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Unless Kawasaki, Honda & Suzuki are willing to hand the 250 World Championship to Yamaha or KTM on a silver platter, they are going to have to start building smokers again.
Lost respect with the long winded bullshit that lays the blame on issues not pertaining to the national mx series.
I'm not going to start any octopus shit in here but it seems like the amateur dept. of the morgantown mafia would deal with the lead laws. Not the people in charge of revamping the professional nationals.
Then they drop the midway through sx bullshit. 1. How long ago did they know they were getting the nationals, fall 08? 2. Remember the gatorback orphan national mid sx season. Or in 03-05 when guys had one week between Vegas and Glen Helen to switch from 250 smokers to 450's. None of that bullshit holds water with me.
I am stoked on them getting lucas and a tv package. I'm just as urked by the rhetoric on the 2stroke issue as I am the issue itself. Expect this kind of watered down garbage every time they have to address a sticky subject.
Don't get me wrong...My younger son will be on a 250T this summer racing in the Amatuer Lites. It is cheaper on me for parts and Maintenance but, I know that it is a much faster bike than the 250F's. I will do it because the rules allow it but....It really is not fair. I just think it's funny that some of you think it's straight up. Carry on.
I mean, if that hadn't blown up, would Hon-Kaw-Suz had 2-strokes ready to go?
It makes no sense.
The lead thing does seem like a cop-out. There are lots of 2-strokes out there right now that could be ready to race Nationals in no time. That's what these teams and riders do. The teams aren't going to be involved in fighting a lead ban at all. It's not like its going to take a huge factory effort to get this off the ground. In fact, I would be surprised if the factories jumped at it.
No doubt there will be a lot of OEM resources dedicated to fighting this lead garbage, and rightfully so. But the racing people won't be involved with that fight, their budgets are already allocated. Plus, the whole idea with 2-strokes is that it makes the entire damn thing cheaper! They will be saving money to run one of the smokers!
Write the rule and let 'em race.
J-Law on YZ250 vs 250F
http://twostrokemotocross.com/...hat-could-have-been/
Where did you get that FIM info for 2010? We can take it for real?
This would have been SO COOL. Crappy party poppers.
Everyone knows that in certain situations a 4 stroke puts the power down easier and is faster around a track with less HP. In the hands of a top pro a 250F is probably just as fast as a 250T...but at least the 250T will help the privateer.
Hell Villopoto turned faster lap times than most 450's all year outdoors.
Pit Row
Official Press Release FIM, December 21 2007
A meeting of the Motocross Grand Prix Permanent Bureau, composed of Messrs. Vito Ippolito, FIM President, and Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream President, was held on December 1st in Monaco, in the presence of Messrs Wolfgang Srb, CMS President, Guy Maitre, FIM Chief Executive Officer and Ignacio Verneda, FIM Sports Director, in order to discuss future rules of Motocross and SuperMoto. The following decisions were taken by the Permanent Bureau:
1) Mr Ippolito underlined the FIM program "significant noise reduction" in Motocross and SuperMoto, which has full support from Youthstream. A "dynamic noise test" should be introduced in MX1/2, MXoN and S1/2, SMoN as of 1.1.2009. The Technical Panel will make field tests as of the beginning of the 2008 season in order to work on the regulations for 2009.
2) Motocross Classes: as of 2010, single cylinder engines will be used in MX1 and MX2 and multi-cylinder in MX3, whether 2 or 4- stroke (open concept). The cubic capacity will be 250cc in MX2, and up to 650cc in MX3. Discussions are currently being held about the cubic capacity in MX1. A decision should be taken in the next three months.
Concerning the MX2 class, a maximum age limit of 23 years will be introduced. Moreover, a World Champion will be allowed to defend his title only one time (in the following year).
3) The FIM Junior World Championship will have an additional class as of 1.1.2010: 65cc. All the classes (65cc, 85cc, 125cc) will be exclusively 2-stroke.
4) The motorcycle minimum weights will also be reviewed by the FIM Technical Panel.
5) The FIM President asked to study the problem of electronic sophisticated technology (such as traction control, etc) in Motocross and SuperMoto. Riders should be able to show their riding skills and talent without costly technical means.
Not sure how it would all transfer to the ground any better than a 2-stroke.
I used the dyno figures because you were the one that said a 2-stroke doesn't make 10 more hp. How would you know without a dyno?
I mentioned this in a earlier thread also......lets say (hypothetically) the 250 2t rule passes for the nats, the minute a rider starts winning on a 250 2t on one of the few bikes that are actually still in production the "Big other 3" would throw some weight and protest that so fast the exception would be gone faster that it was implemented .....think Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki..... you don't think their lack of still producing a 250 2t and the pull they have with the sanctioning bodies of the outdoors had anything to do with this decision? Come on now.....
Pass the 250t vs 250f rulex
James could drop down and still win on his 04 kx125.
People are acting like Billy Bermbuster from Cornfield, South Dakota is going to get a yz 250 and start waxing dungey.
The point WAS simple: We are beat to death with this slow economy, no budget in mx right now bullshit. So the masses suggest a CHEAPER way to go racing and the other side makes it sound like the most ignorant thing they have ever heard.
It doesn't matter now; whats done is done. When 2010 rolls around they will sweep it under the rug again with some useless banter just like this year. If they would have just came clean from the start they wouldn't have to deal with it now, or next year.
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