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I bet the protestors in all the other countries around the world are protesting because Trudeau won the election and they didn't like it. Smile
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I live in Ottawa. Have voted all over the spectrum in my life. I’ve never really liked Trudeau. The people at the convoy (I visited) are...
I live in Ottawa. Have voted all over the spectrum in my life. I’ve never really liked Trudeau.

The people at the convoy (I visited) are there to bring down the government and the whole thing was organized by hate groups. Yes legit upset people joined in but it wouldn’t have happened if it was only them.

I haven’t read this thread and don’t have time to.

There was a democratic election a few months ago and people fairly voted. The cry babies lost and can’t stand losing. Maybe we should have given them a participation trophy?

Look, oppose the government, we should. But there is a democratic process we need to follow to be a civil society.

People are getting too triggered from social media that is working to put them on the opposing extreme ends of the spectrum and it’s not healthy for anyone.

We need to listen to why people feel disenfranchised. If you’re not being heard or represented, get involved in politics. It’s hard and not what people want to hear but that’s how it’s done.

If your party isn’t winning it’s because you don’t have enough people siding with you and you lose. Accept the loss or that you may be wrong.
Sounds familiar...

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I live in Ottawa. Have voted all over the spectrum in my life. I’ve never really liked Trudeau. The people at the convoy (I visited) are...
I live in Ottawa. Have voted all over the spectrum in my life. I’ve never really liked Trudeau.

The people at the convoy (I visited) are there to bring down the government and the whole thing was organized by hate groups. Yes legit upset people joined in but it wouldn’t have happened if it was only them.

I haven’t read this thread and don’t have time to.

There was a democratic election a few months ago and people fairly voted. The cry babies lost and can’t stand losing. Maybe we should have given them a participation trophy?

Look, oppose the government, we should. But there is a democratic process we need to follow to be a civil society.

People are getting too triggered from social media that is working to put them on the opposing extreme ends of the spectrum and it’s not healthy for anyone.

We need to listen to why people feel disenfranchised. If you’re not being heard or represented, get involved in politics. It’s hard and not what people want to hear but that’s how it’s done.

If your party isn’t winning it’s because you don’t have enough people siding with you and you lose. Accept the loss or that you may be wrong.
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Sounds familiar... [img]https://c.tenor.com/JfFIxtoErUkAAAAM/frye-stare.gif[/img]
Sounds familiar...

It's been really good to see you smiling more. Glad your spirits are up. Smile
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Also, to those outside Canada.

The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing.

The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do their job in the first place for whatever reason but no one wanted the convoy here. It massively disrupted lives and businesses and only helped break up the country making us weaker on the global scale.

Just emphasizing people need to get more involved through legal means if they feel they aren’t represented.

Protests are fine too, not occupations that hurt good people.
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It's been really good to see you smiling more. Glad your spirits are up. Smile
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I never thought about my choice of avatar and that it might send the wrong message. To me, it's funny. He's a funny character from an old cartoon, Underdog. That's Baron von Sinister. I thought of him a few days ago, and why I changed.

Today, I thought "I wonder if people think that's a message that I mean to be a monster?"

So, I changed it to a happy face, because contrary to popular belief, I'm a pretty happy guy
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I bet the protestors in all the other countries around the world are protesting because Trudeau won the election and they didn't like it. Smile
Ha probably not, I get people around the world are frustrated. Things are never as easy or simple as they appear, and I don’t mean hidden societies and conspiracy theories.
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TRUTH I never thought about my choice of avatar and that it might send the wrong message. To me, it's funny. He's a funny character from...
TRUTH

I never thought about my choice of avatar and that it might send the wrong message. To me, it's funny. He's a funny character from an old cartoon, Underdog. That's Baron von Sinister. I thought of him a few days ago, and why I changed.

Today, I thought "I wonder if people think that's a message that I mean to be a monster?"

So, I changed it to a happy face, because contrary to popular belief, I'm a pretty happy guy
But now they'll think you're the door greeter at Walmart. Smile
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2/19/2022 4:12pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2022 4:16pm
acres951 wrote:
Also, to those outside Canada. The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing. The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do...
Also, to those outside Canada.

The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing.

