Which road bike for Cross-training?

6/1/2016 9:12pm
Look into a Raleigh Willard, Specialzied Diverge or something similar in the adventure category. Coming from MX, I like being able to ride beyond the pavement and get dirty. My "road" bike has 41mm tires and gets me through the river trails around here. Tons of fun.
6/1/2016 9:26pm Edited Date/Time 6/1/2016 9:27pm

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Don't know much about cycling but these sure are cool!
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just another thing to consider. if you really want to use it for training, set some money aside for a powermeter. a second hand one will do just fine. a powermeter will do more to your training than any carbon part on your bike.

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51xc wrote:
just another thing to consider. if you really want to use it for training, set some money aside for a powermeter. a second hand one will...
just another thing to consider. if you really want to use it for training, set some money aside for a powermeter. a second hand one will do just fine. a powermeter will do more to your training than any carbon part on your bike.
Is that the same as the speedzone meters that specialized sells? That roubiax comes with one. I also already have a garmin GPS smartwatch with HR monitor I was using for moto's before
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Well it happened faster than I was wanting it to, but the guy that had the Roubaix was coming down to Atlanta from NC and offered to bring the bike so I said okay....I am not to be trusted with hard cash.

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Well it happened faster than I was wanting it to, but the guy that had the Roubaix was coming down to Atlanta from NC and offered...
Well it happened faster than I was wanting it to, but the guy that had the Roubaix was coming down to Atlanta from NC and offered to bring the bike so I said okay....I am not to be trusted with hard cash.

Congrats man. It'll be a good bike.

To answer your multi tool question, I carry something mostly comparable to this. TBH though, I've never needed the multi tool on the road bike. I use it about every time I go out on the mtn bike on the damn disc brakes. For some reason, when you take the front wheel off the bike and drop it right back in, it seems to sit in slightly different every time causing the brake to rub so I have to re-align the caliper with the disc it seems. Drives me nuts.

http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1179705_-1_400…

I also carry a spare tube and sometimes two with an actual pump rather than the CO2 inflation thing. That's purely personal preference. Popping tubes on the trail is a PITA but it'll happen every so often. Depending on what distance you're going, sometimes can lighten your load. For example if you're keeping it in the 10-20 mile range mostly, one tube is plenty, but if I do a longer ride I'll throw two in. I also run two water bottles.
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51xc wrote:
just another thing to consider. if you really want to use it for training, set some money aside for a powermeter. a second hand one will...
just another thing to consider. if you really want to use it for training, set some money aside for a powermeter. a second hand one will do just fine. a powermeter will do more to your training than any carbon part on your bike.
Charper732 wrote:
Is that the same as the speedzone meters that specialized sells? That roubiax comes with one. I also already have a garmin GPS smartwatch with HR...
Is that the same as the speedzone meters that specialized sells? That roubiax comes with one. I also already have a garmin GPS smartwatch with HR monitor I was using for moto's before
it's something different. however, your bike computer may be compatible with a powermeter. so you may can save the garmin head unit and just need to buy the actual powermeter which usually (the affordable ones) comes in form of a crank, pedal or hub. very popular are the 'stages' powermeters due to their low price point.

definitely use your heart rate monitor until you have a powermeter (if you should decide to buy one. buy one!Grinning ). it will give you at least some indication how hard you are pushing and especially for recovery.

on a long ride always take spare tubes, multi tool, pump and food with you. around about 60g-80g of carbohydrates per hour is what you should eat otherwise longer rides will end very quick and sudden for you. we all been their. and stay hydrated!!!

congrats on the bike. definitely a good buy for where you at.
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Not sure if road would be better as you mend from the injury, but I just did my first gravel bike race here in the TX hill country and I'm converted! Check this thing out: https://www.ridley-bikes.com/us/en/bikes/allroad/x-trail and also the Cannondale Slate looks good.

Thing about gravel bikes is, you can still ride them on the road, but they're perfect for going on smooth off roads where there are no cars and better scenery.

Also, I bought a Fuji SST 2.0 and I love it, but something I've just become privy to is, when you buy from one of the primary companies or boutiques, the gearing, chain, shifting -- all that works in unison, whereas with Fuji and some of the more cost cutting brands, they use different mfgs for some of these parts, not just Shimano for example, and shifting can suffer as a result.



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6/2/2016 9:44am Edited Date/Time 6/2/2016 9:45am
Charper732 wrote:
Well it happened faster than I was wanting it to, but the guy that had the Roubaix was coming down to Atlanta from NC and offered...
Well it happened faster than I was wanting it to, but the guy that had the Roubaix was coming down to Atlanta from NC and offered to bring the bike so I said okay....I am not to be trusted with hard cash.

Great choice.
I am on my third season riding a Roubaix SL4, after a decade riding an old Specialized Allez E5 S Sworks. Mine came with Ultegra 11 spd shifters and derailleurs but the FSA crank, Axis 2.0 brakes, and Fulcrum 6 wheelset. I have upgraded to full Ultegra all around, for pennies on the dollar bt trolling ebay and craigslist. AND a racer friend sold me some sick Fuclrum Racing Zero wheels for short money, those are made by Campy.

