"AMA Rep On FIM Motocross Commission Was Paid $23,800 By Mot

You mean an AMA guy demanding a back door deal to get races in the US?
I agree!
Enough of that

[size=150:2rvt2liu][b:2rvt2liu]"momma needs shoes"[/b:2rvt2liu][/size:2rvt2liu]


why does somebody pay somebody who did nothing something?

probably because he actually did something to deserve the something?


i know i make it a point to never pay people for nothing!

[quote="500guy":2gle0z3c][quote="flarider":2gle0z3c]You mean an AMA guy demanding a back door deal to get races in the US?
I agree!
Enough of that[/quote:2gle0z3c]

I agree Dave but just like in Prostitution the Payer is just as guilty as the payee.[/quote:2gle0z3c]

yeah but dont both the john and the prostitute get some pleasure? " title="Smile">

[quote="500guy":33xho3f5][quote="flarider":33xho3f5]You mean an AMA guy demanding a back door deal to get races in the US?
I agree!
Enough of that[/quote:33xho3f5]

I agree Dave but just like in Prostitution the Payer is just as guilty as the payee.[/quote:33xho3f5]
So, in your opinion, a victim of extortion is as guilty as the extortionist

Makes perfect sense, Jay

I didn't accuse anyone of anything, only showing that neither of us know the facts but you're quick and ready to place blame.

[quote="flarider":3g96v50e][quote="500guy":3g96v50e][quote="flarider":3g96v50e]You mean an AMA guy demanding a back door deal to get races in the US?
I agree!
Enough of that[/quote:3g96v50e]

I agree Dave but just like in Prostitution the Payer is just as guilty as the payee.[/quote:3g96v50e]
So, in your opinion, a victim of extortion is as guilty as the extortionist

Makes perfect sense, Jay[/quote:3g96v50e]


In a case like Amick, if you think he's practicing extortion, then you go to the head of the AMA about it (or the authorities), otherwise it certainly looks to be an "agreement" (bribe).

I don't argue that, but in that instance it makes both sides culpable and not YS alone, as 500guy wants to work his anti-YS spin.

[quote="flarider":24gd7od3]I don't argue that, but in that instance it makes both sides culpable and not YS alone, as 500guy wants to work his anti-YS spin.[/quote:24gd7od3]


As long as by "sides" you are defining Amick as a person, not as the AMA..........

What and you think that Beasley and all the NPG promotors are doing everything above board
especially in their accounting practices after a race of this magnitude with a heavy dose of cash receipts?

The bottom line anytime there's a deal such as a national etc. where there's a heavy cash
flow there's bound to be shady dealings from all sides.I'm not saying it makes it all
peachy I'm just saying don't be so naive to think that the folks who are crying foul don't
have a little dirt on their hands as well.

Unless you haven't noticed large sums of money tends to bring out the whore in the human
species 9 times out of 10.

[quote="vntgmx":2mnruth5]What and you think that Beasley and all the NPG promotors are doing everything above board
especially in their accounting practices after a race of this magnitude with a heavy dose of cash receipts?

The bottom line anytime there's a deal such as a national etc. where there's a heavy cash
flow there's bound to be shady dealings from all sides.I'm not saying it makes it all
peachy I'm just saying don't be so naive to think that the folks who are crying foul don't
have a little dirt on their hands as well.

Unless you haven't noticed large sums of money tends to bring out the whore in the human
species 9 times out of 10.[/quote:2mnruth5]


When shady deals are exposed they shouldn't be overlooked because there "might" be other shady deals going on.....

[quote="APLMAN":3k8l0ay8][quote="flarider":3k8l0ay8]I don't argue that, but in that instance it makes both sides culpable and not YS alone, as 500guy wants to work his anti-YS spin.[/quote:3k8l0ay8]


As long as by "sides" you are defining Amick as a person, not as the AMA..........[/quote:3k8l0ay8]
Agreed

Geez,

Just a little conflict of interest huh?


"According to FIM sources, in addition to representing the AMA on the FIM Motocross Commission, Amick personally obtained the rights to any FIM World Championship Motocross or Motocross de Nations event on U.S. soil, as a subcontractor to Youthstream, the Italian company that has launched a bid to take over AMA Motocross.

To hold the 2007 Motocross de Nations, the race promoter was required to pay Amick a fee of $1 per ticket sold, which came to about $23,800.

Also after his full-time AMA employment ended, Amick was being paid a quarterly fee by the AMA to represent it in matters concerned with FIM Speedway."


I wonder how this Became public.

[quote="APLMAN":2oesju7m][quote="vntgmx":2oesju7m]What and you think that Beasley and all the NPG promotors are doing everything above board
especially in their accounting practices after a race of this magnitude with a heavy dose of cash receipts?

The bottom line anytime there's a deal such as a national etc. where there's a heavy cash
flow there's bound to be shady dealings from all sides.I'm not saying it makes it all
peachy I'm just saying don't be so naive to think that the folks who are crying foul don't
have a little dirt on their hands as well.

Unless you haven't noticed large sums of money tends to bring out the whore in the human
species 9 times out of 10.[/quote:2oesju7m]


When shady deals are exposed they shouldn't be overlooked because there "might" be other shady deals going on.....[/quote:2oesju7m]

Oh ok thanks....

