Market testing the lows from Oct

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Anyone watching zoom (zm) on Monday as it’s earnings come out.
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I sold my IPOB last week for a loss and it's gained every day since ha ha. That happens to me pretty much every time. Smile Question is, will Trevor sell all his shares? He'll be eligible to do that starting tomorrow.
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Not sure why QS didn't cross my radar.

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Check out BLOZF if you don't mind a bit of a gamble.

I bought in last week at $0.48 on the beta test press release.

It went to $0.82 late yesterday. If it goes to $0.90+ this week, I wouldn't be surprised to see it at $1.50 by sometime next week.

It could also easily lose momentum and hang out around $0.50 until the next update on the beta testing though and then it'll depend on those results.
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Check out BLOZF if you don't mind a bit of a gamble. I bought in last week at $0.48 on the beta test press release. It...
Check out BLOZF if you don't mind a bit of a gamble.

I bought in last week at $0.48 on the beta test press release.

It went to $0.82 late yesterday. If it goes to $0.90+ this week, I wouldn't be surprised to see it at $1.50 by sometime next week.

It could also easily lose momentum and hang out around $0.50 until the next update on the beta testing though and then it'll depend on those results.
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12/2/2020 5:45am Edited Date/Time 12/2/2020 5:46am
Hmm, might be your platform limiting to better exchanges. It is a pink sheet stock, so not everyone deals with those. That's part of why it is a gamble too. A penny stock for sure, but if those price points hit and the beta testing goes well, I wouldn't be surprised to see them uplist to a proper exchange in the relatively near future.

The company is Cannabix Technologies. The basic concept is they created a breathalizer for THC. If the testing proves its effectiveness it would have a huge market in law enforcement, employers, and schools regardless of whether cannabis is legalized or remains illegal. The upside is pretty big on a relatively small purchase price, and since the test is underway now, there is a fairly definitive timeline of when it will either put up or shut up.

I wouldn't bet the farm on it or anything, but it has some real potential if this beta test go well.
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I bought SNOW on 10/5/2020 @ $238.50. It closed Friday 12/4/2020 @ $387.70. Not sure if I should hold or take some cash out. Thoughts?
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That depends on if you are investing or if you are trading. Smile
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Stephon wrote:
I bought SNOW on 10/5/2020 @ $238.50. It closed Friday 12/4/2020 @ $387.70. Not sure if I should hold or take some cash out. Thoughts?
I’m a trader and would have cashed out around $300/share.
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That depends on if you are investing or if you are trading. Smile
Ha! Wow, I'm stumped, lol! I guess I'm an investor... I usually buy and hold, but I think I wanna develop a better instinct of when to take profits.
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Stephon wrote:
I bought SNOW on 10/5/2020 @ $238.50. It closed Friday 12/4/2020 @ $387.70. Not sure if I should hold or take some cash out. Thoughts?
reded wrote:
I’m a trader and would have cashed out around $300/share.
I have a lot to learn!
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Wow, the stock mega bubble that also makes cars on the side now has a current PE ratio sitting around 1250!

Now 8,300% overvalued (compared to industry average P/E)

How high will it go?
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12/7/2020 8:34am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2020 8:36am
My guess is it will hit 800 on or before the 21st. I might let a few shares go at that time and put it into ENPH and SBE.
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So you suggesting their market cap will grow to 723 billion in a little over 2 weeks

So 10,100% overvalued

or 3.75 times more valuable than Toyota?

(Toyota sold 10.7 million units in 2019, Tesla sold 0.37 million)

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12/7/2020 10:06am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2020 10:27am
I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just guessing that's where it will be on or before the 21st, the date when a LOT of TSLA shares MUST be bought by all the S&P 500 folks. What's your guess for where the TSLA price will be on the 21st?
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But now that you mention it, yes, I believe they are worth that much more than Toyota. Toyota will be lucky to be in business 10 or 15 years down the road.
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12/7/2020 10:48am
Ok, now I get it...

Toyota will most likely go out of business around 2030-2035, sales down to 0.

Tesla sales will go from 0.37 million to 40.31 in that same time span to justify the market cap of 800/share, an increase of 108 times.

Soooo a unit sales increase of 7.2 to 10.8 times sales per year for the next decade to reach that goal.

How are they doing this year? From Jan-Sep sales were 0.32 million. So at that pace lets say sales in 2020 end up 0.40 million units, an increase of 0.03 million from 2019. Uh oh, Tesla should have had sold 2.66 - 3.70 million units this year to be on track for that goal.


