax wrote:
How can you differentiate the Russian from Ukrainian soldiers?
Ukrainian says “tak”, Russian says “da.”
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2/24/2022 10:43am
colintrax wrote:
swordfish wrote:
I wouldn’t trust either side and what they claim. They both have corrupt douche bag leadership.
Two snakes with different flags.
rosebud441 wrote:
you need a time out..geeze
He`s stuck in russian propaganda loop. I stopped responding some time ago. You should too.
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2/24/2022 10:48am
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable... At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will...
so stupid it came to this....was totally avoidable...

At his point making predictions is a guessing game....but i think Putin is super calculated here; he will not touch the baltics...or any other Eastern bloc NATO countries.

This is reciprocity for NATO expansion, plain and simple. Discarding Putin's perspective of his perceived security threat I think will be judged by history as a gigantic mistake...

It can be reversed if written assurance of no Ukraine NATO membership is offered. Pisses me off that in sticking to the "open door" policy, Ukraine is going to pay the highest of prices....
These arguments about Ukraine and NATO need to stop.

Currently there are three former Soviet satellite states that are now NATO. They routinely host NATO and U.S. forces, to include armor.

This NATO argument is a distraction to a pure land grab by the Russians, due to U.S. political weakness.
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2/24/2022 11:00am
Have to say, Biden´s speech was pretty good and damn clear to Russia. Putin´s patheric attempt at seeming tough last night didn´t seem to work. Prertty much said Russia and any associates are broke and going down.
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2/24/2022 11:02am
Kongols do you have any idea what is happening?

I've seen reports of Russia steam rolling the Ukrainians (including Azov battalion being wiped out) and then reports that Ukrainians are resisting much harder than expected.
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2/24/2022 11:02am
MX114 wrote:
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that...
This may be a dumb question but I just read something that said Russia intends to seize the Chernobyl site. Isn’t that site inactive? Would that make the situation that much more dangerous for the rest of Europe?
Chernobyl is still active and used. When I was there in 2018 all reactors where producing energy except the "famous" one. Even if they turned the activity off, they can not stop activites and monitoring of the reactor which exploded
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2/24/2022 11:03am
Sunhouse wrote:
Have to say, Biden´s speech was pretty good and damn clear to Russia. Putin´s patheric attempt at seeming tough last night didn´t seem to work. Prertty...
Have to say, Biden´s speech was pretty good and damn clear to Russia. Putin´s patheric attempt at seeming tough last night didn´t seem to work. Prertty much said Russia and any associates are broke and going down.
Putin’s toughness seems pretty real to the average Ukrainian right now.

With China bankrolling Putin and the U.S. bankrolling China, we’ll see how this goes.
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2/24/2022 11:03am
Javelins destroyed 15 tanks ( not a safe place to be driving a car)


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