This bike is perfect for me. I ride on a lot of rural roads in not the greatest condition. I'm no racer, but comfortably within your typical 'B group' shop ride pace. The Roubaix used to be pretty cushy, but it has gotten increasingly stiff and now it basically rides like a Tarmac with a taller head tube, if a bit slower turning and more stable.

Some people find it too harsh without the the CG-R seatpost, which I don't have and neither do you. They are pussies; it is fjust fine.

Enjoy the bike and ride the fuckin wheels off it; I know I do.

The only I would consider replacing my with is an Independent Fabrications Ti Crown Jewel. But that's 5x the price for a bike with lots of 'scene points' and arguably not objectively better.
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Congrats and welcome to cycling!

I have my race bike
and my Roubaix


The Roubaix is an awesome bike. Actually my daily commuter but it can run with the best of carbon bikes. My only recommendation is dropping the stem a bit lower on the fork. Made my Roubaix corner considerably better.
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check out the gt grade if you are interested in gravel bikes. have a few friends that have one and love it. perfect on gravel, very...
check out the gt grade if you are interested in gravel bikes. have a few friends that have one and love it.

perfect on gravel, very road-able

http://www.gtbicycles.com/usa_en/gorogue/



that's pretty slick
6/2/2016 11:10am
Any Garmin that is compatible with a cadence and speed sensor will make your training that much more fun. If you don't want to drop the $$ on that, get a simple Cat Eye with chord (about $40) and use that for speed/distance, etc.
Many options, just depends on your bank account.

A fun workout is find a route of "xx" miles. Get your average speed.
Then your next workout, do exact same route and see if you can beat that avg speed.
My garmin 920xt has a feature where I can race my ghost. Fun to use every once in a while.

Power meter - great tool, but very expensive.
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Any Garmin that is compatible with a cadence and speed sensor will make your training that much more fun. If you don't want to drop the...
Any Garmin that is compatible with a cadence and speed sensor will make your training that much more fun. If you don't want to drop the $$ on that, get a simple Cat Eye with chord (about $40) and use that for speed/distance, etc.
Many options, just depends on your bank account.

A fun workout is find a route of "xx" miles. Get your average speed.
Then your next workout, do exact same route and see if you can beat that avg speed.
My garmin 920xt has a feature where I can race my ghost. Fun to use every once in a while.

Power meter - great tool, but very expensive.
You can do all that and more for free with strava.
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Charper732 wrote:
There is some really great info in this thread. What are you guys using for a multitool and what else do you take with you on...
There is some really great info in this thread.

What are you guys using for a multitool and what else do you take with you on a ride?
I have a Park Tool multi I carry...but haven't used it since I got my bike adjusted to feeling perfect. Maintenance happens at home where I have tools...but it's still smart to carry one.
I carry a tube or two (even though I run tubeless) and two large CO2 cartridges.
Best tire lever I've used are these from Prestalever and I carry two of 'em.
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Best set up I've found to work, don't care for the bags hanging off the back, but need a few things since I do some solo rides, spare tube, small multi tool, I'd, debt card, small piece of folded duct tape, band aid, tire tools, co2, all banded together in a cozie, fits perfectly in my jersey pocket.



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My Current setup is a felt z100. Carbon fiber fork aluminum frame. Paid $840 for it. I bought the Fiance a Marin. Paid $710 for it. She still using platforms but I got a set of Shimano clipless for her. Just make sure you're getting a fairly decent bike with your shifters and brakes all in one. I've got Claris components. Entry level. Everyone says their shit. I don't mind them because it's all I've known they shift fine for me. But then I've never ridden durace or else I'd probably say yea they're shit.

Get fitted. Go into a shop. Test ride a few. I try not to ride the really nice shit because then I don't know what im missing. that being said fir what I'm doing cross training I love this bike. And on cool down days I go out with my fiancé and it's fun for both of us. I like to ride 20-40 miles on one set. If I'm in a group I've done a couple 60 milers. But I need more leg muscle.

Also recommend vittoria shoes. Ventilate nice.





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6/3/2016 4:19am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2016 4:33am
The Sneak wrote:
Great choice. I am on my third season riding a Roubaix SL4, after a decade riding an old Specialized Allez E5 S Sworks. Mine came with...
Great choice.
I am on my third season riding a Roubaix SL4, after a decade riding an old Specialized Allez E5 S Sworks. Mine came with Ultegra 11 spd shifters and derailleurs but the FSA crank, Axis 2.0 brakes, and Fulcrum 6 wheelset. I have upgraded to full Ultegra all around, for pennies on the dollar bt trolling ebay and craigslist. AND a racer friend sold me some sick Fuclrum Racing Zero wheels for short money, those are made by Campy.

This bike is perfect for me. I ride on a lot of rural roads in not the greatest condition. I'm no racer, but comfortably within your typical 'B group' shop ride pace. The Roubaix used to be pretty cushy, but it has gotten increasingly stiff and now it basically rides like a Tarmac with a taller head tube, if a bit slower turning and more stable.

