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Can Febvre beat Gasjer next year? I don't wanna hear about Herlings. We know he'll win, don't we.

But Romain and Tim had a few moments but didn't really face off did they? AC and Tim seemed to have some good races.

What does Febvre have to do? Good to watch the both of them, hope it is a long standing rivalry, GPs could be entering a little bit of a golden era hopefully... if they battle Herlings and the 250s should be a battle now he's out.
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Andy_Greenney 9/5/2016 5:59am
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Think Tim will get stronger over the winter, hopefully he can stay injury free and keep the ball rolling, I don't see anyone beating him. Saw him at Matterley and looked so comfortable on the bike, noticeably more than the others, but then it's always easy when everything is 'clicking'
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TMV 9/5/2016 6:02am
9/5/2016 6:02am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2016 6:16am
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Can Febvre beat Gasjer next year? I don't wanna hear about Herlings. We know he'll win, don't we. But Romain and Tim had a few moments...
Can Febvre beat Gasjer next year? I don't wanna hear about Herlings. We know he'll win, don't we.

But Romain and Tim had a few moments but didn't really face off did they? AC and Tim seemed to have some good races.

What does Febvre have to do? Good to watch the both of them, hope it is a long standing rivalry, GPs could be entering a little bit of a golden era hopefully... if they battle Herlings and the 250s should be a battle now he's out.
He has to find his confidence back but no, I don't think he will beat Tim. To me, Tim has a little something Romain doesn't have just like Jeffrey has that little something that only a few have.
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themrtoad 9/5/2016 6:10am
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Everyone will start with a blanc paper next year again, but they still have positioned themselves sort of. Both Gajser and Febvre knows very well that Cairoli is not unbeatable. I would even say Cairoli is the underdog.

Herlings might still have a mental edge over Gajser and Febvre since their days in MX2, but they are different riders today compared to then. The first couple of races will determine the order between those three. Like Andy stated above it's always easy when everything is clicking.

2016 it stopped clicking for Febvre at Matterley, can he turn it on again? Riders rarely have perfect seasons one after another in such a dangerous sport. If Gajser can keep out of trouble I think he and Herlings will run a pace too high for the rest. They are all technically gifted but they are in a league of their own.

I hope Desalle and Nagl can keep up with them but I don't believe they will on regular basis.

My guess is Gajser/Herlings 10 sec drop Febvre/Cairoli 10 sec drop Desalle/Nagl.
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Crush 9/5/2016 6:13am
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I kinda feel like Febvre a few times this year was in a position where he had a bad start and had to go all out to get to Tim, maybe his starts were better last year or maybe he didn't have someone like Tim pushing so hard early...

I think he can match it but no doubt Gasjer was spooky, I didn't think he'd make the season riding like he does sometimes.

I really hope it's the start of a classic era, GPs have been a little fucked for a while in both classes with Herlings and AC.

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DeStouwer 9/5/2016 6:14am
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If Febvre gets his groove back, he will beat him for sure a few times. All I wonder, with all the (sometimes serious) crashes Gajser has had over the season, how long will this last? At one point the luck runs out. Ofcourse I hope not, and Gajser will probably indeed get stronger over the winter if he doesn't get injured.

With Herlings thrown into the mix, Desalle who can hopefully start and end the season unharmed, Nagl who can win on any day, Anstie and Tonkov coming over to mingle into the top ten, Tixier and Guillod who have a year experience in MXGP, Van Horebeek, Bobryshev, Paulin and Coldenhoff who can fight for wins/podia on good days, Simpson who can be a podium contender in the sand,... 2017 could be a hell of a season.

Oh, and I hope Cairoli can shine one last time.
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themrtoad 9/5/2016 6:17am
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If Febvre gets his groove back, he will beat him for sure a few times. All I wonder, with all the (sometimes serious) crashes Gajser has...
If Febvre gets his groove back, he will beat him for sure a few times. All I wonder, with all the (sometimes serious) crashes Gajser has had over the season, how long will this last? At one point the luck runs out. Ofcourse I hope not, and Gajser will probably indeed get stronger over the winter if he doesn't get injured.

With Herlings thrown into the mix, Desalle who can hopefully start and end the season unharmed, Nagl who can win on any day, Anstie and Tonkov coming over to mingle into the top ten, Tixier and Guillod who have a year experience in MXGP, Van Horebeek, Bobryshev, Paulin and Coldenhoff who can fight for wins/podia on good days, Simpson who can be a podium contender in the sand,... 2017 could be a hell of a season.

