MXGP and MX US, your pick!

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Edited Date/Time 11/18/2021 6:13am
Just a bit of a game here. Every duals was made from the champs standings. You chose the one rider that you automatically thought who is better FOR YOU (not for everyone else out there, we know we can argue for hours).

You can copy the duals and give your fast answer after the "="

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis =
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac =
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen =
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb =
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton =
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig =
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin =
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy =
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia =
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger =

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence =
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper =
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence =
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire =
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda =
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin =
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner =
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman =
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland =
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz =
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Herlings (DF never beat the Bullet...)
Tomac (Febvre is human, ET is not)
Gajser (Diamond vs. Glass, KR94 is too brittle)
Webb (Seewer's time is coming but currently CW2 is better)
Prado
Cairoli (not even close)
Coldenhoff
Jonass (one is world champ, the other is choke artist)
Barcia (TKO is no match in 1 vs.1 race)
Plessinger

Jettson Lawrence
Geerts
Vialle
Guadagnini
Shimoda
JMart
KDW
Benistant
Fernandez
Schwartziboi!
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spojetski 11/14/2021 4:11am
11/14/2021 4:11am Edited Date/Time 11/14/2021 4:12am
What track and who prepped it ? Lommel during MXGP in march or Fox Raceway in july ? Let's say Red Bud MXON then, AMA track, Euro prep'.

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder
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ajv#26 11/14/2021 5:20am
11/14/2021 5:20am Edited Date/Time 11/14/2021 5:26am
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonas
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Beaton
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder

Any track! Zero preparation!

And now wait for the traditional "if it was on a sx track"
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11/14/2021 6:19am
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Lawrence
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Geerts
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Beaton
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin =Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = de Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder
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RC vs all the above racers = RC.

RC vs. Tamir's mom = Tamir's mom
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Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings, he is rarely beaten, but when he is it's probably by himself.
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = this is a tricky one, but I'm going with Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer, but I think this one is close.
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Hoff
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Geerts
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Guadagnini
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Beaton
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Hofer
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez, off topic but what he did on a 450 in the last gp's was crazy, thought we would be somewhere around 15th place but he went nuts.
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder

After completing this I noticed that it's highly on the GP guys side.
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Sully 11/14/2021 10:41pm
11/14/2021 10:41pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2021 3:53pm
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gasjer over an entire series, but in a one off race, I'd say it's 50/50.
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = End of US season Webb
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Tony by a huge margin
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = The Hoff
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = AP

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Jett
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Geerts by a nose
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle (without the injury, I think he would have won again this year)
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Guadagnini over a series, but RJ in a one off race
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Jo
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = JMart (a healthy JMart has all of the 250 guys on this list covered, in my opinion)
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Mosiman
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Schwartz
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11/15/2021 12:07am
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Webb
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Jett
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder

I’ve taken SX skill into account a little bit. If it’s MX only I’ll take Seewer over Webb and Coldenhoff over Marv right now
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EnvyMedia 11/15/2021 4:31am
11/15/2021 4:31am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2021 4:39am
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Febvre (He's close to JH atm)
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser (He's close to JH atm)
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer (Just a better outdoor guy)
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado (Holeshots and checks out)
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli (Pretty obvious who's better here..)
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin (Bit of a coin toss.. depends on the day I guess)
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass (not even close)
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia (barcia by a huge margin)
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger (plessinger by a huge margin)

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Lawrence (could be close but think Jett has the edge)
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper (could be close but think Justin has the edge)
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle (not even close... Vialle holeshots and checks out)
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire (Hampshire has more raw speed imo)
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda (I have no clue, Shimoda based on his progression)
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin (not even close)
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf (De Wolf is younger with much more potential and progression)
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant (I have no clue.. Benistant shows more signs)
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Vohland (Vohlands progression is impressive)
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Schwartz (no clue actually)
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Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = ET
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Roczen
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Webb
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Sexton
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = LOL
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Mooscan
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonas
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger
Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Guadagnini
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Beaton
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = JMart
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Mosiman
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Schwartz.
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Shaft721 11/15/2021 6:42am
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spojetski wrote:
What track and who prepped it ? Lommel during MXGP in march or Fox Raceway in july ? Let's say Red Bud MXON then, AMA track...
What track and who prepped it ? Lommel during MXGP in march or Fox Raceway in july ? Let's say Red Bud MXON then, AMA track, Euro prep'.

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder
You are so full of shit, has Febvre ever beaten Tomac in a moto?