The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do their job in the first place for whatever reason but no one wanted the convoy here. It massively disrupted lives and businesses and only helped break up the country making us weaker on the global scale.

Just emphasizing people need to get more involved through legal means if they feel they aren’t represented.

Protests are fine too, not occupations that hurt good people.
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in support of it. The ones on mainstream media sites like CTV were quickly pulled down of course when they realized it did not support them.

Of course no one wanted the convoy there, nobody likes protests and disruption. Nobody wanted to go to Ottawa in February but sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. Nobody wanted to have their small businesses bankrupted, lose their jobs or be ostracized either but that didn’t stop it from happening, and still continuing.

If protests are fine, why did the police make arrests and bust these ones up? They were peaceful and they did not shut anything down, if anything was shut down it was by choice. How do you define this as a siege or occupation vs a protest? Because trucks were on the street? They did not block access from any public servants or emergency vehicles, they made a point of not impeding with law enforcement and rather working with them openly.

We’re witnessing the end of civil freedoms and liberties, good luck ever getting them back if they get away with it.
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Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
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acres951 wrote:
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty. And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been...
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
Angus Reid is a right wing polling organization? 😂
Majority of Canadians are opposed to mandates in any form. I bet even more are opposed after the shit that has gone down the last week. You seem like you don’t like people reporting the truth.
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acres951 wrote:
Also, to those outside Canada. The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing. The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do...
Also, to those outside Canada.

The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing.

The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do their job in the first place for whatever reason but no one wanted the convoy here. It massively disrupted lives and businesses and only helped break up the country making us weaker on the global scale.

Just emphasizing people need to get more involved through legal means if they feel they aren’t represented.

Protests are fine too, not occupations that hurt good people.
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Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in...
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in support of it. The ones on mainstream media sites like CTV were quickly pulled down of course when they realized it did not support them.

Of course no one wanted the convoy there, nobody likes protests and disruption. Nobody wanted to go to Ottawa in February but sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. Nobody wanted to have their small businesses bankrupted, lose their jobs or be ostracized either but that didn’t stop it from happening, and still continuing.

If protests are fine, why did the police make arrests and bust these ones up? They were peaceful and they did not shut anything down, if anything was shut down it was by choice. How do you define this as a siege or occupation vs a protest? Because trucks were on the street? They did not block access from any public servants or emergency vehicles, they made a point of not impeding with law enforcement and rather working with them openly.

We’re witnessing the end of civil freedoms and liberties, good luck ever getting them back if they get away with it.
He sounds like a civil servant.
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TRUTH I never thought about my choice of avatar and that it might send the wrong message. To me, it's funny. He's a funny character from...
TRUTH

I never thought about my choice of avatar and that it might send the wrong message. To me, it's funny. He's a funny character from an old cartoon, Underdog. That's Baron von Sinister. I thought of him a few days ago, and why I changed.

Today, I thought "I wonder if people think that's a message that I mean to be a monster?"

So, I changed it to a happy face, because contrary to popular belief, I'm a pretty happy guy
But now they'll think you're the door greeter at Walmart. Smile
I am sure it'll piss someone off....it's too big! It's too yellow! It's too happy!

That pisses me off....downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*downvote*

LOL

Wink winky guy
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2/19/2022 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2022 4:32pm
Well, many people have said they think you are really really REALLY happy. Smile
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acres951 wrote:
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty. And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been...
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
Rebel has 1.5 million subscribers. CBC has less than rebel. CBC is paid liberal propaganda group. If cbc is public broadcasting. Then they should operate
Ike pbs in America. PBS in America 🇺🇸 public finance equal to 10% of budget. The remaining must be funded via direct sales to viewers. CBC should adopt pbs structure. Likely never survive five months.
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acres951 wrote:
Also, to those outside Canada. The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing. The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do...
Also, to those outside Canada.

The vast majority of Canadians are against this whole thing.

The EMA is only an issue because the cops didn’t do their job in the first place for whatever reason but no one wanted the convoy here. It massively disrupted lives and businesses and only helped break up the country making us weaker on the global scale.

Just emphasizing people need to get more involved through legal means if they feel they aren’t represented.

Protests are fine too, not occupations that hurt good people.
nytsmaC wrote:
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in...
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in support of it. The ones on mainstream media sites like CTV were quickly pulled down of course when they realized it did not support them.