Oh, and I hope Cairoli can shine one last time.
Do you believe he can shine one last time?
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Thelen20 9/5/2016 6:20am
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Crush wrote:
Can Febvre beat Gasjer next year? I don't wanna hear about Herlings. We know he'll win, don't we. But Romain and Tim had a few moments...
Can Febvre beat Gasjer next year? I don't wanna hear about Herlings. We know he'll win, don't we.

But Romain and Tim had a few moments but didn't really face off did they? AC and Tim seemed to have some good races.

What does Febvre have to do? Good to watch the both of them, hope it is a long standing rivalry, GPs could be entering a little bit of a golden era hopefully... if they battle Herlings and the 250s should be a battle now he's out.
I will have to do some digging but they did go head to head one specific time this season that I can remember. And it was awesome! It was moto 1 and tim held off febvre if I remember right . . .

Found it, this is the moto I was thinking off, Gajser held off febvre for the moto win by .6 of a second

https://youtu.be/w3V7qY4YWjc

Let's hope they battle each other more in the future
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DeStouwer 9/5/2016 6:26am
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If Febvre gets his groove back, he will beat him for sure a few times. All I wonder, with all the (sometimes serious) crashes Gajser has...
If Febvre gets his groove back, he will beat him for sure a few times. All I wonder, with all the (sometimes serious) crashes Gajser has had over the season, how long will this last? At one point the luck runs out. Ofcourse I hope not, and Gajser will probably indeed get stronger over the winter if he doesn't get injured.

With Herlings thrown into the mix, Desalle who can hopefully start and end the season unharmed, Nagl who can win on any day, Anstie and Tonkov coming over to mingle into the top ten, Tixier and Guillod who have a year experience in MXGP, Van Horebeek, Bobryshev, Paulin and Coldenhoff who can fight for wins/podia on good days, Simpson who can be a podium contender in the sand,... 2017 could be a hell of a season.

Oh, and I hope Cairoli can shine one last time.
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Do you believe he can shine one last time?
Hmmm, difficult. A whole season could be a little too much I guess. I do believe he can still win GP's, but his ''bad days'' from the past have become really bad days lately. I think a title is a little too far fetched. Too bad, I really think he deserves it.
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Park Boys 9/5/2016 6:42am
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Febvre needs to smooth his riding style a touch, he gives you more oh shit moments than anyone since Stewart and it bit him hard this year.
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RG1 9/5/2016 6:46am
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I feel like Gajser is the better rider out of the two. But what Febvre lacks in technique he certainly makes up in desire. When they are both at their best there is not much to separate them, but I think Gajser's skills make it easier for him to be at his best on a more consistent basis. When you watch Gajser ride, it looks like it all comes so naturally to him. Whereas I think Febvre has to ride so hard to be at that pace and it makes him more prone to mistakes. Just my opinion
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Eurobrah 9/5/2016 6:46am
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I think Gajser will be the man to beat next year, no matter if Jeffrey is in the class or not. He has two back to back "surprise" championships in his pocket, and he is confident as hell. Febvre is going to be solid if he gets it together during the winter. Still rooting for JH, tho... Laughing
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USMCMXer 9/5/2016 6:59am
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I think MXGP will have many great battles, with a healthy Herlings being victorious. The others need to stop him early and get him to make costly errors to have a chance, if you ask me?

My question is who is going to win MX2? That class seems low on a clear-cut winner. Seewer was good, Anstie when he felt like it, but no one consistently showed championship material? Does Prado have the chops to step up? I don't see any of the current American kids there putting a c-ship together either.
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RG1 9/5/2016 7:03am
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USMCMXer wrote:
I think MXGP will have many great battles, with a healthy Herlings being victorious. The others need to stop him early and get him to make...
I think MXGP will have many great battles, with a healthy Herlings being victorious. The others need to stop him early and get him to make costly errors to have a chance, if you ask me?

