How would Gasjer have done if he did ride A1?

SKlein
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1/12/2017 7:24am
mitchell 8 wrote:
Is should be though. Because the best of each country should be racing each other. Maybe if the top US riders did decide to man up...
Is should be though. Because the best of each country should be racing each other.

Maybe if the top US riders did decide to man up & race the GP's it would obtain that level of prestigious.

How can any serious race fan tell me they would rather see 5 top guys battle with each other wk in wk end, couple bad injuries before you know it its 3 top guys in one major series. (US NATS)

Or you could add the US guys to an already stacked MXGP & have super exciting racing each round guaranteed.

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Or they could continue to make more money by racing Supercross.
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1/12/2017 10:21am
The MXGP vs AMA debate is up there with Apple vs Windows, xbox vs playstation, iOS vs Android...
1/12/2017 12:10pm
mitchell 8 wrote:
Is should be though. Because the best of each country should be racing each other. Maybe if the top US riders did decide to man up...
Is should be though. Because the best of each country should be racing each other.

Maybe if the top US riders did decide to man up & race the GP's it would obtain that level of prestigious.

How can any serious race fan tell me they would rather see 5 top guys battle with each other wk in wk end, couple bad injuries before you know it its 3 top guys in one major series. (US NATS)

Or you could add the US guys to an already stacked MXGP & have super exciting racing each round guaranteed.

I

SKlein wrote:
Or they could continue to make more money by racing Supercross.
You think that's a good thing for our sport?
1/12/2017 12:15pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 12:15pm
NVA57 wrote:
The MXGP vs AMA debate is up there with Apple vs Windows, xbox vs playstation, iOS vs Android...
It's shouldn't be a debate. Top national riders should be competing internationally. The other nations have come along way, it's time America showed some bottle & got involved.

Schedules could be arranged so they could still ride SX.

Doesn't it bug you that your top guys stay local repeating the same old process.

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1/12/2017 12:18pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 12:18pm
RG1 wrote:
We'd have much less racing to watch, I don't like that
Why ? You would have a much more exciting national series, that no longer had elite riders dominating each wk end. Yawn.

Let the second tier riders fight for wins & develop confidence wouldnt be a bad thing.
1/12/2017 12:24pm
SKlein wrote:
Or they could continue to make more money by racing Supercross.
What kinda rationale is that? As a fan and customer, why would I care about that?

Besides, if sponsors and manufacturers decide they really want Americans in the GP series (and they should), they can work out the money. Villopoto didn't take a pay cut. He just made a half-hearted commitment.
1/12/2017 12:27pm
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There is no manning up necessary. There is a series that just started that has all the best riders in the world in a specific discipline...
There is no manning up necessary. There is a series that just started that has all the best riders in the world in a specific discipline of dirtbike racing. The riders and industry has chosen that to be #1.
I dont think all riders around the world would agree SX is the number one priority. It may make the most money, but it's not MX. It's just a show that can more easily be marketed to the masses.

IMO it's pretty sad when money is more important then first class racing. There was hardly a pass in the main.
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1/12/2017 12:29pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2017 12:36pm
mitchell 8 wrote:
Why ? You would have a much more exciting national series, that no longer had elite riders dominating each wk end. Yawn. Let the second tier...
Why ? You would have a much more exciting national series, that no longer had elite riders dominating each wk end. Yawn.

Let the second tier riders fight for wins & develop confidence wouldnt be a bad thing.
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1/12/2017 12:35pm
What kinda rationale is that? As a fan and customer, why would I care about that? Besides, if sponsors and manufacturers decide they really want Americans...
What kinda rationale is that? As a fan and customer, why would I care about that?

Besides, if sponsors and manufacturers decide they really want Americans in the GP series (and they should), they can work out the money. Villopoto didn't take a pay cut. He just made a half-hearted commitment.
You think the top riders/teams who are doing this to make a living are all going to collectively decide to step away from a better paying job to go and race GP's? I can't fathom why you think that's plausible. If it actually worked out that would be great, but I'm not going to waste my time waiting for it to happen.
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1/12/2017 1:24pm
RG1 wrote:
We'd have much less racing to watch, I don't like that
mitchell 8 wrote:
Why ? You would have a much more exciting national series, that no longer had elite riders dominating each wk end. Yawn. Let the second tier...
Why ? You would have a much more exciting national series, that no longer had elite riders dominating each wk end. Yawn.

Let the second tier riders fight for wins & develop confidence wouldnt be a bad thing.
Who's going to go to watch race when the top guys aren't in it. The top class in both series is probably as stacked as it ever has been, and that's awesome. We get like 50+ top quality events to watch every season, rather than 17 good ones and 30+ mediocre ones, how can that not be better. Also, there's not enough 450 rides in the GP's for the riders that are there now, so where all this talent from America is going to go when they come to GP's I have no idea
1/13/2017 1:47am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2017 1:53am
RG1 wrote:
Who's going to go to watch race when the top guys aren't in it. The top class in both series is probably as stacked as it...
Who's going to go to watch race when the top guys aren't in it. The top class in both series is probably as stacked as it ever has been, and that's awesome. We get like 50+ top quality events to watch every season, rather than 17 good ones and 30+ mediocre ones, how can that not be better. Also, there's not enough 450 rides in the GP's for the riders that are there now, so where all this talent from America is going to go when they come to GP's I have no idea
The factories could make it happen.

Think how much better 2 US GP would be if ET, RD & JA were contesting the series. Imagine the support at say Red Bud for example.

The US nats will be better if they left. Would open the door for fresh front runners. The racing were still be very strong.

The US nats is becoming a bit stale IMO. Realistcally you have 3 potential champs IMO. Roczen, Dungey & Tomac. Throw in a couple of injuries & you have a boring runaway series like last year.

How Roczen can believe he won the most prestigious series in the world in 2016 I have no idea.
1/13/2017 1:52am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2017 1:52am
SKlein wrote:
You think the top riders/teams who are doing this to make a living are all going to collectively decide to step away from a better paying...
You think the top riders/teams who are doing this to make a living are all going to collectively decide to step away from a better paying job to go and race GP's? I can't fathom why you think that's plausible. If it actually worked out that would be great, but I'm not going to waste my time waiting for it to happen.
Your making big assumptions.

If the top guys wanted it to happen the money would be there.

You have a big bike sales market in the states, I can see why the factories what superstars there, representing there brands.

But if you have top US guys leading a proper world series, the US GP could be the best supported event of the calendar. Could even have 2 events.

If the big brands realized the value of that then It would be big business.

It's time for change.

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