Simulation hypothesis ...

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex...

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex version of many 1010101010101010100001010101010010010100010101010100101100101010101. . .so on and so on.....that is, If the universe is truly infinitly vast. Then it is possible that a copy of yourself is doing the exact same thing you're doing right now, just a bizillion and 2000530874509283402938402938404398502938 light years away.

For instance: A gravel driveway has black, red and yellow stones. If you look for a combination of 3 of those stones touching each other you find them. If you look for the combo with 6 of them touching in a specific order you'll have to look a little longer until you find it, but its there. If you look for the combo with 12 it will take you a lot longer to find than 6...then look for 18 etc. then look for 36 and etc...look for 100 etc....

Now think of yourself as a combination of 560,000 stones. Look all over the univserse, it might take you forever ( much longer than we can possibly survive), but that combination of 560,000 stones (you) is out there and doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Typing and reading on vital in their own world. And since the universe is infinite, there is actually an infinite number of YOU(yourself) out there doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Infinitely Typing and infinitely reading on inifinite vital in your own infinite world(s).

Yep. Mind blown. I know....thanks for comin out, good night!

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex...

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex version of many 1010101010101010100001010101010010010100010101010100101100101010101. . .so on and so on.....that is, If the universe is truly infinitly vast. Then it is possible that a copy of yourself is doing the exact same thing you're doing right now, just a bizillion and 2000530874509283402938402938404398502938 light years away.

For instance: A gravel driveway has black, red and yellow stones. If you look for a combination of 3 of those stones touching each other you find them. If you look for the combo with 6 of them touching in a specific order you'll have to look a little longer until you find it, but its there. If you look for the combo with 12 it will take you a lot longer to find than 6...then look for 18 etc. then look for 36 and etc...look for 100 etc....

Now think of yourself as a combination of 560,000 stones. Look all over the univserse, it might take you forever ( much longer than we can possibly survive), but that combination of 560,000 stones (you) is out there and doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Typing and reading on vital in their own world. And since the universe is infinite, there is actually an infinite number of YOU(yourself) out there doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Infinitely Typing and infinitely reading on inifinite vital in your own infinite world(s).

Yep. Mind blown. I know....thanks for comin out, good night!

TXDirt wrote:

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit...

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit.

I agree with you though that in an infinite universe there is possibly infinite replicas and combinations of us.

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex...

Since we are breaking the universe down to basic 1's and 0's...then we should also be able to proportionately compare the universe as an insanely complex version of many 1010101010101010100001010101010010010100010101010100101100101010101. . .so on and so on.....that is, If the universe is truly infinitly vast. Then it is possible that a copy of yourself is doing the exact same thing you're doing right now, just a bizillion and 2000530874509283402938402938404398502938 light years away.

For instance: A gravel driveway has black, red and yellow stones. If you look for a combination of 3 of those stones touching each other you find them. If you look for the combo with 6 of them touching in a specific order you'll have to look a little longer until you find it, but its there. If you look for the combo with 12 it will take you a lot longer to find than 6...then look for 18 etc. then look for 36 and etc...look for 100 etc....

Now think of yourself as a combination of 560,000 stones. Look all over the univserse, it might take you forever ( much longer than we can possibly survive), but that combination of 560,000 stones (you) is out there and doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Typing and reading on vital in their own world. And since the universe is infinite, there is actually an infinite number of YOU(yourself) out there doing the exact same thing you're doing right now. Infinitely Typing and infinitely reading on inifinite vital in your own infinite world(s).

Yep. Mind blown. I know....thanks for comin out, good night!

TXDirt wrote:

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit...

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit.

I agree with you though that in an infinite universe there is possibly infinite replicas and combinations of us.

motoxracer723 wrote:

All very possible. We're semi-intelligent primates that just recently stopped throwing our poop at each other (although if you think about it, we still do this...

All very possible. We're semi-intelligent primates that just recently stopped throwing our poop at each other (although if you think about it, we still do this to each other, just in different ways).

For anyone to rule out the simulation theory, they have their head up their ass.

Like TXDirt said - the universe is such a large place, even with the viewpoint of our own galaxy it's unbelievably large. This is why I think our communal goal for humanity should be to spread out as quickly and as far as possible into space. It's the real frontier.

That is, unless we have a 'Truman show' like point running into the wall of our dome...