Of course no one wanted the convoy there, nobody likes protests and disruption. Nobody wanted to go to Ottawa in February but sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. Nobody wanted to have their small businesses bankrupted, lose their jobs or be ostracized either but that didn’t stop it from happening, and still continuing.

If protests are fine, why did the police make arrests and bust these ones up? They were peaceful and they did not shut anything down, if anything was shut down it was by choice. How do you define this as a siege or occupation vs a protest? Because trucks were on the street? They did not block access from any public servants or emergency vehicles, they made a point of not impeding with law enforcement and rather working with them openly.

We’re witnessing the end of civil freedoms and liberties, good luck ever getting them back if they get away with it.
swordfish wrote:
He sounds like a civil servant.
I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
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2/19/2022 4:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2022 4:35pm
EZZA 95B wrote:
acres951 wrote:
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty. And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been...
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
You’ve got to be joking, right? Does Rebel not being a major news organization make this video fake? I fail to see your point.

You go on to say that she deserved to be assaulted by the police for being in a public place, exercising her right to peacefully protest, because you don’t like them. Interesting take. If the cops did that to a black guy antagonizing them you’d be calling for their heads.

The cops were never in danger, threatened, assaulted, or any reason to use force against peaceful citizens. Defend that all you want.

To suggest that anyone was using their children as human shields is really getting ridiculous, you’ve got to be trolling to say something that stupid.
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EZZA 95B wrote:
acres951 wrote:
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty. And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been...
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
The fact you are comparing peace loving every day Canadians exercising their constitutional rights to the Taliban says it all. How much is Trudeau paying you to post this shit😂
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EZZA 95B wrote:
acres951 wrote:
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty. And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been...
Sorry not sure if you know but Rebel isn’t really news. It’s pretty nutty.
And what do you expect when you’re down there. Police have been super patient and overly gracious in warning people to get out.
Those with their kids down there, they’re like the taliban using kids as shields. Sorry it’s not right in a civil society.
nytsmaC wrote:
You’ve got to be joking, right? Does Rebel not being a major news organization make this video fake? I fail to see your point. You go...
You’ve got to be joking, right? Does Rebel not being a major news organization make this video fake? I fail to see your point.

You go on to say that she deserved to be assaulted by the police for being in a public place, exercising her right to peacefully protest, because you don’t like them. Interesting take. If the cops did that to a black guy antagonizing them you’d be calling for their heads.

The cops were never in danger, threatened, assaulted, or any reason to use force against peaceful citizens. Defend that all you want.

To suggest that anyone was using their children as human shields is really getting ridiculous, you’ve got to be trolling to say something that stupid.
Even Trudeau subsidized and left leaning CTV can’t hide how Canadians feel.
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I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
Civil servants are “B” students, the specialize in creating roadblocks to private industry, thinking about how they can create more taxation policies.. The “A” students are hired by private industry. Banks, Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers, Business leaders, Engineers, Truck Drivers….Drilling Engineers, Geologists, Physicists,
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Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in...
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in support of it. The ones on mainstream media sites like CTV were quickly pulled down of course when they realized it did not support them.

Of course no one wanted the convoy there, nobody likes protests and disruption. Nobody wanted to go to Ottawa in February but sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. Nobody wanted to have their small businesses bankrupted, lose their jobs or be ostracized either but that didn’t stop it from happening, and still continuing.

If protests are fine, why did the police make arrests and bust these ones up? They were peaceful and they did not shut anything down, if anything was shut down it was by choice. How do you define this as a siege or occupation vs a protest? Because trucks were on the street? They did not block access from any public servants or emergency vehicles, they made a point of not impeding with law enforcement and rather working with them openly.

