Help me design a track.

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TripleFive wrote:
This track is loosely based on Pontiac '97: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156017/s1200_track3.jpg[/img]
This track is loosely based on Pontiac '97:



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ga_pike 10/17/2016 9:46am
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One thing to consider is jumps don't have to be one direction only. If you build squares, they could act as tabletops in 4 directions. That opens the possibility of going both length wise and width wise on your track with sections that cross over each other. You can also use the sides of jumps as berms to save space. Don't limit yourself by not opening up the option of crossing over the track.
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Flip109 10/17/2016 10:15am
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Rowlands wrote:
Flip stick how did he get the dirt to make the jumps and berms? That place looks awesome fun
He literally dug it all up from where it's at. The land is up on a hill and it sort of slopes. So he just dug into it and pushed dirt up. He's got two dozers and at the time was a supervisor of a construction company. So he had one of his workers deliver a earth mover off one of the job sites he was working on. That helped a lot lol. He's always had a track tho. Since we were teens at another piece of property. He would throw parties and we'd ride till midnight. Then build a bonfire and drink all night. Lol good times!
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Brad460 10/17/2016 11:02am
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TripleFive wrote:
This track is loosely based on Pontiac '97: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156017/s1200_track3.jpg[/img]
This track is loosely based on Pontiac '97:



Took you three tries, but definetly this one.. Woohoo

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tprice07 10/17/2016 11:06am
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Flip109 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156008/s1200_IMG_2530.jpg[/img] This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.


This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.
Well doesn't that look like fun. What does your friend do for a living? I mean having a track under lights is pretty awesome.
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Flip109 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156008/s1200_IMG_2530.jpg[/img] This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.


This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.
tprice07 wrote:
Well doesn't that look like fun. What does your friend do for a living? I mean having a track under lights is pretty awesome.
He was a supervisor of some sort at a construction company in Austin. His dad owned an electrical and construction business. Hence the dozers and used lights and poles. The lights came from a old walmart parking lot and school I think that they tore down. He's also got a water trailer and stuff. It's nice. Lots of trails out on the property as well. He has another more traditional mx track he just finished up on another piece of property. Should be railing on that pretty soon!
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tprice07 10/17/2016 11:50am
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Flip109 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156008/s1200_IMG_2530.jpg[/img] This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.


This is at my friends house. It's bout that size I'd say. It's little but lots of fun.
tprice07 wrote:
Well doesn't that look like fun. What does your friend do for a living? I mean having a track under lights is pretty awesome.
Flip109 wrote:
He was a supervisor of some sort at a construction company in Austin. His dad owned an electrical and construction business. Hence the dozers and used...
He was a supervisor of some sort at a construction company in Austin. His dad owned an electrical and construction business. Hence the dozers and used lights and poles. The lights came from a old walmart parking lot and school I think that they tore down. He's also got a water trailer and stuff. It's nice. Lots of trails out on the property as well. He has another more traditional mx track he just finished up on another piece of property. Should be railing on that pretty soon!
Nice, we have farmland and an acreage that I grew up on. Always had a track there growing up. We had a backhoe and some sprayers for water. Now I live an hour away from there so it is hard to keep it maintained. Someday I'll have something like what your friend has. The lights are awesome! So jealous.
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Hammer 663s 10/17/2016 11:50am
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That's a little small for a track unless its a 50/65 track. I had 400x600 for mine, 6 lanes, and I almost never saw 4th gear. IMHO at minimum one needs 3 acres to build on, unless you just want to have an arenacross track, and that would get boring fast. I'd rework mine every Spring to change it up cause even with a 1:15 lap time it got old after the 1,000th lap. Smile

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Flip109 10/17/2016 11:57am
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Nice, we have farmland and an acreage that I grew up on. Always had a track there growing up. We had a backhoe and some sprayers...
Nice, we have farmland and an acreage that I grew up on. Always had a track there growing up. We had a backhoe and some sprayers for water. Now I live an hour away from there so it is hard to keep it maintained. Someday I'll have something like what your friend has. The lights are awesome! So jealous.
Yeah, its lots of work for him to keep up with it and prep it and stuff. When the cows get in there they go bananas and screw it all up! Laughing Sick
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Cygnus 10/17/2016 12:12pm
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Flip109 wrote:
Yeah, its lots of work for him to keep up with it and prep it and stuff. When the cows get in there they go bananas...
Yeah, its lots of work for him to keep up with it and prep it and stuff. When the cows get in there they go bananas and screw it all up! Laughing Sick
The damn cows on the range land next To my track got through the fence once right after I moved in and it's amazing how much they can fuck shit up. For some reason they love to be up on top of the jumps. Probably just for predator watching. The rancher came and got em and fixed the fence. Then one time he saw motorcycle tracks in the creek bed by the road and came and told me not to trespass on his rangeland(state owned) because the bikes will ruin the Vegetation. I just laughed and told him to GTFO.
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SmoothOperator 10/17/2016 12:49pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I used to run and build all the tracks at an indoor arenacross called HindsightMX. The track path on many of those track layouts may work...
I used to run and build all the tracks at an indoor arenacross called HindsightMX. The track path on many of those track layouts may work here. I'm not talking the jumps and so forth , but the path of the layout. You could do a 4 lane track pretty comfortably. Think of it as a mini Daytona track or something.
No kidding!? I rode there a few times. Fun place. I was actually envisioning some of those set ups while walking around the property.
SmoothOperator 10/17/2016 12:51pm
10/17/2016 12:51pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
Considering the lot being very narrow i think you should go out and look for some shipping containers or something like that and those could give...
Considering the lot being very narrow i think you should go out and look for some shipping containers or something like that and those could give you some over under options so you can switch the track up a little bit more


tprice07 wrote:
That's a sick idea. Personally, I would go through and let the area make the track for you. Rather than making arbitrary corners, go around the...
That's a sick idea.