Some people find it too harsh without the the CG-R seatpost, which I don't have and neither do you. They are pussies; it is fjust fine.

Enjoy the bike and ride the fuckin wheels off it; I know I do.

The only I would consider replacing my with is an Independent Fabrications Ti Crown Jewel. But that's 5x the price for a bike with lots of 'scene points' and arguably not objectively better.
hahaha, the CG-R comment made me laugh. I've had at least 3 people tell me I need to get the post. I'll ride the bike before I decide for that.

First on my list are pedals, getting fitted for the bike, and swapping the brake cables.

I'm still trying to understand the order/grade of all the components. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the levers/plastic housing above them. It feels cheap as hell.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/06/02/137636/s1200_image.jpg[/img] My Current setup is a felt z100. Carbon fiber fork aluminum frame. Paid $840 for it. I bought the Fiance a Marin. Paid $710 for...



My Current setup is a felt z100. Carbon fiber fork aluminum frame. Paid $840 for it. I bought the Fiance a Marin. Paid $710 for it. She still using platforms but I got a set of Shimano clipless for her. Just make sure you're getting a fairly decent bike with your shifters and brakes all in one. I've got Claris components. Entry level. Everyone says their shit. I don't mind them because it's all I've known they shift fine for me. But then I've never ridden durace or else I'd probably say yea they're shit.

Get fitted. Go into a shop. Test ride a few. I try not to ride the really nice shit because then I don't know what im missing. that being said fir what I'm doing cross training I love this bike. And on cool down days I go out with my fiancé and it's fun for both of us. I like to ride 20-40 miles on one set. If I'm in a group I've done a couple 60 milers. But I need more leg muscle.

Also recommend vittoria shoes. Ventilate nice.





Those shoes look slick as hell! I've stopped at a couple different shops trying on shoes. Most shops around me don't carry a very large selection and the lower end of brands, especially bontrager, the tongue digs into my ankle....the hunt continues.

I'd like to try on some sidi if I could ever find them....cause ya know...moto discountSmile
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6/3/2016 4:41am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2016 4:41am
Also, now that I just got a bike my girlfriend is wanting a bike also. I came across a pretty decent Specialized dolce that is her size.

For any of you that know much about this bike, is this a decent deal? "$600 specialized dolce elite, 2014, less than 1000 miles. Dt Swiss wheels, specialized computer, look pedals. Shimano tiagra." The bike looks super clean in the pictures

I attempted to jew em down to $500 but they wanted to put the stock wheels back on and take the computer off...Which doesn't really bother me, but wanted some outside opinions.


6/3/2016 7:11am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2016 7:16am
600 hell yea. I'd buy it. Tiagara components are nicer. Smoother shifting. Offer $550 in person after you point out a few minisucule scratches. Lol. if they say no shell out $600 and take her home. Ask him to keep the saddle bag and light under the seat as well.


My next bike will be a full carbon. But again for right now I'm not crazy serious about it. But man is it addicting AF when you're on group rides.
6/3/2016 7:48am


Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/06/03/137685/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else


Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else
Dude that thing is SICK! I don't even want to know the price tag though
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I rode mine for the first time yesterday. I had ordered some shorts but they have yet to come in. Needless to say, my taint hurts...

After the injury I haven't had my heart rate up in over 2 months. I went 5 miles and felt like death. lol

I talked to a few bike shops to see about getting fitted to the bike. The price ranges were all over the place..from 300-150 and some even cheaper.
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I rode mine for the first time yesterday. I had ordered some shorts but they have yet to come in. Needless to say, my taint hurts...
I rode mine for the first time yesterday. I had ordered some shorts but they have yet to come in. Needless to say, my taint hurts...

After the injury I haven't had my heart rate up in over 2 months. I went 5 miles and felt like death. lol

I talked to a few bike shops to see about getting fitted to the bike. The price ranges were all over the place..from 300-150 and some even cheaper.
Get a seat that has the cutout. . . You won't regret it. And it can save you from some. . . medical conditions.

Selle SMP is a very popular seat that relieves pressure to the nerves that matter down there.

Read this for some perineum nerve education before you regret not doing it.
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6/6/2016 7:38pm Edited Date/Time 6/6/2016 7:47pm
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Get a seat that has the cutout. . . You won't regret it. And it can save you from some. . . medical conditions. Selle SMP...
Get a seat that has the cutout. . . You won't regret it. And it can save you from some. . . medical conditions.

Selle SMP is a very popular seat that relieves pressure to the nerves that matter down there.

Read this for some perineum nerve education before you regret not doing it.
right on, thanks for the tip. That was a good read and gives me quite a bit of confidence in the SMP as it's not like it was a paid advertisement. The couple shops I stopped at didn't have much of a seat selection. Hopefully I can find a shop that does so I can try a few out. That Selle SMP seat is pretty cheap on amazon..$56
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/06/03/137685/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else


Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else
$12,900... Ughhh...
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/06/03/137685/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else


Specialized S-Works Venge Vias! Fast, smooth, rigid with ceramic bearings and electronic shifting. Best bike I have ever had and won't ride anything else
ML512 wrote:
$12,900... Ughhh...
#procontractpayday

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