So Pep Boys must not have got the memo

WhipMeister
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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 3:58am
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting there on the floor just begging for new homes. Not one CPSC warning in site. Lots of friendly, helpful salespeople.

It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.
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Soozie125
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3/25/2009 4:48pm
This puzzles me.

Is there some kind of hidden agenda here?
mx356
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3/25/2009 4:51pm
There's a business in my town in TX that all they have are China pit bikes and mini 4 wheelers and stuff like that and there still selling stuff as well.
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3/25/2009 5:00pm
mx356 wrote:
There's a business in my town in TX that all they have are China pit bikes and mini 4 wheelers and stuff like that and there...
There's a business in my town in TX that all they have are China pit bikes and mini 4 wheelers and stuff like that and there still selling stuff as well.
Same here.
3/25/2009 5:01pm
I'll tell ya, Yamaha shop out here got them in the window...

The Shop

3/25/2009 5:21pm
Minibikes are being sold in the Mid-Atlantic no problem.

One possibility- nobody is enforcing the law, but the manufacturers are acting on the old "abundance of caution."-- and pulling the units themselves.
Being essentially foreign companies maybe they are spooked by the whole thing because the CPSC outlawed 3 wheelers and has had ATVs in their sites for a long time. No foreign company wants to mess with the US feds--- individual people like Malcolm Smith are different!



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3/25/2009 5:28pm
I guess we here in the midwest are just a bunch of goodie two shoes????


no dealers have the machines on the floor and no parts to be had.

of course the chinese knock off stuff is readily available.

go figure


my hat is tipped to Malcom.........IF i was a dealer and could afford it, i would do exactly the same. In Fact groups of dealer should get together and say we are selling our product.....what would the oem's do fire them all???? doubt it.
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3/25/2009 5:41pm
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting...
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting there on the floor just begging for new homes. Not one CPSC warning in site. Lots of friendly, helpful salespeople.

It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.
It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.

I agree but the OEMs are seen as "deep pockets" companies and my guess is that dealers have orders to push the mini's in the back room and shelf them for now.
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3/25/2009 5:49pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:05pm
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting...
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting there on the floor just begging for new homes. Not one CPSC warning in site. Lots of friendly, helpful salespeople.

It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.
i said that from the get go.

it's almost like they are using this law for something else...hmmm.

"ain't got no money cuz of this lead law"

"we can't race anymore cuz of this lead law"

"bikes are so much more now because of the no lead requirement they made us do"


etc....

3/25/2009 6:26pm
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting...
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting there on the floor just begging for new homes. Not one CPSC warning in site. Lots of friendly, helpful salespeople.

It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.
jmar wrote:
[b]It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold...
It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.

I agree but the OEMs are seen as "deep pockets" companies and my guess is that dealers have orders to push the mini's in the back room and shelf them for now.
you got it, all my stuff is hidden away. not worth the hassle for the little bit of cake i make on fiddy's and small stuff. they can shut your ass down if they want to. plus the first little kid injured with a dad for a lawyer will have a field day!!!
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Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting...
Was just in there picking up a few parts for the cars. They have a couple of dozen bright, shiny, new Chinese minis and ATVs sitting there on the floor just begging for new homes. Not one CPSC warning in site. Lots of friendly, helpful salespeople.

It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.
jmar wrote:
[b]It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold...
It still a stupid law, but I think the Japanese OEMs' legal departments have overreacted. I doubt there's a court in the land that would uphold application of that law to a motorcycle.

I agree but the OEMs are seen as "deep pockets" companies and my guess is that dealers have orders to push the mini's in the back room and shelf them for now.
you got it, all my stuff is hidden away. not worth the hassle for the little bit of cake i make on fiddy's and small stuff...
you got it, all my stuff is hidden away. not worth the hassle for the little bit of cake i make on fiddy's and small stuff. they can shut your ass down if they want to. plus the first little kid injured with a dad for a lawyer will have a field day!!!
What's funny is that a lot of people on this board think the dealers make a lot of money on their dirt bike market. Every dealer I have be associated doesn't make much off of their dirt bike/race bike line.

Please clear this up for me.
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3/25/2009 7:11pm
BobbyM wrote:
i said that from the get go. it's almost like they are using this law for something else...hmmm. "ain't got no money cuz of this lead...
i said that from the get go.

it's almost like they are using this law for something else...hmmm.

"ain't got no money cuz of this lead law"

"we can't race anymore cuz of this lead law"

"bikes are so much more now because of the no lead requirement they made us do"


etc....

"bikes are so much more now because of the no lead requirementr they made is do"


BINGO $
WhipMeister
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3/25/2009 8:16pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:06pm
you got it, all my stuff is hidden away. not worth the hassle for the little bit of cake i make on fiddy's and small stuff...
you got it, all my stuff is hidden away. not worth the hassle for the little bit of cake i make on fiddy's and small stuff. they can shut your ass down if they want to. plus the first little kid injured with a dad for a lawyer will have a field day!!!
He'd have to be injured from eating a clutch cover.

If I owned a dealership, I'd definitely ignore it. The chances of it going against you are slim and none. In fact, I'll bet it would be really easy for the MIC to fund an "insurance pool" from premiums paid by their dealers to pay for a defense in the event it ever was tried. Somebody ought to look into that.
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3/25/2009 9:57pm
many retailers that deal in motorcycles have elected to "ignore" the ridiculous CPSC law.....

and in other genre's that cater product to under 12 year olds, i have seen it gone entirely ignored..... if anything, the typical motorcycle retailer is the rarity in removing their inventory ment for 12 and below from their showrooms... in most other genres, nothing has been tested, nor removed.... in other genre's, simple "this product ment for 14 years and older" stickers have been applied to every product they sell, including those obviously ment for the under 10 crowd......

if....... if the gov were to pursue the CPSC law, it would have to tackle not just hundreds, but thousands, and perhaps tens of thousands of retailers that have to date ignored the law....
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3/25/2009 11:03pm
wardy wrote:
I guess we here in the midwest are just a bunch of goodie two shoes???? no dealers have the machines on the floor and no parts...
I guess we here in the midwest are just a bunch of goodie two shoes????


no dealers have the machines on the floor and no parts to be had.

of course the chinese knock off stuff is readily available.

go figure


my hat is tipped to Malcom.........IF i was a dealer and could afford it, i would do exactly the same. In Fact groups of dealer should get together and say we are selling our product.....what would the oem's do fire them all???? doubt it.
of course the chinese knock off stuff is readily available.

go figure



dead on and i laughed my ass off...thanks.


btw, isn't that the way it always happens? Smile

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