Pretty sure Tomac is like 6 for 6 when they lined up.

Renaux better than Jett nah.

Be a little more realistic....

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spojetski 11/15/2021 8:53am
11/15/2021 8:53am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2021 9:08am
spojetski wrote:
What track and who prepped it ? Lommel during MXGP in march or Fox Raceway in july ? Let's say Red Bud MXON then, AMA track...
What track and who prepped it ? Lommel during MXGP in march or Fox Raceway in july ? Let's say Red Bud MXON then, AMA track, Euro prep'.

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Cooper
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Hampshire
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder
Shaft721 wrote:
You are so full of shit, has Febvre ever beaten Tomac in a moto? Pretty sure Tomac is like 6 for 6 when they lined up...
You are so full of shit, has Febvre ever beaten Tomac in a moto?

Pretty sure Tomac is like 6 for 6 when they lined up.

Renaux better than Jett nah.

Be a little more realistic....

Why so butthurt, i guess this was to be expected, being the first yank to comment these; look up the answers, they are pretty much all similars. If you believe Jett is faster than the 2021 world champ, that is your opinion.
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Renner153 11/15/2021 9:01am
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Argaudas wrote:
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings, he is rarely beaten, but when he is it's probably by himself. Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = this...
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Herlings, he is rarely beaten, but when he is it's probably by himself.
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = this is a tricky one, but I'm going with Febvre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer, but I think this one is close.
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Hoff
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Geerts
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Guadagnini
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Beaton
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Hofer
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Fernandez, off topic but what he did on a 450 in the last gp's was crazy, thought we would be somewhere around 15th place but he went nuts.
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = Laengenfelder

After completing this I noticed that it's highly on the GP guys side.
I didnt think there could be wrong answers to this....but then I read your 250 responses and realized, there can be
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Track - Red Bud just to bias. Not gonna put a sand track in front of Herlings Smile

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Dylan, he's alot better than last time he raced JH and would surprise, I know this goes against conventional wisdom that Herlings is FMOTP.
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac but close
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer, Cooper is getting better but Seewer's final races speed tips the scale
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado, was injured and faster than final results show
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = AC was injured and faster than results show
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Marvin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger, was injured and faster than final results show

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Jett
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Justin, toss up, Geerts crashes more
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle (was injured, clearly fastest in class)
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = RJ
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Jo
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Jeremy
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Kay De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Mosiman
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Vohland
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz =Dilan
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Sully 11/15/2021 4:09pm
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
RC vs all the above racers = RC.

Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Downvotes doesn’t make it less true. RC in his prime beats them all.
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between apples and oranges, and you posted about grapes...
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mx313 11/16/2021 12:08am
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I think 250 ama is faster then 250 gps coz of the age rule.
Ama has guys like Jeremy Martin, Justin cooper and rj Hampshire still racings. Guys who would have aged out in gp's.
Also in previous years guys like ferrandis was racing.
But another reason why this makes the ama 250s faster is ferrandis winning prevents a guy like Justin cooper from winning and moving up early.
Take out the plus 23 riders and jett would already be a 2 time champion so he would be bumped upto 450s just like what happened to prado.
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
RC vs all the above racers = RC.

Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Downvotes doesn’t make it less true. RC in his prime beats them all.
Sully wrote:
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between...
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between apples and oranges, and you posted about grapes...
It comes from those with sour grapes. RC beats them all.
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Sully 11/16/2021 2:20am
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Downvotes doesn’t make it less true. RC in his prime beats them all.
Sully wrote:
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between...
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between apples and oranges, and you posted about grapes...
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
It comes from those with sour grapes. RC beats them all.
“Because I said so” isn’t a very sound debate tactic…
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Suicidal_Tendencies 11/16/2021 12:09pm
11/16/2021 12:09pm
Sully wrote:
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between...
Something without a definitive answer can't be true or false. The downvotes to your post come from the fact that OP asked us to choose between apples and oranges, and you posted about grapes...
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
It comes from those with sour grapes. RC beats them all.
Sully wrote:
“Because I said so” isn’t a very sound debate tactic…
150 wins, 2 perfect seasons, and having never lost a title defense is.
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Sully 11/16/2021 4:07pm
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
It comes from those with sour grapes. RC beats them all.
Sully wrote:
“Because I said so” isn’t a very sound debate tactic…
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
150 wins, 2 perfect seasons, and having never lost a title defense is.
The OP asked us to do a one-to-one comparison of the top 10 in the 2021 MXGP & US Nationals, and you bring up a guy who's not even and option – and has been retired for 15 years – then get attitude like yours is the perfect answer? Get the fuck outta here with that shit...
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nissan_ 11/17/2021 12:26am
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KurtJ99 wrote:
Track - Red Bud just to bias. Not gonna put a sand track in front of Herlings :) Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Dylan, he's...
Track - Red Bud just to bias. Not gonna put a sand track in front of Herlings Smile

