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Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10. Thoughts? It's a direct replacement for the oem mouth guards, I have two options for either the prongs for a GoPro, seen in pic below. Or the slide in mount that is usually used on top of the helmet.


Would you buy one?

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Millerrr973 1/11/2022 9:28am
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Also, what other helmets would you guys like to see them for?
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The 6D is a popular helmet. Same with FLY.
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Will you be doing any of the MTB downhill helmets?
I wear my GoPro considerably more often on the DH bike and would be interested in one for my
TLD D3Fiberlite DH helmet?
Looks like a cool idea for sure!
Good luck with your efforts! 😎👍
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I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety issues. If someone is wearing your mount and gets seriously injured even if it cannot be proved to be your mount's fault not only could you be sued civilly but also the potential of criminal neglect charges aren't farfetched.

That being said a mount for a Fly Formula would be sweet. lol
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Forty 1/11/2022 11:26am
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I’d like to see the camera mounted version
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McG194 wrote:
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety...
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety issues. If someone is wearing your mount and gets seriously injured even if it cannot be proved to be your mount's fault not only could you be sued civilly but also the potential of criminal neglect charges aren't farfetched.

That being said a mount for a Fly Formula would be sweet. lol
This. And I'd like an under-visor option for Arai. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Kennyfreemoney 1/11/2022 12:03pm
1/11/2022 12:03pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2022 12:05pm
have my money for an ATR-2!

maybe try venting it as well. Not sure if it makes a huge difference or not with venting if all the chin vents are covered
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Rabbit Run 41 1/11/2022 1:18pm
1/11/2022 1:18pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2022 1:19pm
I bought this mount on-line and used it 2weeks ago. It worked well without shifting on the jumps. It clips in easy and is not permanent like other mounts.

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Millerrr973 1/11/2022 2:36pm
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motorick5052 wrote:
Will you be doing any of the MTB downhill helmets? I wear my GoPro considerably more often on the DH bike and would be interested in...
Will you be doing any of the MTB downhill helmets?
I wear my GoPro considerably more often on the DH bike and would be interested in one for my
TLD D3Fiberlite DH helmet?
Looks like a cool idea for sure!
Good luck with your efforts! 😎👍
I have a lot of friends that are into MTB. I will definitely be venturing into that segment soon. And to do that specific model TLD helmet, I would just need to get my hands on one to get the geometry right. If you'd want to send me your helmet to use as the mock up, I would give you the mount for free.
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McG194 wrote:
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety...
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety issues. If someone is wearing your mount and gets seriously injured even if it cannot be proved to be your mount's fault not only could you be sued civilly but also the potential of criminal neglect charges aren't farfetched.

That being said a mount for a Fly Formula would be sweet. lol
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't know that I agree with the legality.

If you want one for a Fly helmet, I could easily make you one, like I said before, I would just need to get my hands on one to get the geometry right.
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Kennyfreemoney wrote:
have my money for an ATR-2! maybe try venting it as well. Not sure if it makes a huge difference or not with venting if all...
have my money for an ATR-2!

maybe try venting it as well. Not sure if it makes a huge difference or not with venting if all the chin vents are covered
If you'd be willing to send me your ATR-2 to scan, I would send you a mount for free!
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Rabbit Run 41 wrote:
I bought this mount on-line and used it 2weeks ago. It worked well without shifting on the jumps. It clips in easy and is not permanent...
I bought this mount on-line and used it 2weeks ago. It worked well without shifting on the jumps. It clips in easy and is not permanent like other mounts.

This is the reason I started making these mounts.... The clip on/strap on style are not easy on the eyes in my opinion. The mounts I am making are not permanent, they bolt on the same as the mouth piece that comes on the helmet.
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Millerrr973 1/11/2022 2:41pm
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eric513anderson wrote:
Bell Moto-9
Coming soon, I have access to a Bell Moto 9 and will be making one in the coming weeks.
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I’d be willing to send you my helmet for mock-up and a free mount for the effort!
If you have an e-mail address that I can reach you on we’ll get the details worked out and I’ll ship it to you!
I won’t need the DH helmet until I start hitting the trails in Angel Fire again this spring!
There ain’t much “down-hilling” here in the
land o’ the redneck that is Oklahoma! Ha
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McG194 1/11/2022 3:33pm
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McG194 wrote:
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety...
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety issues. If someone is wearing your mount and gets seriously injured even if it cannot be proved to be your mount's fault not only could you be sued civilly but also the potential of criminal neglect charges aren't farfetched.