Back to the simulation idea - take into consideration the rate at which our tech/electronics and Virtual Reality is progressing. You're telling me that in 50 years we wouldn't OURSELVES be able to plug someone into a chair and have them live a perfect life- interacting with people, building relationships, accomplishing goals, etc and couldn't tell the difference? Barring major techno-strife, we're on that track way before 50 years IMO
So take a civilization that's even 1% more advanced than us and they would have capabilities to easily do this.

I'm all over the place with this post, but consider this point. There have been theories that (one) of the reasons we don't hear from or see extraterrestrials out in the cosmos is that, by the time a civilization reaches the point of super computers and ultra-real simulations, they basically just plug in 'Matrix-like' (without the machine overlord element) and live inside this perfect world they've created. Fuck boring space when you can have all the fun stuff inside your simulation.

Now go back to worrying about taxes, the president, and money... the things that 'REALLY' matter

motoxracer723 wrote:

All very possible. We're semi-intelligent primates that just recently stopped throwing our poop at each other (although if you think about it, we still do this...

All very possible. We're semi-intelligent primates that just recently stopped throwing our poop at each other (although if you think about it, we still do this to each other, just in different ways).

For anyone to rule out the simulation theory, they have their head up their ass.

Like TXDirt said - the universe is such a large place, even with the viewpoint of our own galaxy it's unbelievably large. This is why I think our communal goal for humanity should be to spread out as quickly and as far as possible into space. It's the real frontier.

That is, unless we have a 'Truman show' like point running into the wall of our dome...

Back to the simulation idea - take into consideration the rate at which our tech/electronics and Virtual Reality is progressing. You're telling me that in 50 years we wouldn't OURSELVES be able to plug someone into a chair and have them live a perfect life- interacting with people, building relationships, accomplishing goals, etc and couldn't tell the difference? Barring major techno-strife, we're on that track way before 50 years IMO
So take a civilization that's even 1% more advanced than us and they would have capabilities to easily do this.

I'm all over the place with this post, but consider this point. There have been theories that (one) of the reasons we don't hear from or see extraterrestrials out in the cosmos is that, by the time a civilization reaches the point of super computers and ultra-real simulations, they basically just plug in 'Matrix-like' (without the machine overlord element) and live inside this perfect world they've created. Fuck boring space when you can have all the fun stuff inside your simulation.

Now go back to worrying about taxes, the president, and money... the things that 'REALLY' matter

SF45 wrote:

Not in 50 years imo. Maybe 2 or 3 hundred. The simulation argument does make sense when you think about relativity, the big bang, the observer...

Not in 50 years imo. Maybe 2 or 3 hundred. The simulation argument does make sense when you think about relativity, the big bang, the observer in quantum mechanics and things like ESP.

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TXDirt wrote:

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit...

the traditional 0/1 binary can also be both 0 and 1 at the same time. This is where quantum physics comes into play. Pretty cool shit.

I agree with you though that in an infinite universe there is possibly infinite replicas and combinations of us.

Krallang wrote:

That's exactly what an infinite universe means, but in math terms a penal person like myself can comprehend that. Their is a version of you doing...

That's exactly what an infinite universe means, but in math terms a penal person like myself can comprehend that.

Their is a version of you doing the craziest, most nasty thing you can ever think of right now.

lestat wrote:

Ok , I initially thought that George was talking about the multiverse but after reading it again , it appears to be something else . It...

Ok , I initially thought that George was talking about the multiverse but after reading it again , it appears to be something else . It seems to be about replica universes existing within our own infinite universe ?

"For instance: A gravel driveway has black, red and yellow stones. If you look for a combination of 3 of those stones touching each other you find them. If you look for the combo with 6 of them touching in a specific order you'll have to look a little longer until you find it, but its there. If you look for the combo with 12 it will take you a lot longer to find than 6...then look for 18 etc. then look for 36 and etc...look for 100 etc....

Now think of yourself as a combination of 560,000 stones. Look all over the univserse, it might take you forever ( much longer than we can possibly survive), but that combination of 560,000 stones (you) is out there"

This makes sense the way you have laid it out , but to me it only makes sense if we assume there are a finite amount of colors , that stones come in . Why would we make that assumption ? If we assume the opposite , that there are an infinite amount of colors then there would be an infinite amount of configurations . So we could travel along the road and find things that are similar to you , but not exactly you , IMO of course . Not trying to bust your balls George , I just like thinking about these things .

cool thread , cheers guys .