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Dylan, he's alot better than last time he raced JH and would surprise, I know this goes against conventional wisdom that Herlings is FMOTP.
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac but close
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer, Cooper is getting better but Seewer's final races speed tips the scale
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado, was injured and faster than final results show
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = AC was injured and faster than results show
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Marvin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger, was injured and faster than final results show

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Jett
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Justin, toss up, Geerts crashes more
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle (was injured, clearly fastest in class)
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = RJ
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Jo
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Jeremy
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Kay De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Mosiman
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Vohland
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz =Dilan
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy. Ferrandis is fast but in MXGP he isn’t competitive. All the guys who don’t succeed in MXGP go to America. Herlings literally beat Tomac nearly every single time and nearly all of that being on home turf. Tomac is I believe skill wise better than Ferrandis so you already know who’s a better rider. The American motocross isn’t the same anymore because you can’t compare them Europeans much. Euro guys train MX all year round whilst the American dudes need to get ready for SX. Call me a Herlings fanboy which I kind of am but truth be told Herlings is a better rider. Herlings won whilst never having to dip to America.
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nissan_ 11/17/2021 12:29am
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
RC vs all the above racers = RC.

Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Downvotes doesn’t make it less true. RC in his prime beats them all.
We can’t know that. RC was fast but those guys were racing shitty bikes compared to what we have now man. I think Herlings would really put up a fight in the sand against him. As much as I love RC we’d need to see it happen before we can say something.
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nissan_ wrote:
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy...
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy. Ferrandis is fast but in MXGP he isn’t competitive. All the guys who don’t succeed in MXGP go to America. Herlings literally beat Tomac nearly every single time and nearly all of that being on home turf. Tomac is I believe skill wise better than Ferrandis so you already know who’s a better rider. The American motocross isn’t the same anymore because you can’t compare them Europeans much. Euro guys train MX all year round whilst the American dudes need to get ready for SX. Call me a Herlings fanboy which I kind of am but truth be told Herlings is a better rider. Herlings won whilst never having to dip to America.
They go to America because they want to race Supercross.

Ferrandis not competitive in MXGP? Yeah, okay. 🙄
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Mavetism 11/17/2021 12:49am
11/17/2021 12:49am
nissan_ wrote:
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy...
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy. Ferrandis is fast but in MXGP he isn’t competitive. All the guys who don’t succeed in MXGP go to America. Herlings literally beat Tomac nearly every single time and nearly all of that being on home turf. Tomac is I believe skill wise better than Ferrandis so you already know who’s a better rider. The American motocross isn’t the same anymore because you can’t compare them Europeans much. Euro guys train MX all year round whilst the American dudes need to get ready for SX. Call me a Herlings fanboy which I kind of am but truth be told Herlings is a better rider. Herlings won whilst never having to dip to America.

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nissan_ 11/17/2021 1:31am
11/17/2021 1:31am Edited Date/Time 11/17/2021 1:32am
nissan_ wrote:
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy...
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy. Ferrandis is fast but in MXGP he isn’t competitive. All the guys who don’t succeed in MXGP go to America. Herlings literally beat Tomac nearly every single time and nearly all of that being on home turf. Tomac is I believe skill wise better than Ferrandis so you already know who’s a better rider. The American motocross isn’t the same anymore because you can’t compare them Europeans much. Euro guys train MX all year round whilst the American dudes need to get ready for SX. Call me a Herlings fanboy which I kind of am but truth be told Herlings is a better rider. Herlings won whilst never having to dip to America.
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They go to America because they want to race Supercross.

Ferrandis not competitive in MXGP? Yeah, okay. 🙄
You can hate on me all you want but he isn’t on par with Herlings or top 3 guys in MXGP. Everyone hates my opinion cause I share my actual thoughts not bandwagon. I’d take it all back if guy smoked everyone in Europe and take my hat off to him but he’s not better at MX than the other guys in Europe.

