Why was Alessi moved to 15th in "official" results?

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I run a fantasy SX league with a group of friends. One of our bonus picks is for 15th place, at the end of the race the results on the broadcast had Mike Alessi in 13th and Justin Bogle in 15th. However, in the official results it lists Bogle in 14th and Alessi in 15th.

Don't want to start a "let's bash Alessi" thread, because I like the guy, just curious as to what happened and haven't been able to find anything.

It did make a difference in the 2nd place standings in our league, and in fact our results came down to the pass Reed put on Baggett on the last lap.
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tmx860 5/9/2016 11:18am
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Did your league have a Chase format?
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NotCore 5/9/2016 11:31am
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To my knowledge, FIM / AMA never put out an official press release on Dungey's penalty either. We read on here and RacerX an interview, but no formal direct statement. If the FIM / AMA is going to change the preliminary results in the official results, they should at least publish the reasons in a conspicuous, direct way, such as a widely released press statement.
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peelout 5/9/2016 11:43am
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Reed passing Bagget screwed me out of getting out of last place in my league

fuckin' Reed (even though i'm stoked about his finish i'm pissed about staying in last place)
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Hudd_421 5/9/2016 12:13pm
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I'm surprised no one is talking about this...

I was at the race, and I watched both Mike Alessi and Vince Friese refuse to pull out of the racing line. Mike held up Alessi for 2 laps even with the AMA officials waving the blue flag frantically. Mike had many times to simply just move over for a moment (after the finish, down Monster Alley, yet would not. Tomac actually tried to park Alessi in the corner before the whoops, and forced Mike to roll around the whoops (Ala his brother) and threw up his hands as if he had no idea why Eli was being aggressive. Mike held up other riders as well but was particularly bad with Eli.

After the race, an AMA official ran over to Mike and they had a yelling match for a few minutes. I hate to be on the bandwaggon hate train, as I think Mike is a nice guy, but this year (in Boston and now Vegas) him and his bonehead teammate aren't helping their case. I was pulling my hair out watching this all happen.


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toolie 5/9/2016 12:32pm
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Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
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GuyB 5/9/2016 4:40pm
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That looks official to me. Thanks, toolie.
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Utrider 5/9/2016 4:42pm
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Thanks for sharing the info, I agree there should be some kind of statement in the results.

Peely,...................I'm the one who got the benefit of Reed passing Bagget in our league, so I was pretty cool with it! Smile
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ML512 5/9/2016 4:42pm
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
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Utrider 5/9/2016 4:44pm
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And no TMX860, we did not have a chase format.........I have a tough enough time keeping up with "changing" results as it is!
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
This is why I don't like the way they carry themselves over there.

They always play possum, shrug their shoulders and say "what did I do? I don't know! It wasn't me, what?!" but there is no possible way you can cheat, do dodgy shit so many times and not know.

At least own it!
scott_nz 5/9/2016 6:18pm
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
ML512 wrote:
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
saw that on the broadcast, would have been interesting to know how much time he has to pull out of jumping,
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NotCore 5/9/2016 6:22pm
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
ML512 wrote:
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
I did in multiple threads. ; )

Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous!



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NotCore 5/9/2016 6:23pm
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Oh, and don't know who toolie is, but that's anything but official!
Sr_Vet_Rider 5/9/2016 6:33pm
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
I thought I saw Friese riding next to the whoops on the broadcast, but not sure that he passed anyone.
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NotCore wrote:
Oh, and don't know who toolie is, but that's anything but official!
He doesn't speak with a forked tongue, it's official.
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toolie 5/13/2016 8:08am
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toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
ML512 wrote:
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
NotCore wrote:
I did in multiple threads. ; ) Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/09/134607/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I did in multiple threads. ; )

Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous!





He is accelerating and committed for the jump as the light comes on. If you watch the video the light is not on in the frame before you shot your pic.
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EEE299 5/13/2016 8:44am
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ML512 wrote:
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
NotCore wrote:
I did in multiple threads. ; ) Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/09/134607/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I did in multiple threads. ; )

Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous!



toolie wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/13/134992/s1200_IMG_4665.jpg[/img] He is accelerating and committed for the jump as the light comes on. If you watch the video the light is not on in the...


He is accelerating and committed for the jump as the light comes on. If you watch the video the light is not on in the frame before you shot your pic.
It can be a grey area. I didn't see this incident but I know it has to be hard to look for those lights while racing.
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zehn 5/13/2016 5:43pm
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NotCore wrote:
Oh, and don't know who toolie is, but that's anything but official!
Short of an AMA PR his word is about as official as we're going to get on this subject.
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h&m_cycle 5/13/2016 6:05pm
5/13/2016 6:05pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2016 6:07pm
toolie wrote:
Mike went out side the whoops and passed riders before re entering the track.
ML512 wrote:
Did anyone protest Joey Savatgy for jumping the first triple while the red lights were on during the main?
NotCore wrote:
I did in multiple threads. ; ) Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/09/134607/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I did in multiple threads. ; )

Seriously, don't want him to lose his win but the AMA inconsistency is ridiculous!



Is there someone you can send this Screenshot to? When your paying riders money and the fans are paying
money, every effort should be made to get the calls right...

In Horse racing, no matter how small the race is, the results are not official till 5 minutes after...

So Joey didn't win this race, this was the championship race... Could you see this happening in the Superbowl?

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