Matthes ... hypocrite..

St Ann More wrote:

[b]Matthes - "Youthstream keeping adding GP's and push the date back".[/b] Newsflash: 2020 - 27th September 2019 - 29th September 2018 - 7th October 2017 -...

Matthes - "Youthstream keeping adding GP's and push the date back". Newsflash:

2020 - 27th September
2019 - 29th September
2018 - 7th October
2017 - 1st October
2016 - 25th September
2015 - 27th September
2014 - 28th September
2013 - 29th September
2012 - 30th September
2011 - 18th September
2010 - 26th September
2009 - 4th October
2008 - 28th September
2007 - 24th September
2006 - 24th September
2005 - 25th September
2004 - 3rd October

Matthes - "I'll give a mulligan to Zacho; shitty starts, rain, vision, narrow track". Kevin Strijbos crashed on the start in the last race. He was 36th after lap 1, but came through the pack and put 20 seconds on Zach to finish 11th. Let's be real and I like Zach, he was poor all day. He came from 13th to 5th in a pretty weak (450 wise) field in the first race. He started to go backwards in the last race (with a deeper field) and ultimately got lucky that 4 riders ahead of him had mechanicals and could've finished 17th.

Matthes - "I don't want to sound like a dick and i'm bagging on Zach or the guys ahead of him, but it's a classic fucking example of it being different, just different - you cannot say, this guy did this, so this guy is gonna do this in Europe". Yet, multiple times during the show he states certain riders from Europe wouldn't do this or that in the US.

Matthes wrote:

Maybe, unlike you, I go back further in this sport than 2004? Or maybe you cherry picked your dates from 2004 and up but when I...

Maybe, unlike you, I go back further in this sport than 2004? Or maybe you cherry picked your dates from 2004 and up but when I speak about the dates, here's what I mean and I can go further back if you want. So my statement that they keep pushing the date back is correct.

1989 Sept 10- Germany
1990 Sept 16- Sweden
1991 Sept 8- Holland
1992 Sept 6- Australia
1993 Sept 12- Austria
1994 Sept 11- Switzerland
1995 Sept 10- Slovakia
1996 Sept 22- Spain
1997 Sept 14- Belgium
1998 Sept 27- GB
1999 Sept 26- Brazil
2000 Sept 10- France
2001 Sept 30- Belgium
2002 (Dates all jacked up with Socal race)
2003 Oct 5- Belgium

TeamGreen wrote:

Is it Supercross, yet?

kiwifan wrote:

OP has totally misconstrued what was said and then others back him up clearly without hearing what was really said ...typical Although I may not agree...

OP has totally misconstrued what was said and then others back him up clearly without hearing what was really said ...typical

Although I may not agree with ANY journalist 100% of the time, I do respect their opinion. Bashing them is just gutless, stupid and a waste of time.

Matthes wrote:

I didn't make my statement "Since YS took over..." there were no qualifications about the statement other than it has been pushed later and later throughout...

I didn't make my statement "Since YS took over..." there were no qualifications about the statement other than it has been pushed later and later throughout the years.

Thanks for coming out.

jemcee wrote:

Has Nerd taken over Matthes' profile?

St Ann More wrote:

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over. You might "go back further in the sport" and...

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over.

You might "go back further in the sport" and continue to be dismissive of people as "uneducated" but the fact remains, you stated on the show that "Youthstream keep adding GP's and push the date back".

You're now just scraping the barrel going back nearly 30 years to find a real step change:

1988-1995 - September 10th (on average).
1996-2003 - September 29th (on average).
2004-2011 - September 26th (on average).
2012-2019 - September 29th (on average).

None of this was a damn issue until Team USA stopped winning!

St Ann More wrote:

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over. You might "go back further in the sport" and...

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over.

You might "go back further in the sport" and continue to be dismissive of people as "uneducated" but the fact remains, you stated on the show that "Youthstream keep adding GP's and push the date back".

You're now just scraping the barrel going back nearly 30 years to find a real step change:

1988-1995 - September 10th (on average).
1996-2003 - September 29th (on average).
2004-2011 - September 26th (on average).
2012-2019 - September 29th (on average).

None of this was a damn issue until Team USA stopped winning!

Crossup wrote:

All of this 'level playing field' discussion would end with a reasonably simple change in the schedules of BOTH the US Nationals and the MXGP series...

All of this 'level playing field' discussion would end with a reasonably simple change in the schedules of BOTH the US Nationals and the MXGP series.

We have all heard the problems:

• The timing does not suit with the Nationals ending 6 weeks earlier than GPs = perceived GP rider advantage
being at peak fitness.

• The event is too late, and with many of the tracks are in crappy weather climates = rains ruin the overall race (cant
see the track through the cameras)

• Top riders in the US have to move from Nationals right to SX training/prep = US team investment will favor SX
over other events

• The costs of traveling for teams and equipment ($300k?) = no team is going to raise their hand to spend that $$$.


Scheduling Change: IMO looking at both the US Nationals and MXGP schedules, if the MXoN were agreed to be scheduled in the last 3 weeks of July, as a break in the middle of the US Nationals and MXGP schedule, this would address most of the problems listed above.

• All riders worldwide would be in the middle of their fitness and performance for outdoor motocross racing.

• The weather is generally favorable in July.

• There would be no US training/prep conflicts for SX.

• The 'break' would be a welcome benefit to the riders, mechanics, and families in both series.

• A neutral event location may be considered that reduces the costs, (maybe when the MXGPs are hopping from
Europe to Asia).

philG wrote:

Did it not occur to you while you typed this , that its as likely to happen as Stew racing it.

St Ann More wrote:

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over. You might "go back further in the sport" and...

I haven't cherry picked anything, I simply provided the MXoN dates since Youthstream (circa 04/05) took over.

You might "go back further in the sport" and continue to be dismissive of people as "uneducated" but the fact remains, you stated on the show that "Youthstream keep adding GP's and push the date back".

You're now just scraping the barrel going back nearly 30 years to find a real step change:

1988-1995 - September 10th (on average).
1996-2003 - September 29th (on average).
2004-2011 - September 26th (on average).
2012-2019 - September 29th (on average).

None of this was a damn issue until Team USA stopped winning!

Crossup wrote:

All of this 'level playing field' discussion would end with a reasonably simple change in the schedules of BOTH the US Nationals and the MXGP series...

All of this 'level playing field' discussion would end with a reasonably simple change in the schedules of BOTH the US Nationals and the MXGP series.

We have all heard the problems:

• The timing does not suit with the Nationals ending 6 weeks earlier than GPs = perceived GP rider advantage
being at peak fitness.

• The event is too late, and with many of the tracks are in crappy weather climates = rains ruin the overall race (cant
see the track through the cameras)

• Top riders in the US have to move from Nationals right to SX training/prep = US team investment will favor SX
over other events

• The costs of traveling for teams and equipment ($300k?) = no team is going to raise their hand to spend that $$$.


Scheduling Change: IMO looking at both the US Nationals and MXGP schedules, if the MXoN were agreed to be scheduled in the last 3 weeks of July, as a break in the middle of the US Nationals and MXGP schedule, this would address most of the problems listed above.

• All riders worldwide would be in the middle of their fitness and performance for outdoor motocross racing.

• The weather is generally favorable in July.

• There would be no US training/prep conflicts for SX.

• The 'break' would be a welcome benefit to the riders, mechanics, and families in both series.

• A neutral event location may be considered that reduces the costs, (maybe when the MXGPs are hopping from
Europe to Asia).