I’m sure they go there for SX or whatever but most of the guys that go to the US have been smoked day in and day out in Europe. American racing is different. It’s not on the same level anymore my man. Tracks tend to be gnarlier in Europe as well.
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tommyjif 11/17/2021 2:30am
11/17/2021 2:30am
kaidodragon wrote:
Just a bit of a game here. Every duals was made from the champs standings. You chose the one rider that you automatically thought who is...
Just a bit of a game here. Every duals was made from the champs standings. You chose the one rider that you automatically thought who is better FOR YOU (not for everyone else out there, we know we can argue for hours).

You can copy the duals and give your fast answer after the "="

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis =
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac =
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen =
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb =
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton =
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig =
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin =
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy =
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia =
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger =

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence =
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper =
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence =
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire =
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda =
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin =
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner =
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman =
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland =
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz =
Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = JH
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Fevre
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Outdoor on par, I prefer Webb attitude.
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = talent wise probably Sexton, but time will tell.
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = Cairoli
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Musquin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Lupino

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Renaux
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Geerts
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = Guadagnini
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Shimoda
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Martin
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = no idea
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Benistant
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = ?
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz = ?
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crusty_xx 11/17/2021 6:02am
11/17/2021 6:02am
KurtJ99 wrote:
Track - Red Bud just to bias. Not gonna put a sand track in front of Herlings :) Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Dylan, he's...
Track - Red Bud just to bias. Not gonna put a sand track in front of Herlings Smile

Jeffrey Herlings vs Dylan Ferrandis = Dylan, he's alot better than last time he raced JH and would surprise, I know this goes against conventional wisdom that Herlings is FMOTP.
Romain Febvre vs Eli Tomac = Tomac but close
Tim Gajser vs Ken Roczen = Gajser
Jeremy Seewer vs Cooper Webb = Seewer, Cooper is getting better but Seewer's final races speed tips the scale
Jorge Prado Garcia vs Chase Sexton = Prado, was injured and faster than final results show
Antonio Cairoli vs Christian Craig = AC was injured and faster than results show
Glenn Coldenhoff vs Marvin Musquin = Marvin
Pauls Jonass vs Joey Savatgy = Jonass
Thomas Kjer Olsen vs Justin Barcia = Barcia
Alessandro Lupino vs Aaron Plessinger = Plessinger, was injured and faster than final results show

Maxime Renaux vs Jett Lawrence = Jett
Jago Geerts vs Justin Cooper = Justin, toss up, Geerts crashes more
Tom Vialle vs Hunter Lawrence = Vialle (was injured, clearly fastest in class)
Mattia Guadagnini vs RJ Hampshire = RJ
Jed Beaton vs Jo Shimoda = Jo
Rene Hofer vs Jeremy Martin = Jeremy
Kay De Wolf vs Austin Forkner = Kay De Wolf
Thibault Benistant vs Michael Mosiman = Mosiman
Ruben Fernandez vs Max Vohland = Vohland
Simon Laengenfelder vs Dilan Schwartz =Dilan
nissan_ wrote:
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy...
I know it’s your opinion, my friend but we all know Ferrandis would get spat on by Herlings. What Herlings did this season was pretty crazy. Ferrandis is fast but in MXGP he isn’t competitive. All the guys who don’t succeed in MXGP go to America. Herlings literally beat Tomac nearly every single time and nearly all of that being on home turf. Tomac is I believe skill wise better than Ferrandis so you already know who’s a better rider. The American motocross isn’t the same anymore because you can’t compare them Europeans much. Euro guys train MX all year round whilst the American dudes need to get ready for SX. Call me a Herlings fanboy which I kind of am but truth be told Herlings is a better rider. Herlings won whilst never having to dip to America.
I know it's your opinion my friend but a dude from Canada just came over and finished top 10 on a non-factory bike so in what world would Dylan Ferrandis not be competitive in MXGP? I don't say he's better than Herlings but at Red Bud he would give him all he can handle and then some
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Rad76 11/17/2021 6:35am
11/17/2021 6:35am Edited Date/Time 11/17/2021 6:36am
crusty_xx wrote:
I know it's your opinion my friend but a dude from Canada just came over and finished top 10 on a non-factory bike so in what...
I know it's your opinion my friend but a dude from Canada just came over and finished top 10 on a non-factory bike so in what world would Dylan Ferrandis not be competitive in MXGP? I don't say he's better than Herlings but at Red Bud he would give him all he can handle and then some
Agree with that... DF14 used to battle Herlings on 250 on a shitty bike in a shit show team. Considering his slight improvements since this days, i'd say he could at least make it interesting. Kenny was decent in GP also, if i remember correctly. And Marv.

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