New car oil change

just James
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Just finished changing the oil in my wife's Fiat 500. What a pain. My daughter has one also, so I get the privilege of changing the oil in both of them. It is as if the engineers purposely designed it to be as difficult as possible. The first time I did one of them, I literally couldn't find the oil filter. Had to look up the location on the internet. The drain for the oil pan is directly above a cross brace, so the oil runs all over the place unless you put some kind of trough over the brace to guide the oil.
Makes me wonder if they are intentionally designing them to be such a pain that people will take the car to the stealership for any and all maintenance.
The '04 Volkswagen, and the '07 'Benz that we had were also a real pain.
With older rigs, an oil change is usually about a 15 minute job.
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Chance1216 9/19/2020 10:49am
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The oil filter on my wife’s Lexus is directly under the exhaust manifold. It’s also in a spot that gets oil all over everything while burning the hell out of you taking it off when the cars warm. I have to put a couple rags under it and take it off fast or I’m cleaning up oil.
Your right l, I miss the easy access of older vehicles to.
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gklefev 9/19/2020 11:37am
9/19/2020 11:37am
Fumoto valve will change your life!! When it comes to this problem
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Dirtydeeds 9/19/2020 6:44pm
9/19/2020 6:44pm
Pretty sure thats exactly why they do it. Make it hard so you spend the money for them to do it.
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Dirtydeeds 9/19/2020 6:44pm
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You need the billywho! The real ones know...
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71Fish 9/19/2020 9:57pm
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From a government program manager perspective, it's lack testing to save development dollars. The mechanic will figure it out. It all comes down to money.
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SEE ARE125 9/19/2020 10:14pm
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I’m convinced an engineer caught his wife banging a mechanic.
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Nighttrain 9/20/2020 12:12am
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I’ve changed the oil in a lot of different engines in my driveway thru the years. My current 2009 F150 has one of the most difficult oil filters to reach. I wonder how much value is placed on such things during the design process?
Chris99Flannery 9/20/2020 1:10am
9/20/2020 1:10am
Checking the oil level in a bmw! Fuck them. Takes 15 mins to do. The dipstick engineers designed no dipstick
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plowboy 9/20/2020 5:47am
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Don't get me started...it's too early in the morning to get pissed off.Angry Tongue
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TG130 9/20/2020 9:53am
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just James wrote:
Just finished changing the oil in my wife's Fiat 500. What a pain. My daughter has one also, so I get the privilege of changing the...
Just finished changing the oil in my wife's Fiat 500. What a pain. My daughter has one also, so I get the privilege of changing the oil in both of them. It is as if the engineers purposely designed it to be as difficult as possible. The first time I did one of them, I literally couldn't find the oil filter. Had to look up the location on the internet. The drain for the oil pan is directly above a cross brace, so the oil runs all over the place unless you put some kind of trough over the brace to guide the oil.
Makes me wonder if they are intentionally designing them to be such a pain that people will take the car to the stealership for any and all maintenance.
The '04 Volkswagen, and the '07 'Benz that we had were also a real pain.
With older rigs, an oil change is usually about a 15 minute job.
Sounds a lot like the F150 I used to own. Oil wouldn't drain without hitting about 10 other parts in the path. And the oil filter - you could see it, but you had to practically be a contortionist to get at it. What a pain in the ass !
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APLMAN99 9/20/2020 10:30am
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just James wrote:
Just finished changing the oil in my wife's Fiat 500. What a pain. My daughter has one also, so I get the privilege of changing the...
Just finished changing the oil in my wife's Fiat 500. What a pain. My daughter has one also, so I get the privilege of changing the oil in both of them. It is as if the engineers purposely designed it to be as difficult as possible. The first time I did one of them, I literally couldn't find the oil filter. Had to look up the location on the internet. The drain for the oil pan is directly above a cross brace, so the oil runs all over the place unless you put some kind of trough over the brace to guide the oil.
Makes me wonder if they are intentionally designing them to be such a pain that people will take the car to the stealership for any and all maintenance.
The '04 Volkswagen, and the '07 'Benz that we had were also a real pain.
With older rigs, an oil change is usually about a 15 minute job.
My wife’s 06 Beetle is like that. You have to remove a ton of stuff to get to the oil drain plug.

Come to find out, it’s actually designed to have the used oil to be pulled out through the dipstick tube, like you do in a boat.

Our local Walmart auto centers have transitioned to doing all of their oil changes this way. I was told that it’s because they were having to replace a huge number of oil pans because they couldn’t help but cross thread the things when putting the drain plugs back in.
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RonSkj 9/20/2020 8:26pm
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gklefev wrote:
Fumoto valve will change your life!! When it comes to this problem
^^^This ^^^ Slip a piece of hose on the valve, no more mess. No bolt to remove &
reinstall.
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ns503 9/21/2020 4:00am
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I haven't done an oil change on any of our vehicles for years. Like, 10 or 20. At least. Just can't be bothered going thru the hassle all to save a few bucks, not worth getting my hands dirty for. Then dealing with the old oil later. Our last 3 Hondas have intervals in the 10,000-12,000km area, so it doesn't happen that often anyway.

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