We’re witnessing the end of civil freedoms and liberties, good luck ever getting them back if they get away with it.
swordfish wrote:
He sounds like a civil servant.
acres951 wrote:
I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
Yeah, we saw some great examples of them this week shutting down parliament, freezing hard working innocent Canadians banks accounts and hoof stomping elderly women and throwing bogus charges at them. Fuck I’m so proud.
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acres951 wrote:
I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
M1000 wrote:
Civil servants are “B” students, the specialize in creating roadblocks to private industry, thinking about how they can create more taxation policies.. The “A” students are...
Civil servants are “B” students, the specialize in creating roadblocks to private industry, thinking about how they can create more taxation policies.. The “A” students are hired by private industry. Banks, Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers, Business leaders, Engineers, Truck Drivers….Drilling Engineers, Geologists, Physicists,
Police and fire and career military, are only "B level" smart?
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Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in...
Where do you get your data that makes you think the vast majority of Canadians are against it? Every poll I’ve seen has been overwhelmingly in support of it. The ones on mainstream media sites like CTV were quickly pulled down of course when they realized it did not support them.

Of course no one wanted the convoy there, nobody likes protests and disruption. Nobody wanted to go to Ottawa in February but sometimes sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. Nobody wanted to have their small businesses bankrupted, lose their jobs or be ostracized either but that didn’t stop it from happening, and still continuing.

If protests are fine, why did the police make arrests and bust these ones up? They were peaceful and they did not shut anything down, if anything was shut down it was by choice. How do you define this as a siege or occupation vs a protest? Because trucks were on the street? They did not block access from any public servants or emergency vehicles, they made a point of not impeding with law enforcement and rather working with them openly.

We’re witnessing the end of civil freedoms and liberties, good luck ever getting them back if they get away with it.
swordfish wrote:
He sounds like a civil servant.
acres951 wrote:
I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
Here’s some of those hard working bright folks who have never missed a pay check flying Trudeaus flag.
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Look bud, I don’t think kids should be used as shields.

This was declared illegal prior to the EMA (which I’m not sure was necessary if police dealt with this in the first place) and police gave people time to leave and smoke warning.

Just because I don’t think rebel is legit News doesn’t mean I wish any harm to anyone, I really don’t. I truly believe we need to figure out how to get along and it would start with listening (on all sides).

We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.

I think we can agree on this though:
-We are both concerned about the state of the country we live in and want what we believe to be the best
-We should be able to have civil discussions around differing opinions
-putting people into corners on opposing sides isn’t healthy

I am busy but I wish we could shoot the shot over this. I’d be open to hearing what you have to say if you were as well. We won’t because we’re both likely too busy, just trying to clear the air, sorry if I’ve come off as disrespectful.

I think the real issue is income inequality and social media and most of us have more in common than we think. Government needs better representatives but that’s you and I who need to do that.
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acres951 wrote:
I’m not. Lots of civil servants are super bright hard working people though.
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Civil servants are “B” students, the specialize in creating roadblocks to private industry, thinking about how they can create more taxation policies.. The “A” students are...
Civil servants are “B” students, the specialize in creating roadblocks to private industry, thinking about how they can create more taxation policies.. The “A” students are hired by private industry. Banks, Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers, Business leaders, Engineers, Truck Drivers….Drilling Engineers, Geologists, Physicists,
flarider wrote:
Police and fire and career military, are only "B level" smart?
Maybe you don’t know a lot of that group thinking they don’t support peaceful protest and charter rights. Funny cuz that’s the guys I hang out with every day and they are fucking ashamed of Trudeau and the direction of his government. Not too many Turd fans in rank and file military as well as senior officers. You really need to get into career political ranks like Colonel and above to see that shit. There is a reason so much of the quality people are taking early outs. Sorry man but you really sound clueless.
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You realize that has nothing to do with his comments or my response, right?

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You realize that has nothing to do with his comments or my response, right?

Misquote and we all know you are working at an F level.
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I was a straight D student through high school. I arrived at Air Force basic training 2 days after I graduated (barely graduated). While in the military I picked up a BS in computer science with a math minor through the University of South Carolina missing a straight 4.0 GPA over the entire time because of a 3.5 in single class (finished with a 3.9x). I didn't realize while in high school that I was a actually a straight A student in disguise. Well, I did know it but I just hated school at the time. It didn't help that I ran the family dairy farm nearly by myself all the while. Not really anything to do with the thread topic but thanks for listening. Smile
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I think it was early this morning, but one of the live streams in Ottowa you could hear “Wheat Kings”, which ironically is about a misapplication of justice and the terribly long time it took to correct, only with help from the group itself. It seemed to me that the band headed pretty far to the left in their later years.

It made me wonder, though, have Canadian artists voiced their support of the protests?
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