Chad Reed..132 Podiums ??

toroP wrote:

Watch 2014, A2 and A3.
2012, LA.
2011, San Diego

theprizefighter wrote:

I don’t doubt that Reed is one of the all-time greats, or that there haven’t been races where he was unbeatable. His numbers and stats speak...

I don’t doubt that Reed is one of the all-time greats, or that there haven’t been races where he was unbeatable. His numbers and stats speak for themselves and his legacy is sealed. But he never beat RC for a title, and he never beat James for one when they both raced the entire series together. Same with the Ryan’s, Reed never beat them for a title in sx. I’m a Dungey fan more so than RV, but RV clearly had Dungey’s number in sx when they raced together with the possible exception of 2010. That, along with titles and wins is why I’d place the aforementioned racers ahead of Reed on that list.

bama205 wrote:

Bull shit he beat JS and RD. He just didn’t win the title, he was beaten by RV. BUT HE DID beat JS AND RD!!

toroP wrote:

Watch 2014, A2 and A3.
2012, LA.
2011, San Diego

theprizefighter wrote:

I don’t doubt that Reed is one of the all-time greats, or that there haven’t been races where he was unbeatable. His numbers and stats speak...

I don’t doubt that Reed is one of the all-time greats, or that there haven’t been races where he was unbeatable. His numbers and stats speak for themselves and his legacy is sealed. But he never beat RC for a title, and he never beat James for one when they both raced the entire series together. Same with the Ryan’s, Reed never beat them for a title in sx. I’m a Dungey fan more so than RV, but RV clearly had Dungey’s number in sx when they raced together with the possible exception of 2010. That, along with titles and wins is why I’d place the aforementioned racers ahead of Reed on that list.

toroP wrote:

What causes these exchanges are statements like, “ a healthy Reed never touched a healthy Stewart.”, which is false. Then when someone refutes it, you redefine...

What causes these exchanges are statements like, “ a healthy Reed never touched a healthy Stewart.”, which is false.
Then when someone refutes it, you redefine it.
And when you look at seasons, in 2011 Reed was 2nd to RV, 4 points back, but beat both Dungey and Stewart.

toroP wrote:

Hey RichieW/stats master, can you post total SX points by rider?

RichieW13 wrote:

Yeah. Here is the top 20 since 1990. (My data before 1990 is spotty.) 1 Chad Reed 4354 2 Mike LaRocco 3656 3 Jeremy McGrath 3490...

Yeah.

Here is the top 20 since 1990. (My data before 1990 is spotty.)

1 Chad Reed 4354
2 Mike LaRocco 3656
3 Jeremy McGrath 3490
4 Kevin Windham 3368
5 Ryan Dungey 2782
6 Larry Ward 2501
7 Ricky Carmichael 2358
8 James Stewart 2239
9 Davi Millsaps 2102
10 Nicholas Wey 2022
11 David Vuillemin 2005
12 Andrew Short 1923
13 Ryan Villopoto 1919
14 Ezra Lusk 1881
15 Justin Brayton 1858
16 Mike Kiedrowski 1757
17 Tim Ferry 1699
18 Jeff Stanton 1670
19 Jeff Emig 1642
20 Eli Tomac 1612

CPR wrote:

The who's better argument between RC, CR, JS, RV & RD can go around in circles forever. If someone doesn't agree, they just change the goal...

The who's better argument between RC, CR, JS, RV & RD can go around in circles forever. If someone doesn't agree, they just change the goal posts like the Reed haters here.
However there is one major difference between Reed and the rest, one which can't be overstated;
All his peers, the legends of SX are American. They succeeded at home, with the backing of their family, after being semi-professional juniors with established sponsors and money.
Reed came from a poor family on the other side of the world, left on his own, still as a kid, just him and his girlfriend. Came to the states, where he's beat the world's best at their own game and still doing it on his own terms seventeen years later.
Doesn't matter who your favourite rider is, I honestly don't understand how you can be a fan of this sport and not be a fan of Reed's career and achievements.

theprizefighter wrote:

Name one time — one time — Reed beat Stewart for the title when they both raced the entire series. I haven’t redefined anything here, I’ve...

Name one time — one time — Reed beat Stewart for the title when they both raced the entire series. I haven’t redefined anything here, I’ve just stated some easily provable facts. I’m not talking about single races; hell, Dungey beat RV in single races in sx but it’s undisputed that RV had the upper hand and was the better racer when they competed together. I’m talking about titles and number of wins.