"Practice Flagging Status"

[quote="Tcannon521":3t0torwz]I just did a track day at Barber Motorsports Park. With Nesba it was 215 dollars. While I know most MX'ers are cheap asses I can tell you I felt 100% more comfortable riding around out there at 135+ mph knowing flaggers were in ever turn and an ambulance was sitting there ready to take me away if need be.

What would everyone feel is a fair price for a prepped track, flaggers and medical attention on site? I would pay 50 bucks hell maybe even 100 bucks just for the extra saftey. I know if i miss one day of work, I lose a lot more than 100 bucks b/c I landed on someone or someone landed on me.[/quote:3t0torwz]
Man I would never go on a practice track that did not have insurance/flaggers/EMT. At Area 51 in NY they have open practice every Wed night, weather permitting. It is prepped/watered/fully flagged[they also have radios] 2 EMT's and the cost is 20.00. They usually draw 100-150 riders. Splt into 3 class's,,,Minis,,,beg/nov,,,Am Ex,,, once in a while they split up beg/nov because of the amount of riders. They will not put more than 60/65 riders on the track at one time. The lighting system is better than nothing but your hoping the person manning it can see all the blind spots and watch the whole track in a split second. A flagger jumping on the track in front of a downed rider may keep some one from landing on him or be able to push the other riders to the opposite lane. A lot of room for error with just lights on a full blown mx track.

Ur place looks nice. Members only I hear has advantages, but still your missing the point of safety. I dont know you, dont know your med expertise but I know all my local tracks and if I am in bad need of medical assitance can u provide it? I know I would never want to answer that question in court, or the grilling that comes with it. Ride at your own risk is understood. What I dont understand is why not ride at you own risk, but lets try to control the situation by using all available and logical resources. Having dad jump the fence to safe little timmy from his crash is crazy on all ends.

I am CPR certified. I called 911 the one time I had to and the paramedics and full ambulance was here in 5 minutes. The helicopter showed up in 15 and lifted him out . Poor kid had a cracked clavicle.

[quote="Tcannon521":wlkzf71m]Why do we have to be that backwoods though? Hell, I go to a go cart track (amusement park) and they have flaggers.....[/quote:wlkzf71m]

And they charge $8 per person for less than 5 minutes on track.

[quote="Foster576":233vmbvp][quote="Cygnus":233vmbvp]I won't give out all my stats but, I have had 3 ambulances in 18 months . All were 1 rider incedences. only 1 was serious. Do I need flaggers everyday?[/quote:233vmbvp]
According to people here. YES! I really dont think tracks need flaggers for "Open Practice." It is that persons choice to inspect the track and if they dont like that there are no flaggers then dont ride! Its just like people complaining about jumps on tracks. If you dont like the jump, dont jump it. The answer is so simple. Anyone ever heard "RIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK"[/quote:233vmbvp]


Tell that too my buddy... who'd ridden his hometown track COUNTLESS times, hit all the jumps over and over. TOTALLY comfortable on them.

Then one day, out practicing - just freak shit happens... he crashed. He now has a leg that's like 1/2" shorter than the other. At least his gf was there to help out...

My point is - stuff happens regardless if you can "do the jumps" or not... even if you're a seasoned pro, you can still crash and then have someone land on you.

Your explanation above is absolutely ridiculous, stupid, and juvenile.

[quote="SteveS":3v80dtkt][quote="Tcannon521":3v80dtkt]Why do we have to be that backwoods though? Hell, I go to a go cart track (amusement park) and they have flaggers.....[/quote:3v80dtkt]

And they charge $8 per person for less than 5 minutes on track.[/quote:3v80dtkt]

I bet lots of mx riders stand in line and pay for that 5 minutes also. I know I have.

why is there such a gap between road racing and mx? I have never been to a trackday (street) and an ambulance wasn't on site. Also if the ambulance leaves to transport a rider the track is shut down till it gets back unless the track has 2 there. MX about the only time u see an ambulance or flaggers is raceday only. Is mx the last motorsport that has no emt's or flaggers for practice? My suggestion on where to find flaggers, real simple call a temp agency. Train them that morning.

you should get the local sheriff's dept in on it. instead of picking up trash they can flag...with a little supervision. you fuckers gotta think outta the box in this sport.

[quote="teggers":19fqw1t6]I'm trying to point out in this thread that there is a need for an overall track caution during practice when a rider goes down. This CAN reduce the number of flaggers on a large track. If you have no flaggers, it can work as well because the riders will throw an arm up and start the full track caution.

My point is that it will decrease risk at any level of flagging/no flagging if you have a full track caution when a rider falls during practice.

I have seen a second rider get injured while the first downed rider was being attended....not a good situation.

It's just practice.[/quote:19fqw1t6]
This is how most the small indoor places work and its good, however I think often times on a big outdoor track with a crowded practice you would be on full caution the whole session practically with someone dumped in a corner or what not, little boy that cried wolf would be in effect.