Personally, I would go through and let the area make the track for you. Rather than making arbitrary corners, go around the natural flow of the timber. I put something down in the darker spots, where it looks like there are fewer trees...or at least fewer big trees.

It really sucks taking down big trees and removing stumps. You'll spend tons of time and money doing that vs building a suitable track that looks more natural.

I don't know the different elevations of the dirt, but you can cut that in in the same manner, moving less dirt is always better. I always dig down in parts of the track that I want the water to flow to then I have dirt to build up the areas I don't want to be swampy or for jumps/berms.

One of the designs above would be a little boring for me, I like a mix of turns. Also, if you really want some fun build the track in a way that you can reverse it easily. Flipping the lips of the jump is pretty easy if you built up the landings.



That's a killer design.
And the idea of container tunnels or 4 way table tops are great ideas too!
TripleFive 10/17/2016 12:58pm
10/17/2016 12:58pm
Some really good ideas being bounced around in here, guys. Keep 'em coming!
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Tracktor 10/17/2016 1:17pm
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I've built a few tracks for myself & others in the great NW. Best bet like mention before is clear the land and ride it a bit. Pulling fir stumps is a complete bitch without a large track hoe & it looks like you have a few. Other thing is drainage. With all the rain we get you need to think about being able to actually use the track for more than a few months out of the year. Also, the more extravagant you get the more maintenance it will need. I have a dozer and 4wd tractor for our 3/4 mile long outdoor SX track. If you keep it simpler it will be decent practice and not a full time job for upkeep......
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Katoomey 10/17/2016 2:19pm
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I'd take the area and make two long whoop sections (length ways) connected by two flat corners on one side, and on the other side I'd build a bunch of hardcore endurocross obstacles.

it wouldn't be a fun place to ride, but it would be good for practicing bike skills.
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Flip109 10/17/2016 2:50pm
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Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
[img]https://s10.postimg.org/98j5g862h/s1200_20161016_214031.jpg[/img]
My wife likes tracks like that!Shocked Laughing Laughing

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Flip109 10/17/2016 2:55pm
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Flip109 wrote:
Yeah, its lots of work for him to keep up with it and prep it and stuff. When the cows get in there they go bananas...
Yeah, its lots of work for him to keep up with it and prep it and stuff. When the cows get in there they go bananas and screw it all up! Laughing Sick
Cygnus wrote:
The damn cows on the range land next To my track got through the fence once right after I moved in and it's amazing how much...
The damn cows on the range land next To my track got through the fence once right after I moved in and it's amazing how much they can fuck shit up. For some reason they love to be up on top of the jumps. Probably just for predator watching. The rancher came and got em and fixed the fence. Then one time he saw motorcycle tracks in the creek bed by the road and came and told me not to trespass on his rangeland(state owned) because the bikes will ruin the Vegetation. I just laughed and told him to GTFO.
Yep they can turn jumps into bumps real quick! I guess cows have a king of the hill infatuation or something. Mooooooooove the fuck over its my hill! Laughing
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Midwest_Mafia 10/17/2016 2:56pm
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Hahahaha. Well that escalated quickly. Just do a winding track that fits between the tree's so you don't have to clear much, place a jump or two where there's room between, small whoop section and lots of corners to keep you feeling " busy " out there.
Kx125rider 10/17/2016 3:23pm
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Moens_Andy wrote:
Considering the lot being very narrow i think you should go out and look for some shipping containers or something like that and those could give...
Considering the lot being very narrow i think you should go out and look for some shipping containers or something like that and those could give you some over under options so you can switch the track up a little bit more


tprice07 wrote:
That's a sick idea. Personally, I would go through and let the area make the track for you. Rather than making arbitrary corners, go around the...
That's a sick idea.

Personally, I would go through and let the area make the track for you. Rather than making arbitrary corners, go around the natural flow of the timber. I put something down in the darker spots, where it looks like there are fewer trees...or at least fewer big trees.

It really sucks taking down big trees and removing stumps. You'll spend tons of time and money doing that vs building a suitable track that looks more natural.

I don't know the different elevations of the dirt, but you can cut that in in the same manner, moving less dirt is always better. I always dig down in parts of the track that I want the water to flow to then I have dirt to build up the areas I don't want to be swampy or for jumps/berms.

One of the designs above would be a little boring for me, I like a mix of turns. Also, if you really want some fun build the track in a way that you can reverse it easily. Flipping the lips of the jump is pretty easy if you built up the landings.



SmoothOperator wrote:
That's a killer design.
And the idea of container tunnels or 4 way table tops are great ideas too!
X2, great advice in tprice07, shipping containers would be sick too!
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Cygnus 10/17/2016 3:31pm
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TeamPumpin wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/17/156176/s1200_Untitled.jpg[/img]


I like the location of the food and drink vendors.
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connordoll21 10/17/2016 6:34pm
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I would try to make the track rideable in both directions so that way you have "2" tracks in one.
Moens_Andy 10/18/2016 2:14pm
10/18/2016 2:14pm
SMXcup track i know its lame but thats about the space you have Veltins arena is about
60 yards wide and 115 yards long
SmoothOperator 10/18/2016 2:20pm
10/18/2016 2:20pm
Pete The Fisherman wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/18/156243/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


I dig it!
SmoothOperator 10/18/2016 2:21pm
10/18/2016 2:21pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
SMXcup track i know its lame but thats about the space you have Veltins arena is about
60 yards wide and 115 yards long
That's a good size comparison.
Moens_Andy 10/18/2016 2:27pm
10/18/2016 2:27pm
If i knew how i could draw lines on a mac i would have made a design :D i can only make it on scale on paper i got a architect table :D

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