Lots of shootings and terrorism in London lately...

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At least they got the bad guy today....
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Andy_Greenney 3/22/2017 9:36am
3/22/2017 9:36am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 9:37am
Gunfire was the armed police....how smart can you be attacking armed police with a knife haha

Lots lately? I must have been away when the others happened...
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huck 3/22/2017 9:56am
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Gunfire was the armed police....how smart can you be attacking armed police with a knife haha Lots lately? I must have been away when the others...
Gunfire was the armed police....how smart can you be attacking armed police with a knife haha

Lots lately? I must have been away when the others happened...
You must have been....

http://www.murdermap.co.uk/news.asp
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PalerBlue 3/22/2017 10:09am
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huck wrote:
You must have been....

http://www.murdermap.co.uk/news.asp
Wow, more than I expected Sad

Still, two things,
First (quoting from your own link)......
"The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 - a 9% decrease on 2015 figures".

Second, London's a BIG city, have you got figures for and equivalently sized(8.5 million in 2014) U.S. city?

Still, like I said, many more murders than I'd like

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Sunhouse 3/22/2017 10:13am
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Wow, more than I expected :( Still, two things, First (quoting from your own link)...... "The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 -...
Wow, more than I expected Sad

Still, two things,
First (quoting from your own link)......
"The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 - a 9% decrease on 2015 figures".

Second, London's a BIG city, have you got figures for and equivalently sized(8.5 million in 2014) U.S. city?

Still, like I said, many more murders than I'd like
109 homocides in a city with what, 8-9million people isn't much.

OT, will be interesting to see how this develops
Andy_Greenney 3/22/2017 10:40am
3/22/2017 10:40am
Homicides are terrorist attacks now? A lot of gang related violence though, .London is a cesspit in general
Andy_Greenney 3/22/2017 10:54am
3/22/2017 10:54am
On the attack today, something makes me a little suspicious about an idiot driving in to a load of French school kids and 'trying' to attack MPs just when we about to invoke Article 50 and start negotiations.
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FastEddy 3/22/2017 11:04am
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Andy_Greenney wrote:
On the attack today, something makes me a little suspicious about an idiot driving in to a load of French school kids and 'trying' to attack...
On the attack today, something makes me a little suspicious about an idiot driving in to a load of French school kids and 'trying' to attack MPs just when we about to invoke Article 50 and start negotiations.
It is weird...coincidence or not.

They still haven't released any motives yet.
Should be interesting to see their motives/who's behind this so-called possible terror attack.
Andy_Greenney 3/22/2017 11:12am
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It is weird...coincidence or not.

They still haven't released any motives yet.
Should be interesting to see their motives/who's behind this so-called possible terror attack.
I would rather they didn't, that my biggest issue with any of these attacks. They should focus on the victims rather than make a celebrity of the culprits.
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watson 3/22/2017 11:25am
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I would rather they didn't, that my biggest issue with any of these attacks. They should focus on the victims rather than make a celebrity of...
I would rather they didn't, that my biggest issue with any of these attacks. They should focus on the victims rather than make a celebrity of the culprits.
So true. The media is giving the culprits exactly what they want.
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huck 3/22/2017 11:38am
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FastEddy wrote:
It is weird...coincidence or not.

They still haven't released any motives yet.
Should be interesting to see their motives/who's behind this so-called possible terror attack.
Andy_Greenney wrote:
I would rather they didn't, that my biggest issue with any of these attacks. They should focus on the victims rather than make a celebrity of...
I would rather they didn't, that my biggest issue with any of these attacks. They should focus on the victims rather than make a celebrity of the culprits.
Yep. I wouldn't mention his name...let alone his whole history (which is what the media seems to do).
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kzizok 3/22/2017 8:18pm
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PalerBlue wrote:
Wow, more than I expected :( Still, two things, First (quoting from your own link)...... "The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 -...
Wow, more than I expected Sad

Still, two things,
First (quoting from your own link)......
"The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 - a 9% decrease on 2015 figures".

Second, London's a BIG city, have you got figures for and equivalently sized(8.5 million in 2014) U.S. city?

Still, like I said, many more murders than I'd like
Sunhouse wrote:
109 homocides in a city with what, 8-9million people isn't much.

OT, will be interesting to see how this develops
Homocide rate is close to 1 per 80,000.
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F.B 3/22/2017 9:05pm
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huck wrote:
You must have been....

http://www.murdermap.co.uk/news.asp
PalerBlue wrote:
Wow, more than I expected :( Still, two things, First (quoting from your own link)...... "The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 -...
Wow, more than I expected Sad

Still, two things,
First (quoting from your own link)......
"The Metropolitan Police recorded 109 homicides in London in 2016 - a 9% decrease on 2015 figures".

Second, London's a BIG city, have you got figures for and equivalently sized(8.5 million in 2014) U.S. city?

Still, like I said, many more murders than I'd like
New York City: 8.5 million residents / 334 homicides in 2016
Los Angeles: 3.9 million residents / 294 homicides in 2016
Chicago: 2.7 million residents / 762 homicides in 2016
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Sunhouse 3/23/2017 3:14am
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Homocide rate is close to 1 per 80,000.
Which numbers do you use? I.e. Are you comparing homocides in the area of greater London with just the metropolitan population? London is huge and I don't get the same number or ratio as you do
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RG1 3/23/2017 4:33am
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huck wrote:
Yep. I wouldn't mention his name...let alone his whole history (which is what the media seems to do).
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
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JAFO92 3/23/2017 4:47am
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They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem...
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
Cant be true, persons of a particular persuasion will have you believe theres nothing wrong at all and you sir are a racist and islamophobe.