So the guy quits the AMA, but remains the AMA rep to the FIM. Then he "personally" obtains the right to any FIM race on U.S. soil as a subcontractor for Youthstream? ?????
This is hard to follow. But a rep from one sanctioning body, to another sanctioning body, sets himself up as a subcontractor to a race promoter that deals with that sanctioning body. I mean, is this as Mickey Mouse as it appears?

[quote:3ou8x4rh]I wonder how this Became public.[/quote:3ou8x4rh]


ROb DIngman is why.

And you know what ANYONE who was on the board of directors with AMA at the time this agreement was in play needs to go today! This is corporate OR Memebership side. Conflict of interest such as this simply can not be tolerated. ALL the staff is gone who knew about this, and so should the board who stayed dormat and let it happen.
I have not been real comfortable with some of the things that has gone on lately but if this is the result, exsposing this kind of crap, then I believe it's a great thing. The only way Ama cleans up is for this stuff to go public....................

wow. extortion maybe not, but for dam sure not appropriate for an AMA official who likely has a contract to have to be bought out of. for sure we don't need the Youthstream types who would enter in a deal like this doing anything here in the US.

[quote="wardy":1dauoi45][quote:1dauoi45]I wonder how this Became public.[/quote:1dauoi45]


ROb DIngman is why.

And you know what ANYONE who was on the board of directors with AMA at the time this agreement was in play needs to go today! This is corporate OR Memebership side. Conflict of interest such as this simply can not be tolerated. ALL the staff is gone who knew about this, and so should the board who stayed dormat and let it happen.
I have not been real comfortable with some of the things that has gone on lately but if this is the result, exsposing this kind of crap, then I believe it's a great thing. The only way Ama cleans up is for this stuff to go public....................

wow. extortion maybe not, but for dam sure not appropriate for an AMA official who likely has a contract to have to be bought out of. for sure we don't need the Youthstream types who would enter in a deal like this doing anything here in the US.[/quote:1dauoi45]


Anyone on the board of directors who actually KNEW about it, I agree......

[quote:145zclg7] I mean, is this as Mickey Mouse as it appears?[/quote:145zclg7]


looks like to me that Mickey is blushing. He and others got caught. Wonder what it takes to buy out ammuck out of this contract now?

[quote="wardy":13nysq8w][quote:13nysq8w] I mean, is this as Mickey Mouse as it appears?[/quote:13nysq8w]


looks like to me that Mickey is blushing. He and others got caught. Wonder what it takes to buy out ammuck out of this contract now?[/quote:13nysq8w]


Hopefully it only costs an indictment for fraud....!

$23,800 is going to look like chump change by the time this is done. And I am guessing there may have been more than 23,800 people there??????

so the last time this happened in road racing what was the membership fee, then it went to 39.00 bucs, wonder does it hit 50?

[quote="chaind":2kenjvy6] And I am guessing there may have been more than 23,800 people there??????[/quote:2kenjvy6]

What is Amick going to do...Sue Beasley???????

What I am wondering is if it will come out that this kind of crap was the whole reason there was the comp park Moto Des nations Fiasco........

[quote="JustMX":tzwrqg77][quote="chaind":tzwrqg77] And I am guessing there may have been more than 23,800 people there??????[/quote:tzwrqg77]

What is Amick going to do...Sue Beasley???????

What I am wondering is if it will come out that this kind of crap was the whole reason there was the comp park Moto Des nations Fiasco........[/quote:tzwrqg77]


Most probably.

I have to say that I thought Dingman might have been cleaning house simply for the sake of cleaning house, but if this is the type of stuff he has been running into and getting rid of, then more power to him.

[quote="APLMAN":159ocbnl]
I have to say that I thought Dingman might have been cleaning house simply for the sake of cleaning house, but if this is the type of stuff he has been running into and getting rid of, then more power to him.[/quote:159ocbnl]

X2

I though Dingman just wanted his friends next to him I am glad I kept my mouth shut and never said that now.

Is it odd to anyone else that Amick would be so bold to call out the current AMA management when it appears he had a few skeleton's in the closet?

[quote="JustMX":2dj975uy][quote="APLMAN":2dj975uy]
I have to say that I thought Dingman might have been cleaning house simply for the sake of cleaning house, but if this is the type of stuff he has been running into and getting rid of, then more power to him.[/quote:2dj975uy]

X2[/quote:2dj975uy]

This might just get me to join the AMA again after 20+ years of swearing not to give the AMA another dime.

"might" being the key word.

[quote="rocrac":1ecsmikh]Is it odd to anyone else that Amick would be so bold to call out the current AMA management when it appears he had a few skeleton's in the closet?[/quote:1ecsmikh]
"If I'm gonna go down, I'm taking everyone with me"

My guess is he had a heads up on this article, especially considering Ulrich knows all the AMA dirt and shit, and that prompted his departure.

[quote="flarider":360pfu50][quote="rocrac":360pfu50]Is it odd to anyone else that Amick would be so bold to call out the current AMA management when it appears he had a few skeleton's in the closet?[/quote:360pfu50]
"If I'm gonna go down, I'm taking everyone with me"

My guess is he had a heads up on this article, especially considering Ulrich knows all the AMA dirt and shit, and that prompted his departure.[/quote:360pfu50]


Yep, something like that. Try to take the focus off of him misdoings......

Sounds like someone needs to kick Amick in the nuts a time or two.