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12/7/2020 10:55am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2020 11:07am
In case you haven't noticed the future is electric vehicles. Tesla is the "clear" leader in that space and on a path to producing 20M vehicles by 2030. And vehicles will only be a tiny fraction of their revenue. Software as a service is a big portion of it, as will grid storage and solar, as well as Insurance, etc, etc. Toyota may not go out of business if they can figure out how to build electric vehicles that people will want to buy, and for a profit, but they have a lot of work to do. Maybe Tesla will buy them, then they would have a better chance. Smile Telsa has a huge advantage of not being mired down by legacy infrastructure and practices. They are redefining more than one industry.
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Most of the TSLA stock is owned by long term investors such as myself, who do not want to sell. Put that in combination with all of those S&P 500 shares that MUST be bought on the 21st and it's a recipe for the stock price to skyrocket. None of those other calculations mean anything whatsoever right now. Obviously I believe in the mission which is why I put my money where my mouth is. I only have about $30k of my own money still tied up in TSLA but what I do have is worth around $500k right now, up over $30k just today. I know that's probably peanuts to what you play with and if it goes down tomorrow, oh well. I think I am good until the 21st though and I might pull that last $30k of my own money back out at that time and play entirely on house money from here on out.
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I don't think going from 0.37 to 0.40 million unit sales from 2019-2020 is "on track" for sales to go to 20.0 million in the next 10 years.

I don't think software services and insurance are going to make up for the rest of the 10X growth per year they're going to need.

From what I've seen, solar is a looser that needs a lot of government $$ to make up the difference.

Saying Tesla is going to buy Toyota is like saying my local Quick-E Mart is going to buy Walmart. I think Toyota would be the buyer in that scenario.



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Do some searching on Giga Shanghai, Giga Berlin, and Giga Texas. Those factories will be pumping out 5 or 6 million within the next 2 or 3 years. There will be many more factories to come and I expect announcements soon. The Shanghai factory was pumping out vehicles less than a year after breaking ground and will have paid for itself in about another year. Do you know how much they are charging for FSD? Their margins are really incredible.
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Is it fundamentals? Or is it from this:


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I'm not sure what that is, first time I've seen it.
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Tesla has a bit of a cult like feeling to me. An eccentric billionaire tells everyone what he's going to do, encourages everyone to get on board and invest. They all throw money at it, he drip feeds a few things out to try and give the appearance of being bigger and more successful than it is at this point in time. The Share price sky rockets and everyone points to that as proof of success, which then makes the share price jump again.

I'm not saying Tesla isnt going to be a success, but the numbers it is producing at the moment doesn't justify the hype and the price. I guess as long as when you buy it you're aware that you're actually buying the theory at the moment and nothing tangible then its fine.

As far as Toyota, if anybody thinks they aren't also on the cutting edge of electric car development then i think they're grossly underestimating them. Just because there's no once a year showcase of a new model coming down the pipeline in who knows how many years time doesnt mean the product isnt there. In the meantime they'll sell Millions of ICE and hybrid cars and make profit doing so.
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Most of the TSLA stock is owned by long term investors such as myself, who do not want to sell. Put that in combination with all...
Most of the TSLA stock is owned by long term investors such as myself, who do not want to sell. Put that in combination with all of those S&P 500 shares that MUST be bought on the 21st and it's a recipe for the stock price to skyrocket. None of those other calculations mean anything whatsoever right now. Obviously I believe in the mission which is why I put my money where my mouth is. I only have about $30k of my own money still tied up in TSLA but what I do have is worth around $500k right now, up over $30k just today. I know that's probably peanuts to what you play with and if it goes down tomorrow, oh well. I think I am good until the 21st though and I might pull that last $30k of my own money back out at that time and play entirely on house money from here on out.
First of all I hate you, because I should have listened when I thought it was too high two years ago. Second of all congratulations.
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Well, it "might" not be too late to get in ha ha. Smile
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I'm not sure what that is, first time I've seen it.
It's a chart of M1 money supply, aka the amount of cash or cash equivalents in the system. The Fed has increased this amount by 40% in the past 8 months.


Now all together now..... thank you federal reserve bank for diluting the dollar and pushing up asset prices.

No pain for billionaires
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I'm too stupid to understand any of what you are saying. What do you want me to do, sell all my TSLA? Smile
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