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....And I am wondering if "Angels" are supposed to be people that died and have gone to heaven, where did Lucifer come from? And how did he tempt Adam and Eve in the GOE, if they were the first two?
He was put in charge of helping man screw up Gods creation. Since Man needs no help sounds like ole Lucifer has got the easiest job around.
Myths do stupid things like that. Superman, the guy who can't be killed by a nuclear blast, can be humbled by a rock. The Christian all-loving god needed a fall guy for all of the bad stuff in the universe.
Watch the Prophecy series. It explains it all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophecy
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Watch the Prophecy series. It explains it all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophecy[/quote:1axd67d0]
Thanks.
Why would God create perfect humans that revolt? Free will
The Christian all-loving god needed a fall guy for all of the bad stuff in the universe.[/quote:h365yiov]
Is it any wonder that christians love george bush? He did the same shit, and they fell for it. Twice.[/quote:h365yiov]
I did not vote for him once. Just sayin.
Lots of stuff like that. I always thought the Isrealites fought the Canonites, Battle of Jerico, etc. becuase they had invaded their land or something. You know "evil oppressors".
Turns out Isrealites were nomads and God said "I pick you, go take that land away from those folks, I don't like them". "Oh yeah, kill every man, woman and child while you're at it". Kinda seems like the guys God was talking to had a vested interst in getting info from the man.
It's in the Bible, but they kinda left it out in Sunday school and the movies I saw on the subject.
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The Old Testament God was a bad-ass!
Then, about 2000 years ago, this omnipotent, omnipresent God...
...Changed his mind.
Many persons have been taught that angels are the departed dead that once lived on earth. The death of the body is said to release an immortal soul that lives on as an angel in heaven. At the funeral of a young ten-year-old girl a Roman Catholic priest some time ago explained, as reported in the New York Daily Mirror: “God wanted another angel and He took Dorothy. Dorothy had been picked by God to remain with her parents just this length of time. Then he called her to serve Him at this Christmas time.”
Is this true? Are angels persons who once lived on earth? Are they disembodied humans? No, not according to God’s Word the Bible. These inspired writings reveal that long before this earth had been prepared for human habitation Almighty God created spirit sons or angels. This is revealed by His inquiry made long ago of his servant Job, which, according to the Jewish Targum, reads: “Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you do know understanding. When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and all the bands of angels began shouting in applause?”—Job 38:4, 7, 1957 Edition, footnote.
God not only created these spirits long before he did man, but he also made them a higher form of life than human. “Angels,” the Bible says, “are greater in strength and power.” And God’s Word explains that man was made “a little lower than angels.”—2 Pet. 2:11; Heb. 2:6, 7.
Not only were angels made superior to humans, but even among themselves there are various ranks or classifications. First in position is Michael the archangel, whom the Scriptures show is none other than the Word, or Chief Spokesman for God, who became the man Jesus Christ. (Dan. 12:1; John 1:1; Rev. 12:7) Then there are seraphs, whom the prophet Isaiah saw attending Jehovah in a vision of His temple. (Isa. 6:2, 6) Also described in the Scriptures are the cherubs, representations of whom were placed on the ark of the covenant housed in the Most Holy compartment of the wilderness tabernacle and later in the temple built by Solomon. (Ex. 25:18-22; 1 Ki. 8:6, 7; Ps. 99:1) And, finally, there is the great body of angelic messengers.
Why would God create perfect humans that revolt? Free will[/quote:34noywr9]
We're just pawns in a galactic game of chess?[/quote:34noywr9]
More like an ant farm.
Lots of stuff like that. I always thought the Isrealites fought the Canonites, Battle of Jerico, etc. becuase they had invaded their land or something. You know "evil oppressors".
Turns out Isrealites were nomads and God said "I pick you, go take that land away from those folks, I don't like them". "Oh yeah, kill every man, woman and child while you're at it". Kinda seems like the guys God was talking to had a vested interst in getting info from the man.
It's in the Bible, but they kinda left it out in Sunday school and the movies I saw on the subject.[/quote:2pqwek6m]
Only thing I'd really take issue with there is the "I don't like them" part. It was generally more along the lines of, "They are evil," "They worship other gods," etc. when He spoke of the current inhabitants of the Promised Land (all the "ites") More often, though, He referred to them as "your enemies."
The Israelites had originally come from the general area they were being given by God in the Promised Land, but had ended up in Egypt during famine. The people they were driving out had been among them before, or had moved in during the meantime.
The promise to give them the land had been made long, long before.
[quote:2pqwek6m]The LORD our God said to us at Horeb, "You have stayed long enough at this mountain. 7 Break camp and advance into the hill country of the Amorites; go to all the neighboring peoples in the Arabah, in the mountains, in the western foothills, in the Negev and along the coast, to the land of the Canaanites and to Lebanon, as far as the great river, the Euphrates. 8 See, I have given you this land. Go in and take possession of the land that the LORD swore he would give to your fathers—to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—and to their descendants after them."[/quote:2pqwek6m] Deut 1:6
Since God considered the land as belonging to the Israelites from His command, anyone living there, any king established there, would be the enemy of the Israelites.
Why would God create perfect humans that revolt? Free will[/quote:1xx2lutv]
We're just pawns in a galactic game of chess?[/quote:1xx2lutv]
? Im not sure I follow, if we have free will, then we do our own thing, correct? If I said why did angels/humans revolt, because of predestination, wouldnt that make us pawns in his chess game?
Oh no, if thats the case, many will certainly lose faith in god.
Let me try a different tack: Why do you think god created us?[/quote:2q6d3llf]
Wanted to create something in his image
Let me try a different tack: Why do you think god created us?[/quote:11lij4z2]
Wanted to create something in his image[/quote:11lij4z2]
yep,looks can be decieving.our brains are screwed up
god got disgusted with us and said i'm out of here.you can have all the "free will" ya want.........
Pit Row
so now you're a stalker. he tells me what to say and I type it .
and bad at covering your style and tracks
Give it up
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