My question is who is going to win MX2? That class seems low on a clear-cut winner. Seewer was good, Anstie when he felt like it, but no one consistently showed championship material? Does Prado have the chops to step up? I don't see any of the current American kids there putting a c-ship together either.
MX2 is a bit of a lottery to be honest. But Seewer surely has to be the favourite with Herlings, Ferrandis, Anstie and Tonkov all leaving the class
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Fearo 9/5/2016 7:17am
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That's a hard question to answer. We don't know if 2015 was a fluke or if Febvre will get back to that level. What I'm most interested in, is what sort of consistency we are going to see next year from the top guys. Herlings, Febvre and now Cairoli seem injury prone, while Gajser may not be injured a lot, but has had some of the scariest crashes I've ever seen.
Andy_Greenney 9/5/2016 8:30am
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It's hard to write off AC222 but I really don't think he will be able to match the young guns over a season. The odd moto or even overall victory.....but I really hope I'm wrong.
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Park Boys 9/5/2016 8:34am
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It's hard to write off AC222 but I really don't think he will be able to match the young guns over a season. The odd moto...
It's hard to write off AC222 but I really don't think he will be able to match the young guns over a season. The odd moto or even overall victory.....but I really hope I'm wrong.
He reminds of Reed from a few years back, when he is feeling it he will go for a win otherwise he won't push when not feeling it. That won't work anymore, back in the day 3rd was his bad race now he gets finishes outside of top 5 to much.
EnvyMedia 9/5/2016 8:40am
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Febvre will have a little benefit on the slick track I believe. Gajser looks to have a little but more raw speed.

They are both very fast of course, but they also crash (or tip over) a lot. If you look back, there weren't that many races where either of them didn't have a small crash or tip over.

Gajser looks so fast but also so out of control at times. If Febvre can stay consistent next year I think he may have an edge over Gajser.

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Firstly they all need a good winter.

Then:
Gajser needs to stay off the ground (I think he will, being more experienced)
Febvre needs starts (Yami has some homework)
Cairoli needs 0.3 a lap (with KTM it is possible to find it)
Herlings needs to keep his cool

TBH Herlings and Gajser should dominate, but it could be a hell of a battle.
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brimx153 9/5/2016 10:07am
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How dare you call us Euro s i am highly offended lol Tongue . Em, hate to say it .But i think Herrlings will kill everyone next year . I think he has'nt rode well at all since he came back especiall last week in assen , he was terrible imo. Alot better this week but not the same as usual . ps. i hate Herrlings ,
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SlowMoFo 9/5/2016 10:19am
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I am looking forward to see all the other riders moving up also, there might be some surprises!
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SJK 9/5/2016 12:15pm
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Could it be again that last years MX2 champion takes MXGP championship?
TripleDigit 9/5/2016 1:35pm
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Febvre really back to his best along with 2 years experience in MXGP can challenge Gaijser but he simply can't keep giving away such an advantage at the start.

Personally I think Herlings will be too much for them but Tonkov will be the surprise rider of 2017 and will be mixing it with AC,Nagl,Paulin,Bobby,Van Holbeck, Desalle etc
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Definitely a changing of the guard. I expect one or two of the older riders will announce their retirement over the break and a bunch more next year when the pace a front steps up another level with JH thrown in the mix
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mark1960 9/5/2016 2:20pm
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As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP.

The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience and lack of respect to our cultures when you abreiviate it.

Sir, in future if you feel need to abreiviate please use "wog" " pommie" or " spicko" or just make up another word!
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mark1960 wrote:
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP. The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience...
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP.

The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience and lack of respect to our cultures when you abreiviate it.

Sir, in future if you feel need to abreiviate please use "wog" " pommie" or " spicko" or just make up another word!
lol
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Crush 9/5/2016 6:25pm
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mark1960 wrote:
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP. The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience...
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP.

The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience and lack of respect to our cultures when you abreiviate it.

Sir, in future if you feel need to abreiviate please use "wog" " pommie" or " spicko" or just make up another word!
brimx153 wrote:
lol
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Flip109 9/5/2016 6:26pm
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Gajser is good enough to beat RF and JH 50% of the time. The other half of the time just take 2nd or 3rd and collect points. History tells us both the others will crash and burn at some point. Basically Gajser could become the MXGP Dungey! Silly
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51xc 9/5/2016 7:18pm
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if gajser survives the couple sx races that he's apparently doing in '17 then obviously he will be the man to beat. he'll be on a new bike so we have to see with that but febvre has to step it up in my opinion, especially his starts. febvre is exceptional in his late race charges but I think he has to change his strategy to beat gajser.
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mark1960 wrote:
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP. The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience...
As from European decent i am quite offended by the title of this topic OP.

The word "Euro" is shortened from European which shows your impatience and lack of respect to our cultures when you abreiviate it.

Sir, in future if you feel need to abreiviate please use "wog" " pommie" or " spicko" or just make up another word!
brimx153 wrote:
lol
Crush wrote:
hahaha
If this is a Japanese joke, then it's a painfully stupid one.

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