That being said a mount for a Fly Formula would be sweet. lol
Millerrr973 wrote:
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't...
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't know that I agree with the legality.

If you want one for a Fly helmet, I could easily make you one, like I said before, I would just need to get my hands on one to get the geometry right.
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions.

That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they" have determined them to be dangerous. By you manufacturing them you are manufacturing a "known dangerous" product.

Not trying to shit on your idea and as I was mentioning I like the idea. However, do you think you have better lawyers than Durhamtown? They owe $15 milly and it wasn't their fault.
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Two words....

Liability lawsuit.

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McG194 1/11/2022 5:48pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Two words....

Liability lawsuit.

You have a good point there; someone should have mentioned that earlier.
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Millerrr973 1/12/2022 6:57am
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McG194 wrote:
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety...
I would be a bit leery of making any new mounts nowadays. The AMA has banned helmet mounted cameras in AMA sanctioned competition due to safety issues. If someone is wearing your mount and gets seriously injured even if it cannot be proved to be your mount's fault not only could you be sued civilly but also the potential of criminal neglect charges aren't farfetched.

That being said a mount for a Fly Formula would be sweet. lol
Millerrr973 wrote:
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't...
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't know that I agree with the legality.

If you want one for a Fly helmet, I could easily make you one, like I said before, I would just need to get my hands on one to get the geometry right.
McG194 wrote:
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions. That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they"...
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions.

That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they" have determined them to be dangerous. By you manufacturing them you are manufacturing a "known dangerous" product.

Not trying to shit on your idea and as I was mentioning I like the idea. However, do you think you have better lawyers than Durhamtown? They owe $15 milly and it wasn't their fault.
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt wearing a bell helmet, I could sue bell. Or if I shoot myself, I could sue Glock.

Under this logic, GoPro should've been in court battles when the ama banned helmet mounts? I appreciate the concern though.
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LouisianaMotocross 1/12/2022 7:54am
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Millerrr973 wrote:
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10...
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10. Thoughts? It's a direct replacement for the oem mouth guards, I have two options for either the prongs for a GoPro, seen in pic below. Or the slide in mount that is usually used on top of the helmet.


Does this type of mount offer anything different than the clip mount that gopro has? Not trying to be a debbie just asking before you spend money on these. The gopro one you can take on and off without having to modify your helmet. The mount I am speaking about is literally just a clip, not like the one seen in this thread.
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Millerrr973 wrote:
Also, what other helmets would you guys like to see them for?
Bell moto 9 and it would be cool if you could make some sort of insert for the Fly Formula and TLD SE4/5, but neither of them have removable mouth pieces.
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Millerrr973 wrote:
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10...
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10. Thoughts? It's a direct replacement for the oem mouth guards, I have two options for either the prongs for a GoPro, seen in pic below. Or the slide in mount that is usually used on top of the helmet.


You should post a link to a webiste/fb marketplace/instagram/MXLocker acct. where we can contact you about ordering these.
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Millerrr973 wrote:
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't...
That would be up to the user, I know the AMA has banned helmet mounts, this would be for practice days and what not. I don't know that I agree with the legality.

If you want one for a Fly helmet, I could easily make you one, like I said before, I would just need to get my hands on one to get the geometry right.
McG194 wrote:
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions. That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they"...
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions.

That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they" have determined them to be dangerous. By you manufacturing them you are manufacturing a "known dangerous" product.

Not trying to shit on your idea and as I was mentioning I like the idea. However, do you think you have better lawyers than Durhamtown? They owe $15 milly and it wasn't their fault.
Millerrr973 wrote:
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt...
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt wearing a bell helmet, I could sue bell. Or if I shoot myself, I could sue Glock.

Under this logic, GoPro should've been in court battles when the ama banned helmet mounts? I appreciate the concern though.
Just curiously; do you think that in the USA of today, you couldn't sue Bell after getting hurt wearing their helmet, and have at least a marginal chance of winning? Sadly, I believe you could. Just because it's maddeningly WRONG doesn't mean it isn't possible.