Nothing to see here, move along.
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RG1 3/23/2017 4:55am
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They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem...
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
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Cant be true, persons of a particular persuasion will have you believe theres nothing wrong at all and you sir are a racist and islamophobe. Nothing...
Cant be true, persons of a particular persuasion will have you believe theres nothing wrong at all and you sir are a racist and islamophobe.

Nothing to see here, move along.
Very true unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head. Not being able to question or criticise things without being called a bigot or a racist is a huge part of the problem.
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JAFO92 3/23/2017 5:04am
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Very true unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head. Not being able to question or criticise things without being called a bigot or a racist...
Very true unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head. Not being able to question or criticise things without being called a bigot or a racist is a huge part of the problem.
Correct. And we all know who to thank for this scenario. But oh thats right, you cant say that either.

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RG1 3/23/2017 5:07am
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Correct. And we all know who to thank for this scenario. But oh thats right, you cant say that either.

Yep. Oh well, maybe if we keep being nice to them they'll stop Huh
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kzizok 3/23/2017 5:55am
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Homocide rate is close to 1 per 80,000.
Sunhouse wrote:
Which numbers do you use? I.e. Are you comparing homocides in the area of greater London with just the metropolitan population? London is huge and I...
Which numbers do you use? I.e. Are you comparing homocides in the area of greater London with just the metropolitan population? London is huge and I don't get the same number or ratio as you do
Im agreeing with you. I just divided 8.7 million by 109 homocides. I dont know if there is another way to figure it, just thought of it off the top of my head?
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Brad460 3/23/2017 6:04am
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F.B wrote:
New York City: 8.5 million residents / 334 homicides in 2016 Los Angeles: 3.9 million residents / 294 homicides in 2016 Chicago: 2.7 million residents /...
New York City: 8.5 million residents / 334 homicides in 2016
Los Angeles: 3.9 million residents / 294 homicides in 2016
Chicago: 2.7 million residents / 762 homicides in 2016
What is the common link with all these cities? Hint- a certain political party has run these cities for ever..
Motocross83 3/23/2017 8:09am
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RG1 wrote:
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem...
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
Though I can of course see both sides of the argument, I'm forced to agree. We need to see the problem clearly for what it is, and that can only be done by knowing the details.

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peelout 3/23/2017 8:44am
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guy from Utah was one of the innocents killed. he was there with his wife celebrating their 25th anniversary and were supposed to come home the next day. sad.

i just don't get it, i never will
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guy from Utah was one of the innocents killed. he was there with his wife celebrating their 25th anniversary and were supposed to come home the...
guy from Utah was one of the innocents killed. he was there with his wife celebrating their 25th anniversary and were supposed to come home the next day. sad.

i just don't get it, i never will
i just don't get it, i never will

Pretty simple actually. People are evil, some more than others. Just don't discuss it here or you'll get clicked.
scott_nz 3/23/2017 10:18am
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huck wrote:
Yep. I wouldn't mention his name...let alone his whole history (which is what the media seems to do).
RG1 wrote:
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem...
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
UK Born, Career Criminal by the sounds, was this what you were thinking?
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I think it proves that police in the UK need to be armed in general and not limited to specific areas. When something like this happens it is good to have armed and well trained people to deal with it.

I do find it funny that the people in charge are protected by armed men with assualt rifles while telling the rest of us guns are bad.
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akillerwombat 3/23/2017 10:51am
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Barrett57 wrote:
I think it proves that police in the UK need to be armed in general and not limited to specific areas. When something like this happens...
I think it proves that police in the UK need to be armed in general and not limited to specific areas. When something like this happens it is good to have armed and well trained people to deal with it.

I do find it funny that the people in charge are protected by armed men with assualt rifles while telling the rest of us guns are bad.
Eh. The guy who did the most damage was in a car and I'm not sure how having more people with more guns would have stopped him from killing the number of people he did. And the guy with the knife was shot and killed after one attack.

As far as people in charge having protection that's because they have far more people who want to assassinate them vs murder you.
scott_nz 3/23/2017 11:00am
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Barrett57 wrote:
I think it proves that police in the UK need to be armed in general and not limited to specific areas. When something like this happens...
I think it proves that police in the UK need to be armed in general and not limited to specific areas. When something like this happens it is good to have armed and well trained people to deal with it.

I do find it funny that the people in charge are protected by armed men with assualt rifles while telling the rest of us guns are bad.
akillerwombat wrote:
Eh. The guy who did the most damage was in a car and I'm not sure how having more people with more guns would have stopped...
Eh. The guy who did the most damage was in a car and I'm not sure how having more people with more guns would have stopped him from killing the number of people he did. And the guy with the knife was shot and killed after one attack.

As far as people in charge having protection that's because they have far more people who want to assassinate them vs murder you.
BTW they were the same guy, but i agree with you on your point,
Andy_Greenney 3/23/2017 11:03am
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They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem...
They should mention exactly who he is, where he is from and his background. They won't though. People need to wake up to the real problem, Europe is a mess right now
He gets what he wants, those that want to use it as an excuse to generalise a billion people get what they want and the papers get to sell more copies....everyone's a winner. The circle goes round and round.

I would rather he remains a nobody, his reason for doing it is an irrelevance. Give me a double page spread of the heroes that helped thanks.
Andy_Greenney 3/23/2017 11:04am
3/23/2017 11:04am
On the police having guns note, we look to you guys for a good reason not to, and polls among police have shown on multiple occasions in general they do not wish to be armed.

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