From an advice standpoint, maybe think about setting up an LLC, if you haven't already. At least you could then rest a little easier, knowing your home and personal belongings aren't on the table.

Cool idea and a good product. Best of luck!
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crashnburn11 1/12/2022 8:48am
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It looks like a cool mount. What is your snap point? Have you done calcs or FEA to determine the amount of force to snap it off in a crash at different impact angles?
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Millerrr973 1/12/2022 10:50am
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Millerrr973 wrote:
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10...
Just trying to gauge interest, I'm going to do a small batch to start out, currently have models for the Bell Moto 10 and Alpinestars SM10. Thoughts? It's a direct replacement for the oem mouth guards, I have two options for either the prongs for a GoPro, seen in pic below. Or the slide in mount that is usually used on top of the helmet.


SFellure33 wrote:
You should post a link to a webiste/fb marketplace/instagram/MXLocker acct. where we can contact you about ordering these.
I will be posting links soon!
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McG194 wrote:
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions. That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they"...
We all know that we should be responsible to make our own decisions.

That doesn't change the fact that the AMA has banned them because "they" have determined them to be dangerous. By you manufacturing them you are manufacturing a "known dangerous" product.

Not trying to shit on your idea and as I was mentioning I like the idea. However, do you think you have better lawyers than Durhamtown? They owe $15 milly and it wasn't their fault.
Millerrr973 wrote:
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt...
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt wearing a bell helmet, I could sue bell. Or if I shoot myself, I could sue Glock.

Under this logic, GoPro should've been in court battles when the ama banned helmet mounts? I appreciate the concern though.
Falcon wrote:
Just curiously; do you think that in the USA of today, you couldn't sue Bell after getting hurt wearing their helmet, and have at least a...
Just curiously; do you think that in the USA of today, you couldn't sue Bell after getting hurt wearing their helmet, and have at least a marginal chance of winning? Sadly, I believe you could. Just because it's maddeningly WRONG doesn't mean it isn't possible.

From an advice standpoint, maybe think about setting up an LLC, if you haven't already. At least you could then rest a little easier, knowing your home and personal belongings aren't on the table.

Cool idea and a good product. Best of luck!
I'm in the process of starting up an LLC. I agree that there are some crazy court cases in the USA but there are ways to protect yourself and I am taking those steps in hopes to avoid a scenario like that.

Thanks for the support!
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Millerrr973 wrote:
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt...
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Maintaining a facility and selling a product are entirely different topics. Under that logic, if I get hurt wearing a bell helmet, I could sue bell. Or if I shoot myself, I could sue Glock.

Under this logic, GoPro should've been in court battles when the ama banned helmet mounts? I appreciate the concern though.
Falcon wrote:
Just curiously; do you think that in the USA of today, you couldn't sue Bell after getting hurt wearing their helmet, and have at least a...
Just curiously; do you think that in the USA of today, you couldn't sue Bell after getting hurt wearing their helmet, and have at least a marginal chance of winning? Sadly, I believe you could. Just because it's maddeningly WRONG doesn't mean it isn't possible.

From an advice standpoint, maybe think about setting up an LLC, if you haven't already. At least you could then rest a little easier, knowing your home and personal belongings aren't on the table.

Cool idea and a good product. Best of luck!
Millerrr973 wrote:
I'm in the process of starting up an LLC. I agree that there are some crazy court cases in the USA but there are ways to...
I'm in the process of starting up an LLC. I agree that there are some crazy court cases in the USA but there are ways to protect yourself and I am taking those steps in hopes to avoid a scenario like that.

Thanks for the support!
Cool

Good luck with the product!
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Kidkawie 1/12/2022 7:18pm
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Wow, some nervous nellies all worked up over a helmet cam mount, lol. Must be winter.

Oneal Sierra 2. There is no place to even stick the gopro mounts.
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Kidkawie wrote:
Wow, some nervous nellies all worked up over a helmet cam mount, lol. Must be winter. Oneal Sierra 2. There is no place to even stick...
Wow, some nervous nellies all worked up over a helmet cam mount, lol. Must be winter.

Oneal Sierra 2. There is no place to even stick the gopro mounts.
Why nervous nellies? It's not being a nervous nellie to be realistic about the litigious society we live in.

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